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Hey I havent used these forums recently I made a bit of a hash of a POC in february failed it was probably a bit under prepared as well as feeling a bit inferior to the other guys on my course all being graduates with me still in college etc and consequentially VW'ed on the endurance course after feeling becoming an Officer was probably not the life for me. Anyway after a bit of time off considering whether the marines is really my bag I have decided it is still something I want to do more than anything but I don't think I am not yet mature enough to become an Officer and my ACLO suggested non commissioned entry. This I feel is more for me but I have got a few questions I wouldn't mind being answered.

Firstly how is the PRMC run nowadays? I have read a few guides that are stickied at the top but I am not sure how upto date these are? I am confident I can pass the RMFA with a good score I have also hacked bottom field once on POC and I feel mentally and physically I'm in much better shape now than I was then.

My second question is IF I manage to get through the 32 weeks how much say would I have in where I go? I know you will be put where the corps needs you but say alot of lads want to be getting into the Units going to the Ghan etc so if i expressed interest in say FPGRM or Logs would it be likely thats where you'd be posted because of the lack of people wanting to go there?

Sorry for the length of the post I have searched for answers to these but many of the answers are old and possibly out of date.

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Post by Shrek The Royal »

Drafty will always try and give you your prefernce draft, if he carnt give you that you should get your second choice. Refrence the PRMC i carnt advise you its been a while since i did mine.
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ok thanks very much mate
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Regarding the PRMC and how it is run these days, I believe the only thing that keeps changing is the 3 mile run. I have just had my PRMC briefing last week and my Chief PO said that they are doing it 1.5 Mile squaded run and then best effort back. Everything else is the same, 3 miler on the first morning, RMFA in the afternoon. Day two is bottom field in the morning and then the circuits in the afternoon. The circuits do seem to change so I can not say what they will be. They also throw in a bit of drill and a lecture or two somewhere along the line.
Hope this helps, and good luck. When are you looking to do your PRMC?
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Post by Artist »

A refreshing post from a person with basic open honesty. Good on you jay999.

Regardless of how old you are take your time before applying for a place on a PRMC. Ensure that you are up to the required standard in both yours and the Corps eyes. The first is the hardest by the way. Because you will always have doubts.

As it was when I joined the Corp we did not do a PRMC but thats because I'm an owd Fart. These days far to many people come on this website full of death and glory telling us all just what they are going to do once they earn that green lid. Most however once they have been to CTCRM to do the PRMC for some reason never come back.

To sum up, do it when your think your are ready and not before. Ignore the Eeijuts who tell you to Go for it! most of them ain't been there and will never be there truth be told. As it is there are far to many people coming on this site with advice who will never decamp from the train at Lympstone Commando when it comes to the big day (there wern't even a station at CTC when I joined up, in some cases there wern't even a rail system when some of the really owd buggers joined up, just a dip in the road where they fell off the horse drawn coach, OK there Chas!?!?!? :D ).

Do it when your ready and not before Lad.

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Sound advice again thanks. I am going down to the local AFCO on wednesday for a bit of an informal chat i suppose. I thought I'd ask questions like this here as I'll get honest answers. As you have said Artist I am going to think about things make sure I'm ready and give PRMC a crack, I don't want to mess things up like i feel i did on poc. thanks again
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jay999

It is not uncommon for guys to be offered a Corp commision if they can prove themselves in recruit training to be the Dogs Bollox when it comes to leadership and soldiering.

So think on that lad. Some of the best officers I knew in the Corp came up from the ranks. I was never offered the chance but two of my fellow nods were. One did it and served for nine years, the other refused and left under a cloud after just 18 months due to his own stupidity.

I managed to reach SNCO status after 16 years mainly because at long last I sussed out that SNCO's got perks that Marines never got. For my first six years I was as happy as a pig in shit to be a bog standard Bootneck until I realised that stripes also give you more dosh in your pocket come the end of the month plus you had a nicer time and a nicer way of life.

One of my Oppos left as a full Colonel RM after 30 odd years service. We are still in comms and when we meet up along with all the other Eeijuts once every few years we all respect Pat for what he achieved within our Family. Mind you he's still crap at buying a round. Tight arsed gett that he is!

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I was thinking about corps commission as a route to take if i made it into the corps non commissioned. I guess the only way to find out is to give it a crack it is what i want to do its just a matter of getting myself ready i guess
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You've got it in a nutshell Jay.

Promotion is not automatic you have to prove yourself and apply to be a candidate. If you don't apply you will not get promoted in other words.

As I said I could not be bothered to apply to be a candidate until I'd done six years. I was para trained, sniper trained and loved what I did bigtime. Then dosh (money) came to the fore because I was married and was a rather keen cross country skier.

I did my JCC (Cpl's course) then my SCC (Sgt's Course) and then my ACC (Warrant Officers course) in the space of 12 years (the last course required you to have at least four O'levels/GCSE's (never got my Warrant because of deadmens shoes).

In hindsight I should have gone for it ASAP but thats life is it not? As I've said to you. Join up when your ready and ignore the fools who tell you to go for broke on this website. In the end there is only one person who will know deep down when you are ready to do it and that person is you.

If you want anymore advice then talk to the likes of Shrek the Royal who is a serving bloke with time under his belt (He don't like it mentioned but he is a WO2) or Owd getts like me, Owdun, Harry hackedoff, JR, Sticky Blue (a bandy but still a Bootneck regardless of what people say about the bandservice). PMA Jay999!

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Post by alee9 »

Good post guys! Like Artist said, it's nice to read something genuin for once. I was in a similar position to you jay999 and it has taken me about a year to sort out my thoughts and now I have my PRMC bokked for next month. I would also love to gain a commission but figured that if I did have the attributes for an officer, then they would hopefully pick up on that (if I out myself out there as Artist states).
Best of luck to you though jay999 and let us know how everything goes.
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Thanks mate best of luck to you on your prmc. Hope it all goes as planned
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Jay im going to sort of back up what artist has said when your in nod training if you show good leader ship skills they will be noticed as your training team are constantly watching you. afetr week 15 the lads who show leadership skills will be given section tapes ie, you will be in charge of your section after week 26 if you still have your section tape and still show good leader ship skills you will be given a diamond same as section tape in a way you will be in charge of your section this can lead on to becoming a kings badgeman which is a way for corps commission if you pass out as a diamond or kings badgeman you get a pay rise when you pass out and first choice of unit which you want to go to if i remember correctly and you wear the badge for kingsbadge man on your uniform on your left arm for the rest of your career.

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Cheers for the replies lads. I had a careers interview today I have all the application forms however the CPO said to me that straight out of training you can only go to 40,42 or 45 and that CDOLOGS and FPGRM you would not go to until after a few months. It doesn't really matter but I just want to know whether her info was out of date or if i was misinformed? Cheers anyway guys
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When I was in RT, we watched a pass out and they said where everone was going. Three of the guys there were off to FPG at Faslane and this was only July last year, so I would presume this still stands.
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ok thanks guys, i guess it doesnt really make a difference as there is a big 32week hurdle between now n getting drafted but i guess it helps to know
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