Steve Irwin "THE CROCODILE HUNTER"

[ali_hire]

I do agree with the fact that he took risks and paid the price. But your tact is remarkably poor.

Ayrton Senna took risks and was killed, did he deserve to die?

I'm not a massive fan of Steve Irwin by any means, but I am a massive fan of respect for those who deserve it. You appear to be showing none.

[Brian-]

He was a decent bloke, anyone could see that. He definitely didn't 'derserve' to die.

[Brian-]

And again: He got what he DESERVED? Who the hell deserves to DIE for doing what he was doing?
Yes, If they die taking unnessesary risk without though of consequence to himself or his family.

Isn't wanting to be a Marine an unnecessary risk since you don't have to do it?

[themattmeister]

That last picture is a fake though isn't it?

[Daka]

He died after getting far too close to a predator and putting himself in harms way for no other reason than getting a good shot. "Stingrays only sting in defence, they're not aggressive animals so the animal must have felt threatened. It didn't sting out of aggression, it stung out of fear," BBC

In your own quote you told us that stingrays only sting in self defence, which doesn't make it a predator at all actually.

So your comment about fannying around with predators was wrong and cold hearted

[Oz]

Intresting posts. On the news his family has just agreed to hand over the footage of him being killed so we can make up our own minds.

As a dive instructor ive dived with some really massive rays including a number of manta rays and when people say thats its rare to be attacked thats an understatement, these things when they want to can move quite quickly once approched but diving onto them from a boat or scaring can set them off into aggresive behavior.

I dont really know what to say about the whole issue of dicing with death but if you asked the bloke he would probably say that it comes with the job and all Australians and people thats seen his programs will admit that he was a straight talker and quite a character that will be missed not just in Oz but all over the world. Thanks for the good times mate

Oz

[Spooky]

It seems that a few of you are big Irwin fans but if you take a step back and cool off you will see where I am coming from, Im surprised that so many are defending him.

Define unnecessary risk.
The answers in the question.

No, its not - you need to define unnecessary. Between the good coming from his actions many would deem the risks he took necessary. Like how joining the forces risk is subjective.

If not, then by your logic extreme sports fans all deserve to die for taking unnecessarry risks.



He was not a photographer. Think about it.
No but the cameraman is. You think about it.

You think he was playing it up for the camera? Tell me how else he was to demonstrate the animals he worked and what they could do? That was the whole point of his act. You dont get it.

Yes, If they die taking unnessesary risk without though of consequence to himself or his family.

Now this is lovely - you are saying someone DESERVES TO DIE for taking a risk that you think is unnecessary.

Pretty damned stupid given that on the one hand your saying that they are not thinking of the consequences on them or their familiy. What about the effect it has on people that a clown like you says their friend/loved one deserves to die for taking a risk?

Not thought this through quite well have you.



Call me cold hearted if you wish, I think that im taking an objective stance, if you play with fire you will get burned.

Your not cold hearted, your an idiot.

I do feel sorry for his wife and kids, just not for him

No, why would you, after all you think he deserved death.

So for taking risks, you essentially wish a death sentence on him. Says it all huh?

Ive taken risks. Do very often. I suppose I deserve to die for that? Honestly I'd suggest you dump your application; your about to take all sorts of risks if you get into RT, for all sorts of reasons. It really won't go down well when you tell your muckers one of them deserves to die for doing a stunt.

[digitalfreefall]

When did I say that I tought he deserved to die ?
I said he deserved what he got.

"Honestly I'd suggest you dump your application."
What would you know Spooky your just another wannabee.

I notice you guys never start topics on serviceman that have died but your getting your nickers in a twist over a TV star.
Do me a favour and go dry your eyes elsewhere, this is supposed to be a Military forum.

And for you information im far from cold hearted, were just from different mindsets.

"It really won't go down well when you tell your muckers one of them deserves to die for doing a stunt."
There you go again trying to compare black and white.

If you want to keep this going then send a PM otherwise get off your moral high horse and go do something more constructive.

[Brian-]

When did I say that I tought he deserved to die ?
I said he deserved what he got.

Well he died, that's what he got...

[ali_hire]

What would you know Spooky your just another wannabee.

Oh dear.

[xcj]

Its sad steve died, he did a great job and made his wildlife programmes unique.


I think we're forgetting something here. Thousands of people are stung by stingrays every year, Steve is only the second person recorded to have died as a result of a sting in Austrailia. This incident could and should have been just another minor injury added to his (im sure) long enough list as a result of attacks by animals. This of course if it wasn't for such bad luck.

The stingrays barb punctured a hole in his heart (just about the only way a stingray can actually kill you) and he suffered a cardiac arrest there and then whilst still in the water. Its was a very unfortunate accident.

In a way he did kind of get his wish though - he always said he wanted to die whilst working with animals and had even instructed his film crews to keep filming if he was ever attacked by a croc or shark etc.

Its a bit ironic that man who wrestled crocodiles, snakes and sharks was killed by a seemingly harmless enough fish.

[lodgi]

Steve Irwin was a top bloke. Sad day.

[themattmeister]

In a way he did kind of get his wish though - he always said he wanted to die whilst working with animals and had even instructed his film crews to keep filming if he was ever attacked by a croc or shark etc.

Apparently they will be showing it on TV.

[Jimmy]

That last picture is a fake though isn't it?

Yeah, Steve was mental, but not so mental he'd go into the sea with his boots on

RIP

[Spooky]

When did I say that I tought he deserved to die ?
I said he deserved what he got.

He got death. Ergo - logically, your saying he deserved to die. How can you not grasp that?

"Honestly I'd suggest you dump your application."
What would you know Spooky your just another wannabee.

A hell of a lot more than you, clearly + Ive a beret and belt I earned. What do you have? Oh, a PRMC. Come back to me when you've grown up.

Seriously though - please do explain where you got the notion I am a wannabee..? Ive never run around a forum honking off about what I am gonna/want to become. Hell - Ive never even told most people what I HAVE done!

I notice you guys never start topics on serviceman that have died but your getting your nickers in a twist over a TV star.

No ones getting their knickers in a twist over a TV star - we're getting our knickers in a twist over yet another clown with no tact, no sence of logic and no respect, among others. Not only that but the guy was not just a TV star. Your doing well at demonstrating exactly what you think you know of Steve Irwin.

Do me a favour and go dry your eyes elsewhere, this is supposed to be a Military forum.

True - so why did you feel inclined to reply to this topic then, and did you not grasp the point of 'general discussion' ? See, theres another thing I've taught someone.

And for you information im far from cold hearted, were just from different mindsets.

You directly alluded to him deserving to die. That has a big fat 0 to do with mindset.

"It really won't go down well when you tell your muckers one of them deserves to die for doing a stunt."

There you go again trying to compare black and white.

You said it yourself. He took unnecessary risks - and that in itself was subjective enough. Well, newsflash - most people do. Some more than others. Many in the forces.

You never answered my question either: I've taken risks some would say were unneccesary. Do you think I deserve to die?

If you want to keep this going then send a PM otherwise get off your moral high horse and go do something more constructive.

I think [trying to] educating someone like you is constructive, and not only that I get a laugh at watching you bury yourself where you can't keep up with the stuff you've said and have the misguided stones to think I'm a wannabee.

By the way - keeping my analitical hat on for a moment, you've pretty much just said everyone who disagress with your idiotic opinion is on a moral high horse. *Maybe* Just maybe, we're not on high horses at all; your just face down in the mud.