PRMC 5th Sept.

[darrenrugby18]

Yeh i guess mental attitude towards it will help the pain and maybe the recovery....but i used to use it for ju-jitsu after a session with alot of blocking with the forearms....they used to get battered to sh#t out of sheer pounding. I had a friend there who used to bring tiger balm with him and apply it straight after, and i used it a couple of time and for some reason you recover alot quicker, and there's alot less bruising

[ali_hire]

all in all though i think that it doesn't help at all, it just changes your mind set, so rather then the pain of the muscle in your shin being better, its more the less the tiger balm burning your skin. its all mental LOL

So if punch myself in the face a couple of times it'll make me forget about my injury!?! Like it!

It'll be a lot cheaper than Tiger Balm as well!

[Greg The Great]

Or just chop your leg off at the knee, that'll do the trick and you won't have any costly bills for Tiger Balm.

[darrenrugby18]

Haha! it's called the 'gateway' theory i believe, if you have pain in your leg say, hit your hand against the wall and the pain will feel less because your body is dealin with 2 sources of pain........just a suggestion

[Hankins]

or you could just not be a pussy about it and deal with the pain, when we were doing our gym test 1 in my prmc, i had to do the situps with a cramp in my thigh and calf, it was terrible pain, but i used it to drive myself further and before i knew it i pumped out 103 situps

[darrenrugby18]

Should of just punched yourself in the face would of sorted it a treat haha, then you might of cracked out 110 sit-ups haha only kiddin mate

[ali_hire]

or you could just not be a pussy about it and deal with the pain, when we were doing our gym test 1 in my prmc, i had to do the situps with a cramp in my thigh and calf, it was terrible pain, but i used it to drive myself further and before i knew it i pumped out 103 situps

I hear what you are saying. But the pain of being exhausted (such as cramp) and the pain of injury are completely different (I'm not trying to say that either one is more or less painful by the way).

Working through the pain of an injury is very stupid and should not be advised to anyone, you run the risk of further injuring yourself or, worse, permanently injuring yourself.

Why do you think the first thing a doctor or physio tells you to do when you pick up an injury is rest?!!

[Hankins]

or you could just not be a pussy about it and deal with the pain, when we were doing our gym test 1 in my prmc, i had to do the situps with a cramp in my thigh and calf, it was terrible pain, but i used it to drive myself further and before i knew it i pumped out 103 situps

I hear what you are saying. But the pain of being exhausted (such as cramp) and the pain of injury are completely different (I'm not trying to say that either one is more or less painful by the way).

Working through the pain of an injury is very stupid and should not be advised to anyone, you run the risk of further injuring yourself or, worse, permanently injuring yourself.

Why do you think the first thing a doctor or physio tells you to do when you pick up an injury is rest?!!

its most likely because a doctor is a wuss, and they think rest fixes everything, sometimes just maintaining what you're doing is better, the problem is that the more time you take off in training the more you lose, so in short you basically have to find ways around the pain, to keep going, if it hurts to run on one side make soft steps with it rather then pounding it.

[Brian-]

its most likely because a doctor is a wuss, and they think rest fixes everything

Pfft, medical degrees, waste of time...

[themattmeister]

Working through injury is not a good idea, pain is there for a reason, that reason being your body telling you to stop.

If I remember correctly DWW problems were a result of him trying to do a POC with shin splints.

When I first had a shin splint problem aswell I thought a what the hell I can deal with the pain, but shock horror! after a while I just broke down in training and was out the game for ages.

But maybe I'm just too much of a pussy.

[Greg The Great]

its most likely because a doctor is a wuss, and they think rest fixes everything, sometimes just maintaining what you're doing is better, the problem is that the more time you take off in training the more you lose, so in short you basically have to find ways around the pain, to keep going, if it hurts to run on one side make soft steps with it rather then pounding it.

Have you been talking to Felias?

Hankins think before you post stuff like this.

[Hankins]

no i haven't been talking to him about this im just saying there is ways about working around injuries, i for one don't like being stopped and haven't had anything serious happen yet, maybe when i do ill approach injuries in a different way. I've played in hockey games where ive broken my wrist, cracked bones in the foot. Its not stupid, its commitment, if you're really committed you'll put an injury to the side and continue to fight until you can't anymore. But saying that its got to be a calculated risk that you take, if its going to screw you up more then maybe you should just sit it out, but as i said im not that type.

[Greg The Great]

Well good luck to you and I hope you never get an injury where you'll have to stop but my guess is that sooner or later you will.

Regards,
Greg.

[Spence]

Hankins, please think about what you are saying. If something hurts, STOP. The human body is very good at recognising when there is something wrong. Aches and pains from vigorous exercise (DOMS) are a natural occurrence and are a sign of fibre fatigue, waste product build up and microtears in the muscles (which are pivotal to hypertrophy). However, sharp pains, or even just pains that aren’t normal (after a while you will be able to distinguish between "good" pain and "bad" pain) need to be seen to by a professional, where the first course of action would be to rest. This prevents you from continuing to injure the area as well as giving the body a chance to attempt recovery. Combine this rest with the appropriate use of temperature changes (hot and cold) and this is often enough to make a full recovery. More complicated injuries will require a period of re-habilitation so as to strengthen any damaged "parts". For those of you that can foresee potential problems (such as bad lower backs through endless sit-ups, leading to muscle imbalances), pre-habilitation could be considered to prevent injuries occurring.

Hankins, your commitment to your sport is refreshing, however, as a coach, if one of my players carried on playing through injury I would not be happy at all because the rest and rehabilitation period following the injury would be significantly longer and could lead to problems later in life.

British Forces (and moreover Royal Marines) are traditionally thought of to be of higher intelligence, and for the most part I have seen that traditional view to hold some truth, however continuing through injury is not a sign of a person with higher intelligence.

Spence

[speedfreak]

its most likely because a doctor is a wuss, and they think rest fixes everything, sometimes just maintaining what you're doing is better, the problem is that the more time you take off in training the more you lose, so in short you basically have to find ways around the pain, to keep going, if it hurts to run on one side make soft steps with it rather then pounding it.

Have you been talking to Felias?

Hankins think before you post stuff like this.

Where is Felias these days anyway ? Didn't he start with 923 ? He still in training ?

Hankins you should know better my friend.