*Important* Warming up

[Ghostrider]

I never really thought about this until our PTI said to us.

It is more important to warm up in warmer weather than in cold....

When your warm the blood leaves the muscles and goes towards the surface to loose some heat through the skin. Therefore warming up is more important to get the blood back into the muscles. Its not a matter of it can help to reduce injuries. It does

[SO19]

Thanks Ghostrider, I did not know that.

[Spooky]

I never really thought about this until our PTI said to us.

It is more important to warm up in warmer weather than in cold....

When your warm the blood leaves the muscles and goes towards the surface to loose some heat through the skin. Therefore warming up is more important to get the blood back into the muscles. Its not a matter of it can help to reduce injuries. It does

Erm... I'm not sure about that. Bearing in mind a warm up actually makes you warmer, logically that means more blood to the periphery?

I dont know about you like, but I go REDDER when exercising.

All a warm up does is gently get things flowing, loosen up joints, gets the tendons and other such jiggery pokery ready for exercise, kickstarting the metabolism and so bettering your performance and making the transition from sitting down picking your nose to hoofing it about at faster than fast speeds more tolerable and less of a shock to the system.

Unless someone better qualified that I cares to correct me, humbley Im going to suggest your PTI is pulling your plonker.

Like how they all say that stretch where you cross one foot over the other and touch your toes is not bad for the knees, even though the front one is forcing the rear one backwards, against the posterior accruciate ligament into a hyperextension...

[Ghostrider]

It is important to warm up and stretch on a warm day. Given his position i would believe him more so than anyone. If he didnt know his stuff the core wouldnt have him training civvies to be one of the best trained soldiers in the world. Generally speaking if you have an attitude like that you wont get far in the core. They are trained ranks at the end of the day and if they say to do something you bloody well do it.

[ali_hire]

Can't say I've ever heard anything about whether warming up being more important in certain climates. As, Ghostrider said, he is a RM PTI, I'm not, so I would take his advice on board.
As far as I am aware it is vitally important to do a proper warm up and stretch before you do any sort of physical activity. Got to raise the body temperature by 1 degree before you stretch as well!

[Spooky]

It is important to warm up and stretch on a warm day.

Where did I say it was not?

Given his position i would believe him more so than anyone.

Even a sports scientist? Im not one, but I know many civvy PT's and two of them have degrees in such diciplines, when I can get a hold of one I shall put the point this PTI raises to one.

If he didnt know his stuff the core wouldnt have him training civvies to be one of the best trained soldiers in the world.

I did not say he did not know his stuff. However I do know that; like said PTI's do have people doing some things (like that knee busting stretch) that are a bit silly.

Generally speaking if you have an attitude like that you wont get far in the core.

My attitude to not swallow whole what I'm told has gotten me far in life, and I'm not in the corps.

They are trained ranks at the end of the day and if they say to do something you bloody well do it.

That is true, sucks to be you right now.

My bits in red.

Reality check matey, a lot of thinking in the military is years behind that of their relative sciences. And I've heard PTI's (and other instructors for that matter) rattling on about things I in my probably better than average knowledge of at least physical training; know is wrong.

Not only that your attitude could use a little realignment - your not even in RT yet - so don't presume to tell me anything about my attitude and how it will effect me in something you have not even scratched the surface of, when you know NOTHING about me.


(Edits for p**s poor spelling)

[fubar84]

I wouldn't know one way or the other about the hot or cold warm-up thing, but as far as being a font of all knowledge beacuse you're a Royal PTI doesn't really ring true. After all your wrists aren't supposed to be a weight bearing joint yet the Corps loves to dish out press-ups, which in the Royal marine method of doing them, exerts great amounts of weight on your wrists at their most extreme range of movement. The physical equivalent of opening a car door to it's fullest and then swinging off of it...

Just something to think about, if you're planning on taking everything as gospel.

[Mike The Sceptic]

What's the point in argueing about it?

It's not like it's his personal opinion. It was information passed on by a professional who's job it is to train recruits to a level of fitness ready for military service.

In my opinion, just do a decent f-ing warm up regardless of the weather. How can you go wrong then?

[jarhead]

In my opinion, just do a decent f-ing warm up regardless of the weather. How can you go wrong then?

you hit nail on head mate.

but remember the warm DOWN as well this should take longer than warm-up and hold for at least 30 secs or you will et musel cramp like i did after a cycle.

[TheWedge]

It annoys me when stupid arguents start on this site. I reckon thats why lots of good members have left over the past 3 months. If you see flame bait then just leave it, do not bite.

[rc]

It annoys me when stupid arguents start on this site. I reckon thats why lots of good members have left over the past 3 months. If you see flame bait then just leave it, do not bite.

Personally I think if you disagree with a post you should voice your opinions.

Rich.

[themattmeister]

Personally I think if you disagree with a post you should voice your opinion

No you shouldn't.

Sorry couldn't help it.

[Spooky]

Everyones got good points even if they do clash.

Me? Im pretty hard headed, and dont take being told by people who have passed a PRMC and nothing more to just shut up and get on with it.

Thats exactly the attitude prevailing around here: people making presumptions about others, dismissing others point of view, and firing attitudes about when someone raises a question about what they've said.

Ghostrider however has made amends, and I take my not-green hat off to him for it.

Everyone though needs to remember people come here for advice and to share information - excellent and its to be applauded, but EXPECT that information to be vetted and possibly contradicted rightly or wrongly by anyone, out their experience or because they've just swallowed without a thought what someones said.

Just because DS tell you stuff, and you have to obey it, does not mean you have to agree with it or not question it yourself. Thats one of the differences between a sheep and a leader, thinking for yourself.

Sure you can never win in RT, but out of it you can.

[mfat_man]

Ghostrider

Point taken but why get upset about it... I 've done various Army and civvie training and this has never been mentioned, of course the importance of warming up/down has always been stressed

[Ghostrider]

Yeah i get where Spooky is coming from and he is probably right. I just see it as the training team having done what im about to do as being right about everything. I just saw red when spooky posted his first message. He is right is saying most of us dont know each others background and also right in saying they aint always right. Taken on board and hopefully wont make the same mistake again.