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And click on 'P Company'.
The video that everyone keeps going on about. 50mins long. Enjoy.
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The P Company Video
Well, they already have a professional army so I suppose the answer would be yes, they would volunteer and do.
Bit of a catch-twenty-two situation really. On the one hand, you get conscripted and get the shit beaten out of you and thiers a chance you will go to Chechnya to get your head sawn off, or volunteer and get the shit kicked out of you and face a greater chance of getting sent to Chechya to get your head sawn off.
Bit of a shit situation if you are poor or unemployed, which isnt exactly uncommon in 'the Motherland' today.
Bit of a catch-twenty-two situation really. On the one hand, you get conscripted and get the shit beaten out of you and thiers a chance you will go to Chechnya to get your head sawn off, or volunteer and get the shit kicked out of you and face a greater chance of getting sent to Chechya to get your head sawn off.
Bit of a shit situation if you are poor or unemployed, which isnt exactly uncommon in 'the Motherland' today.
You're right, creating a small, mobile and well-trained army has been on the cards within Russia since the mid 1990's, and while there are several professional unit's who do contract volunteers, the total transition to a compact and fully professional Army as set out in the military reforms will be a gradual struggle.
As far as I am aware they've had many problems thus far, wages being one of them. Will they be able to maintain a steady stream of contracts is the question.
I suppose you will always have willing participants if the conditions are right, though that doesnt neccessarly guarantee the right soldier.
As far as I am aware they've had many problems thus far, wages being one of them. Will they be able to maintain a steady stream of contracts is the question.
I suppose you will always have willing participants if the conditions are right, though that doesnt neccessarly guarantee the right soldier.
[i]‘We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat’ - Queen Victoria, 1899[/i]
While on the subject of Russia, there was an article in Newsweek about Russias new nuclear weapon systems (a cross between a ICBM and a cruise missile apparantly).
Anyway, it argued that Putin plans to revive a strong sense of national identity through a revamped nuclear program, but by doing so the conventional forces will suffer from diverted funds. As a result, much needed improvement for the forces will not take place - and in doing so, Russia's armed forces will actually grow weaker in places like Chechnya where they are alread struggling to fight guerrilla warfare.
Which basically means, the Russians and thier Chechnyan allies may get increasingly desperate in Chechnya, hence exponential acts of inhumanity committed by all sides.
The crimes committed by both sides in Chechnya are appalling - the situation makes 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' look like a day out in the park. To put it in to perspective, the groups centred around Abu Musab al Zawqawi (al Qaeda in Iraq/Tawhid Jihad) take thier inspiration from the Chechnyans and many are believed to have experience fighting the Russians in Chechnya and Afghanistan.
So, Russia may get weaker in Chechnya (and shift thier responsibilities to thier local allies) and Chechyan foreign fighters have been leaving for Iraq - the defence of Arab soil is more important than the Russian Republics you see. Considering the brutality of Russias allies, crimes may rise but foreign coverage may dwindle to even less as focus will continue to remain on the battlefields of the United States - the entire Middle East by current events.
The Middle East may be subject to limited 'democratic reform' (basically just handing over rule from one bunch of corrupt millionaire families/dictators to 'democratically elected' corrupt millionaires from the same family or political party) but the Russian federation is going to be one to watch.
Thats what I think anyway Could be wrong, could be right. I reckon I should just shut it, fuk ov and go to bed.
Anyway, it argued that Putin plans to revive a strong sense of national identity through a revamped nuclear program, but by doing so the conventional forces will suffer from diverted funds. As a result, much needed improvement for the forces will not take place - and in doing so, Russia's armed forces will actually grow weaker in places like Chechnya where they are alread struggling to fight guerrilla warfare.
Which basically means, the Russians and thier Chechnyan allies may get increasingly desperate in Chechnya, hence exponential acts of inhumanity committed by all sides.
The crimes committed by both sides in Chechnya are appalling - the situation makes 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' look like a day out in the park. To put it in to perspective, the groups centred around Abu Musab al Zawqawi (al Qaeda in Iraq/Tawhid Jihad) take thier inspiration from the Chechnyans and many are believed to have experience fighting the Russians in Chechnya and Afghanistan.
So, Russia may get weaker in Chechnya (and shift thier responsibilities to thier local allies) and Chechyan foreign fighters have been leaving for Iraq - the defence of Arab soil is more important than the Russian Republics you see. Considering the brutality of Russias allies, crimes may rise but foreign coverage may dwindle to even less as focus will continue to remain on the battlefields of the United States - the entire Middle East by current events.
The Middle East may be subject to limited 'democratic reform' (basically just handing over rule from one bunch of corrupt millionaire families/dictators to 'democratically elected' corrupt millionaires from the same family or political party) but the Russian federation is going to be one to watch.
Thats what I think anyway Could be wrong, could be right. I reckon I should just shut it, fuk ov and go to bed.
Congrats GK, such opinions officially qualify you for the People With A Brain club. Sadly the movers and shakers of Western politics don't agree, and are happy to appease Russia's regression into a vast nuclear dictatorship in the name of stopping Iran's current dicatatorship gaining a single nuke, and so on. Good times will be had by all.
Russia already has nukes so there is little that Western government can do withut raising the stakes, especially when the USA and the Russian Federation are still rivals at heart. Its not surprising really what Russia is doing. The US will inevitably gain the SDI so Russias new tech - which will not be around for another 5 years or so - will just cancel out any advantages.
Iran, on the other hand, has et to develop nuclear weapons. Even if it is trying to gain them it will take them 5 years too, but its best to difuse the situation while the 'window of opportunity' remains open. But Europe, Israel and the US along with China and Russia are going about it the wrong way. Maybe if they pulled thier thumbs out of their arses and disbanded thier own thermonuclear arsenals like they should have done the world would not be in this situation. The Cold war may be over, but the arms race has continued just as it has done for centuries.
Iran, on the other hand, has et to develop nuclear weapons. Even if it is trying to gain them it will take them 5 years too, but its best to difuse the situation while the 'window of opportunity' remains open. But Europe, Israel and the US along with China and Russia are going about it the wrong way. Maybe if they pulled thier thumbs out of their arses and disbanded thier own thermonuclear arsenals like they should have done the world would not be in this situation. The Cold war may be over, but the arms race has continued just as it has done for centuries.
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Wicked documentry guys, about 15+ years old though but from what i've seen in other programes the p-comp + the training establishment is the same - not modern at all. But hey the results speak for themselves looks brutal as mentioned !!! 
Just wondering guys - any off you know when exactly it was made i havn't watched it all yet but i know its past 1985 as one of the dudes says somthing during the first few minutes....i'd guess the late 80s. Anyone know for sure ??
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Just wondering guys - any off you know when exactly it was made i havn't watched it all yet but i know its past 1985 as one of the dudes says somthing during the first few minutes....i'd guess the late 80s. Anyone know for sure ??
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Thanks, I forgot about the credits 
I just wondered because of the gun they are carrying (forgot the name - somthing like SLR), I thought the SA80 came into use during the mid 80s ?? 1992 seems a little late not to be issued with them, but hey I know crap all about this so i'll just wait 'til somebody with a better knowalge answers
I just wondered because of the gun they are carrying (forgot the name - somthing like SLR), I thought the SA80 came into use during the mid 80s ?? 1992 seems a little late not to be issued with them, but hey I know crap all about this so i'll just wait 'til somebody with a better knowalge answers 