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Army to SBS?

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Hi all,

Was just thinking about the armed forces, and I started wondering if it was possible for someone from the Army (ie Royal Signals) could attempt selection for the SBS. Its been nagging me for a few hours now.

So you know, I am not a walter and although I do have some small ambitions of maybe, just possibly attempting SF selection, I am realistic enough to understand that only very few ever get selected, never mind pass selection.

I've tried search the MF site and Google, but was unable to find an answer to this specific question. Certainly is interesting (at least to me) to know if the SBS work the same way as the SAS in its selection from the services.

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Post by Wee Willy Winkie »

do a bit of research mate, you can only attempt selection for the SBS after joining the RM as its a specialisation like platoon weapons or mountain leader. (if im wrong now ill look like a prat :o )
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Post by Sarastro »

That is still true going for selection from RM, and is how it used to work in entirety Winkie, but currently I believe every major unit under the UK SF wing is tri-service. So anyone from RAF, RN, BA can apply for SAS, SBS or this new lot made from 1 Para. Obviously your average RM has a better chance of being put forward and passing selection than your average RAF cook though!

Just what I've gathered from reading here, please correct me if wrong!
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guys if you can read click on the link and the first part says
Although the SBS traditionally came under the control of the Royal Marines, and only recruited from among the commandos, in recent years command of the unit has passed to the Director Special Forces, who is also in charge of the SAS.

Over the past year, another link to the Royal Marines has been severed with the introduction of joint selection for both the SAS and the SBS. Now any member of the armed forces can join either unit. As a result, the unit has doubled in size to about 230 men.
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Post by Wee Willy Winkie »

im sorry adj, i humbly bow down to your knowledge, now to get up with out knackering my back :o W/W;W
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Unfortunatatley adj125 is absolutely corerect. Anybody can join the SBS these days. Providing, of course that they pass the SAS/SBS Joint selection course. We older guys are are not necessarily in favour of the change. Having only RM in the SBS gave some sort of comradeship. Introducing other services is not necessarily a good thing!!
You may take a different view, but that is mine!!
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i wonder how it works in practise now

if the SBS is still made up of booties in the same way the the SAS is made up of paras?
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Well there is a recruiting poster right next to my room, and i am a guardsman. You can join from any service now.
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markthestab,
I suppose it does work in practice, because they have been tri-service now for a couple of years. However the majority (90%?) are still RM and long may they be so.
RM's trust each other and know each other. I think it was a big mistake to join the selection processes.
The SBS should have been kept seperate!
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the SBS used to be better than than the SAS because the troops who joined had much better basic training. Now if any1 can join the soldiers from the army or raf who get in may have the endurance and spirit but will they be as good with a gun? If so will the SBS continue to be the best
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megadevil wrote: Now if any1 can join the soldiers from the army or raf who get in may have the endurance and spirit but will they be as good with a gun?
That's a pretty uneducated and ignorant supposition you're making there!
Oh! and generally speaking they're referred to as weapons! not...... guns!
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megadevil

You made quite a sweeping statement in your last post. i.e.
the SBS used to be better than than the SAS because the troops who joined had much better basic training.
If you do a search you will find the "who is best" argument has been well and truly overdone. Ther is no "best". Each used to be good at what they did.
Unfortunately, nowadays, none of them seem to know what they do or where they come from. They now do each other's jobs. That to me is not right. That is why you have an SBS patrol of (30 men!!), in the middle of the Iraquie desert, hundreds of miles from the sea!! It turned out to be a disaster.
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Post by Artist »

I am with Sneaky on this one.

When the SB were 100% Bootneck they kept a low profile and did all jobs given to them with their normal professionalism. No Trumpets and no mention in the papers. Not by Strengh, By Guile. As the SBS had always done it. Minimum Fuss but with a postive result.

Now..............Yee Haa! Wrong, dreadfully wrong.

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megadevil that as to be the most stupid coment i've heard for abit on hear. What do you think the Army carry with them a mop and bucket.

come on mate think what your saying

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