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General discussions on joining & training in The Parachute Regiment.
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Post by Bliartheliar »

Edwards159 wrote:
flynn101 wrote:on milling do they put you up against someone of equal size or is it random selection?
Same height and weight
Just the other day my dad was telling me about when he done P company with 4 para. For the milling he was put up against a 6ft 5" giant (hes only about 5ft 10"). He did pass though for showing agression - he rugby tackled the c@#t.
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Sticky Blue wrote:I've got an idea:
Jumping out of a plane without a parachute, that would make you look hard. IF they didn't provide parachutes I'm pretty sure the lads would buy one, just because they don't provide gun shields it doesn't mean you shouldn't use them
That’s a stupid comparison. You use a parachute because it will save your life. You wear a gum shield in case you damage your mouth or teeth. You are guaranteed to die if you don’t use a parachute when you hit the ground from jumping out of a plane, yet its not guaranteed that you will have your teeth knocked out in the milling. And i don’t think you would ever punch someone’s teeth out with the gloves they use, because they are massive and really padded.
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Jobag wrote:
Sticky Blue wrote:I've got an idea:
Jumping out of a plane without a parachute, that would make you look hard. IF they didn't provide parachutes I'm pretty sure the lads would buy one, just because they don't provide gun shields it doesn't mean you shouldn't use them
That’s a stupid comparison. You use a parachute because it will save your life. You wear a gum shield in case you damage your mouth or teeth. You are guaranteed to die if you don’t use a parachute when you hit the ground from jumping out of a plane, yet its not guaranteed that you will have your teeth knocked out in the milling. And i don’t think you would ever punch someone’s teeth out with the gloves they use, because they are massive and really padded.
i have met people who have had broken noses and lost teeth milling on p company, im not telling fibs mate

BTW, a general question for you about the parachute regiment, im curious to know what happens to recruits who fail p company events at the end of thier training for example if they get injured, are they binned or do they get backsquaded and get another go like the marines do with hunter

im not thinking of joining para reg or anything im just curious about it
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Post by Grimey Vibes »

Nah they go to Falklands Platoon (Guards and Paras) in Williams company, same as hunter i think, if they get injured or backsquadded if they fail. I know a South African on P Company who recently joined Jobag's platoon, he injured his leg last time he done P Company and went to Falklands Platoon.
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If you fail p-company because you cannot get enough points to pass, you are sent to Browning section. The majority of time spent in Browning is taken up by fitness, as you have 2 PT sessions a day. Once another platoon is due to start p-company, you will join it and have another go.

If you get seriously injured, you will be sent to Falklands Platoon, designed to rest the recruit and then re-build his fitness ready to be sent back to a training platoon. He will most likely be backsquadded, but could be Medically Discharged if there are no signs of improvement after a certain amount of time.

P.S. 20 Miler and Stretcher Race left for me. Its looking good so far, havnt failed an event. :)
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markthestab wrote:i will take a mouth gaurd and look gay
In that case, do please ensure that they match your shorts (Queen's Queens' Regulations Chapt 5, Art 5Aiv). A similar colour co-ordinated handbag is not recommended 'cause that'll pre-empt and therefore frustrate the Staff whose favourite line is "All you are missing is a handbag..." :wink:

Ensure you hear it only when someone else is in the ring! :D

The guys who lost teeth surely had their mouths wide open and were hit by a heavy set opponent. Grit your teeth. If you're keen, toughen up and practise beforehand by getting a friend to whack you in the mouth with a pick axe helve. "No pain, no gain"... :wink:

Only joking. If your teeth match on the bite, I'd have thought you'd be okay by simply gritting them. It's not worth losing teeth over - if you can pass with a guard then wear a guard, if you're heavy set. I would have been too lazy to bother.

RE Static Jump: Jump on the "Go" with both feet together. It's easily doable even though it seems impossible. Do it right, first time and you only have to do it once.

(That said, I think there's an "acclimatisation" session, these days. Doesn't matter. When you land on the platform, you can't believe how easy it actually was. The second time 'round shouldn't be a problem at all.)

It's also a safety issue: jump in a stride and you might easily over-compensate and overshoot the platform. In which case, you'll get hurt...

Fort of the day: When I was a kid, there were "adventure playgrounds". One, in Crystal Palace, had a walkway about 4-5' off the ground. With modern PC health and safety (plus a litigious culture) these are no more. These things build confidence. Soon they'll be making kids' clothing out of bubblewrap.

It's no wonder that Depot has introduced an acclimatisation session - they need to.
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Post by 4of10 »

Two things:

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markthestab wrote:ill post back on here to let you know if i pass
WRONG. Not "if" but "when". A small detail but you've got to start putting your mind into the right state from the very beginning.

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markthestab wrote:im curious to know what happens to recruits who fail p company events
That's always got to be someone else's problem.

I hope you take this as constructive criticism, as it's intended. Everyone who tackles one of the Selections has these reservations, don't worry. Remember: "when I pass" and... well forget the other question!
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markthestab wrote:im not thinking of joining para reg or anything im just curious about it
I've only just spotted this.

Now you're almost confusing me! (Don't give yourself a pat on the back - that's hardly an accomplishment! :wink: )

Is it a trick question or a typo? Didn't you mean "Reg PARA"?
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Bliartheliar wrote:
Edwards159 wrote:
flynn101 wrote:on milling do they put you up against someone of equal size or is it random selection?
Same height and weight
Just the other day my dad was telling me about when he done P company with 4 para. For the milling he was put up against a 6ft 5" giant (hes only about 5ft 10"). He did pass though for showing agression - he rugby tackled the c@#t.
That's nothing!

I know of a secret squirrel type: Hendy-Freegard is his name and 007 is his number. He beat sh*t out of one of his recruits to "MI5". Just to show loyalty... :lol:

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who would have thought plummeting out of a plane would be so complex :lol:
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I am just signing up for 4 para, and not too sure what to expect. I gather the training is over about 8 weekends (2 a month?) and then you do p company. I was wondering if its hard to keep a good level of fitness when you're being trained part time. Is there anyone is 4 para who could give me an idea of what its like?
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TA4 wrote:I am just signing up for 4 para, and not too sure what to expect. I gather the training is over about 8 weekends (2 a month?) and then you do p company. I was wondering if its hard to keep a good level of fitness when you're being trained part time. Is there anyone is 4 para who could give me an idea of what its like?
if they've not given you the blurb yet:

a LOT of the phys training you WILL require is to be carried out on your own time under your own motivation.

just because theres no angry flat nosed para pti there to beast you does not mean you dont have to go and rag yourself into a sweaty lump of exhaustion (or thereabouts :D )
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TA4 wrote:I am just signing up for 4 para, and not too sure what to expect. I gather the training is over about 8 weekends (2 a month?) and then you do p company. I was wondering if its hard to keep a good level of fitness when you're being trained part time. Is there anyone is 4 para who could give me an idea of what its like?
Where are you joining? Croydon, White City?

You'll need to do your own fitness in your own time. On a Tuesday evening, there are the usual lessons in weapons, map-reading etc, then some PT. The PTIs are good blokes, but sadistic as well. They'll work you over, and on a run, they run HARD. Nasty, but you'll feel great afterwards.

The weekends are every 2 weeks. 1 & 2 is just bullshit. 3 is on the ranges, & 4 onwards is in the field. 7 & 8 are nasty ones where they check you are good to go to Catterick where you have a 2 week course. Week 1 is CIC and then Week2 is P Coy. assuming you pass that, you'll be sent off for a 2 week parachute course at Brize Norton.

Hope that helps. The next cadre starts in September.

At the top of this Paras section you should find a 16 week fitness guide done by one of the 15 Coy PTIs. Good way to build up fitness.

Hope this helps.
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Post by Bandit57 »

Hi,
Can anyone tell me the initial fitness requirements to join 4 Para? The TA don't seem to have a RSC but there must be a suggested level of fitness, BPFA green pass perhaps?
Cheers for any help

Will
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