Arrogant, ignorant and not Royal.

[Cav-Lad]

Andy wrote:

Staying with the thread, which is most unusual for me. When in Singapore we lived on a married patch surrounded by pongo families from all sorts of Corps and regiments.

As sure as God made little apples, when I was up the ulu, or elsewhere things would go pear shaped at home. One day the wife was trying to get rid of a snake out of the house by poking it with an umbrella, to no avail. She went to our next door neighbour, John, REME I think, had just returned from work. John came into the house with his machette and told the wife to take the kids out of the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! and close the door. After a bit of banging and shouting John emerged from the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! with a chopped up cobra.

On another occasions my wife and kids returned home to find that the beautiful flowering vine, which covered our fence and car porch, was covered with munching locust. In a panic she went to another neighbour, Int Corps I believe. He spent about three hours cutting away the vine and getting rid of the vine and the locusts.

On the other side, when I was lying in RNH Plymouth after being wounded in NI. My wife and kids lived in MQs in Plympton. My wife who was unable to drive at that time had to bus it with two small children to visit me. Not once did anyone offer her a lift into the hospital.

Just thought I would re-print that because judging by the silence of certain people they have not read it or can't answer it.
It don't matter if you are in/or the married partner off someone in the RM,Navy,Army,RAF we are all human and on the whole born and bread Brits. So there's good and bad, helpful and lazy, stuck-up and nice in all the services MQ's.
I mean it's not as if they inject people living on Navy MQ's with a "be nice to your neighbours" drug is there.
All this 'our married couples are better than yours' is pathetic and childish and some should be old enough to know better. El Prez

Thank you Mince for seeing my side.

Cav-Lad

[Artist]

I spent a large part of my life living in MQ's. RAF. Army, and lastly Marine/Navy with my own wife and kids.

The RAF ones were fine normally stuck in the middle of nowhere. So everybody new everybody else.

The Army MQ,s however I remember with nothing but distaste. As Me Pop was RAF and we were living in an Army MQ patch in Aldershot me poor old Mum went though hell. As she was "not one of the girls" the majority of wifes ignored her. I was always in trouble as I defended my fathers Career vigourously. Thankfully we only stayed for a few months owing to Mum having a nervous breakdown due to the Ignorance and pettyness of the Army wifes who basically snubbed her at every opportunity.

My time in the RM/RN Mq's were fine. At one time I had an USMC S/sgt as a next door neighbour who I got on fine with, ditto the RNLMC Sgt who I also lived next door to.

The time when me Mum was put through the wringer had a long lasting affect on me. I could not care a flying toss Cav Lad about how nice your neighbours are. The ones at Aldershot were scum! This was well over 30 years ago and things so I thought may have changed but reading Flo's input it does not seem to have changed on iota.

Artist

[Cav-Lad]

Artist wrote:

This was well over 30 years ago and things so I thought may have changed but reading Flo's input it does not seem to have changed on iota.

So what of Andy 0'Pray's inut which shows things from another angle. Or are you just going to ignore it because it does not fit into your idea of how everything is.
I find it really pathetic that we are arguing over this, because it makes no sence. How on earth can all RM/Navy couples living in MQ's be perfect neighbours and the Army ones be not. Unless of corse a number of things happen.
.Everyone in the Army who gets married go on a cadre to make them as orid as posible.
.Everyone in the Army is a nasty piece of work and only marry's another nasty peice of work.
Plus I would be interested to know how a Army(Pongo) family would be treated on a Navy MQ's.

Cav-Lad

[Artist]

All I'm doing is stating facts Cav Lad. If that puts you nose out of joint hard luck.

My own sister was married to a lad in the Army. REME so he was. (22 years service) She got the cold shoulder from the wifes also as she did not fit in with the majority of the Wifes. i.e. their husbands were one regt whilst my sisters husband was REME.

I reckon I got an inkling of what a black person must feel like ref discrimination when we lived in Aldershot. I was always getting into fights with Army Bratts whos Fathers were Paras and therefore the only people who counted. Pop was based at the Para depot at the time.

Artist

[Cav-Lad]

Artist.
I don't dispute what you are saying there. I live on an estate that only houses people from two Regiments plus of course a few attached personnel e.g.. REME, AGC , etc. So there isn't much tension as everyone knows each other through work. I also use to live next door to a Warrant Officer when I was only a Trooper and there no problems between us and our Wife's. I called him by his first name except at work for obvious reasons. And our wife's went on the p~ss together with other wife's of different ranks with no trouble.
Now there are MQ estates i.e.. Tidworth, Catterick, ALDERSHOT which include a hell of alot of different Regiments. And there's allot of rivalry and sometimes HATRED between different Army units. And this may after a period of time or from pressure of there husbands rub of on the wife's. But most wife's I've seen couldn't care less, they have to much of other things to worry about.
I just find it hard to believe that there is a major difference between Army and Navy personnel when it comes to social skills. It's not as though we have different up bringings, most of us are working class men and women.

Also from my experience I can't see the Army treating you so badly because your RM or Navy. I've never really noticed a dislike or hatred for the Navy by the Army. I can't even think of a name we call you, I can for the RAF but not Navy. During OP Fresco we worked and got on very well with the Navy, there were no problems.

No, the Army spend too much time hating each other.

But what you and others have experienced is what you have experianced and I can't argue with that. I'm simply fighting the Armys corner, and I'm sure if this tread was started on the Armys forum, or another Website that I wont mention, that is more catred for Army personnel (Militaryforums is Royal Marine dominated) then you might find yourself surrounded by people with different storys to tell.

Anyway cheers Cav-Lad

[Tommy Gun]

just come back from the priarie, seen the comments but am upset at the state of play. Ive seen the wives in action out here and quite frankley Pongo can take a leap. I mean that in no disrespect to the MEN that i have worked with but to the arrogant small minded people that think they know it all. Myself, flo and family are out here at the request of the army and we are glad to be here, however, i have seen first hand the way they work and the way they live and it is obvious through conversation that the army feel they have to bite back at Royal. Having not been in on the forum from first hand, (due to training with the army in canada at BATUS) i have to say that its pathetic that my wife had to struggle on her own in a new foreign country with no back up from the army. Least said but i doubt it will be mended

One threaders Royal

[Andy O'Pray]

Welcome back Jed. I was sure that you stayed overnight in Calgary to watch the game, Calgary lost 1-0 How was your trip in Alberta?

Aye - Andy.

[El Prez]

All this 'our married couples are better than yours' is pathetic and childish and some should be old enough to know better. El Prez

It would be pathetic and childish if it wasn't written from experience, both mine and Flo's. I always opted to live in hirings, no ranks, no hassle.

[Cliodna]

Jed,
Welcome back mate.
Flo will be glad to see you.

[flo]

This is a good topic of discussion which is being driven into an interservice war needlessly.

sorry i dont agree that it is being driven into an interservice war, people are stating FACT not fiction. Cav-lad is fighting for his corner - respect, but everyone is talking from experience and i dont think it would have made one iota of a difference if i had posted this thread on the army discussion. The fact is i am a nontouchable as are many attached wifes, I have seen it before and i am experiencing it now. Out here there are five different units, Cavalry, duke of wellington, 21 Reg, 4 armoured and another lot and every one is competing with each other, which to me is pathetic. Cav lad said himself that he is lucky with his patch, and its NOT about our patch is better than there patch (that in itself is a childish thing to say)but one day he may find himself attached to another unit and then god forbidding his wife may too become an untouchable.

[Artist]

Flo

Look on the bright side me Luver. When you've had yer wicked way with Jed he can sort out the swing. by the way Flo hows he holding up being chained to the bedstead? I trust your feeding him well.

Remember be gentle with him Flo. I suppose he will be building a Wabbit hutch next then?

Artist

[flo]

Holding up well, complete with nursey uniform (el prez youre not the only one ) as for the wabbit hutch oh yes but we wont be relying on the neighbours for any help. Sorry Cav- Lad but ive wrapped my hand in - well with Pearce anyway!!!!
And on a final not I started this thread so i have the honour of finishing it.

Every one of us is an individual, every patch is individual but as mankind is one, then shouldnt we be one, stick together and stop being jack.


This thread is now closed.
now where did i put that vodka?