women at the front

[HCR]

Greenronie said

The reason why there is more chance of women being KIA or WIA nowadays is that there aren't really any "front lines". There's obviously more dangerous areas, and places where our troops are actively seeking out the enemy, and in these areas you don't find many (if any) females. However, the fact that you can be IED'd in any part of Afghanistan or Iraq means that anyone and everyone is at risk.

Bang on statement GR. Ive seen Female Medics and Int Corps members serving in very dangerous areas in Afghanistan. And in Iraq Female Mastiff drivers dropping us off in the area of the Shia flats. Not a nice place. And some have paid the Ultimate price. The days of the fighting troops and REMFS dont exsist anymore. Look how many so called REMFS have died in Iraq through the COB and Basra Palace being Rocketed

[Rover]

An interesting item.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7669944.stm

Rover

[Fusilier]

I just don’t believe most woman have the aggression to make Infantry soldiers or the fitness. Just my view.

Yes they do a great job, yes they put their lives on the line, yes they are just as brave as men. But that’s not house clearing or closing with the enemy and that I think is the point. Do the math’s and you will find by far the larger percentage of soldiers killed are INFANTRY, front line units. I don’t think a mixed unit will work for lot’s of reasons.

The truth is that if you put woman in the front line units, deaths and casualties will dramatically increase. Most in the UK have just not got the stomach to see our young woman be sent home in body bags. It would be bad for moral both at home and in serving units, that is just a fact.

http://www.lastingtribute.co.uk/famousp ... tan/-/-/13

Check out the 100 units these men were in and how many were woman.

[schmoo]

Seriously!! I'm usually composed but to hell with it! There are countless women serving on front lines, especially with the U.S. forces, hell I'm in the Navy (I didn't sign up for the Army's job!:) and I can tell you my next assignment can't get any closer than right in the thick of it, (Classified), which brings me to another point OPSEC? We don't know this guy! He's on here asking for experiences? Hoping some girl or whoever will slip up or any of us will say something anything that could be useful? I'm not paranoid, I'm serious, if any of you deal with intel/counter terrorism I'm telling you this sounds naf. Anyway, researcher 101, why don't you or your producer go through normal military channels so people can be briefed on the info they want to give, or just go through documentary protocol? Back to my first gripe, when I open up my military paper weekly they post the faces of the Marines, Army, Navy fallen etc and trust me there are women there on the front lines that gave their life. And yes, we signed up just like you, but why don't you consider the fact that we sometimes get tortured more and raped countless times by countless nasty dirty, pigs prior to death whereas you wouldn't? Okay that's my 2 cents, oh and yes the whole lynch story was over kill, but you know what? That's the media for ya

[schmoo]

Okay, maybe I went a little bonkers but still? Sorry, as I am talking about US forces vice UK, I shouldn't comment on your lot as I don't have enough background on female assignments

[Fusilier]

Okay, maybe I went a little bonkers but still? Sorry, as I am talking about US forces vice UK, I shouldn't comment on your lot as I don't have enough background on female assignments

What Infantry US units are woman serving in?

Front lines, yep we know that. However front lines can mean different things to different people. Yep again woman have given their life’s, we also acknowledge that. Do you know the percentage because the US or the UK is not going to have hundreds of woman dieing while their children cry at their mums coffins.

sometimes get tortured more and raped countless times by countless nasty dirty, pigs prior to death whereas you wouldn't

Believe me if that happens in any great numbers we would not be told. The US or UK public would not suffer it and would demand for them to be pulled back.

[schmoo]

I understand what your saying, but I wasn't talking about 'numbers' per say. More the fact that there are plenty of females serving and dying out there whether it's 'officially' or not. Of course the majority are men by no means do I deny that maybe 90% are men, I'm not a stat analysts so I can't comment on that. It's not so much the Marine females in infantry or engineer units for the Army but all of our branches are directed out through IA system. Its just what and where the billet is, and whether its a joint billet or not. My friend just got Horn Africa, another got Afghan, both were Navy.

[Tab]

I was reading the other day about a woman that rode and fought with the Dragoons all over Europe with Marlborough's Army. Now if they want to do it and are up to and pass the same tests as the men then let do it. They should be aware the living conditions on a battlefield can be crude at best and there is no chance of privacy

[Greenronnie]

Now if they want to do it and are up to and pass the same tests as the men then let do it. They should be aware the living conditions on a battlefield can be crude at best and there is no chance of privacy

Good comment Tab, the main point is that you can't make special allowances on operations. Which is quite awkward when females are involved.

There was a female soldier deployed with the Danish recce squadron that reinforced us at Musa Qaleh, she was an infantry soldier the same as the rest of them. She was awesome! She mucked out with filling sandbags, stagging on, patrolling, the lot. Hats off to her. But she did have a problem when wanting to use the toilet, and after several weeks of being stuck out there, she was a bit of a distraction!!

[Greenronnie]

but why don't you consider the fact that we sometimes get tortured more and raped countless times by countless nasty dirty, pigs prior to death whereas you wouldn't?

Well, that's a load of b*****s for a start, when you consider who the enemy are nowadays. Man love Thursdays?? Dirty fookahs!

As for females serving in the 'front lines', that's mainly because there aren't any front lines, per se, any more. Assymetric warfare and all that! So many of the REMF jobs are open to threat now, whereas they weren't in the past. Obviously there are more women serving in higher threat roles, ie pilots, gunners etc, but there still aren't any being sent in with bayonets fixed with the infantry. And there are many good reasons for that. Anyone that can't see that needs to have a reality check.

[schmoo]

There instances where some girls give the rest of us a bad name..either using their boobs or arse as a 'oh could you show me how?' and never break a nail, to the 'oh it's to heavy' or better yet, a couple of years ago it was a fact that there was a growing number that was getting pregnant on purpose so they wouldn't go on ships or get deployed. I guess I'm going off subject

[Rogue Chef]

Just to liven things up a bit.

Women at the front? At the front of what? The supermarket queue?

Or should it be 'in front' as in, 'in front of the cooker/washing machine/ironing board etc'?

That should do it!

[Hyperlithe]

Only problem there Rogue - everyone knows that you've said it to try and get a rise, so you've actually sort of defeated your own object!


Women at the front of the queue when the brains were handed out...


My (male) lodger does all the cooking and washing up, and pays me for the privilege!

[flighty]

You need to share him, Hypes. :multi: