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75 mile supermen....
75 mile supermen....
3 lads I know are doing a 75 mile walk in 2 days across Wales for charity, they have done next to no training and no hill work at all. They'll be sleeping in a tent they carry with them along with the rest of the kit they'll need. So that’s what 40lbs all in per man?
I'm no expert on walking over mountains by a long way, but surely that'd be nails for anyone? Let alone without any training! I wonder how far they'll get before they jack it all in... Any bets?
Anyone in the know that can shed some light on the likely weight of kit and practicality of that mileage over Welsh mountains will cause me and many others great amusement.
Cheers
Skeav
I'm no expert on walking over mountains by a long way, but surely that'd be nails for anyone? Let alone without any training! I wonder how far they'll get before they jack it all in... Any bets?
Anyone in the know that can shed some light on the likely weight of kit and practicality of that mileage over Welsh mountains will cause me and many others great amusement.
Cheers
Skeav
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Personally, I'd say you're looking more at about 30 kilos (about 60 lbs). Depending of course on how much grub, clothing, equipment etc. they intend to take. If they travel light, yea about 30 to 40 lbs.
And if they've only done road walking so far & no training on hills, then their knees, ankles and hips not to mention their backs, shoulders and neck are in for a hell of a battering. Doing Nejmigen or a BFT down country lanes is one thing, I've done that. Taking it to the hills is entirely different, I've done that too.
And 75 miles in two days...that's some going! Hope they've got good boots!
Unless they're running, at a steady good walk over rough ground with 30 kilos you reckon about 15-20 minutes a mile. Give or take five minutes either way depending on faster or slower sections. That's about 4 miles an hour. So to cover 75 miles in two days they'll have to be moving for a total of about 18 hours!
Perfectly feasible, but they'll be totally knacked if and when they finish!
I've done a 10 km run,with full kit (rifle,helmet, sleeping bag,camp bed, 66 LAW, and entrenching tools on top of full pack) over rough terrain in Wiltshire and that was tough.
But I'm sure the Para boys and Royals here will laugh at me for mentioning that, 'cos I know they've done and do much tougher!
And if they've only done road walking so far & no training on hills, then their knees, ankles and hips not to mention their backs, shoulders and neck are in for a hell of a battering. Doing Nejmigen or a BFT down country lanes is one thing, I've done that. Taking it to the hills is entirely different, I've done that too.
And 75 miles in two days...that's some going! Hope they've got good boots!
Unless they're running, at a steady good walk over rough ground with 30 kilos you reckon about 15-20 minutes a mile. Give or take five minutes either way depending on faster or slower sections. That's about 4 miles an hour. So to cover 75 miles in two days they'll have to be moving for a total of about 18 hours!
Perfectly feasible, but they'll be totally knacked if and when they finish!
I've done a 10 km run,with full kit (rifle,helmet, sleeping bag,camp bed, 66 LAW, and entrenching tools on top of full pack) over rough terrain in Wiltshire and that was tough.
But I'm sure the Para boys and Royals here will laugh at me for mentioning that, 'cos I know they've done and do much tougher!
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Seen! And that was just mincing with kit for the day (about 17lbs) up the Fan and around the horseshoe of hills just there.Paratrooper01 wrote:...and there was me thinking Endurance was hard (42 miles in 20 hours with 65lbs).
75 miles in 2 days is by no means impossible but its going to be very hard indeed with no training. Those brecon mountains are ruthless as a few people on here well know.



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Re: 75 mile supermen....
What's the charity? ...Mountain Rescue by any chance? ...Skeav wrote:3 lads I know are doing a 75 mile walk in 2 days across Wales for charity, they have done next to no training and no hill work at all.

Sounds like it was one of those "Seemed like a good idea at the time/after necking 3 crates of ale each" moments to me... You'll be sorreeeeeee....!!

Aaahhh.. memories... The sweet sound of the Nijmegen medics injecting iodine into blisters the size of walnuts from the Scream Tent.... At least at Nijmegen marches you had the incentive of a BIG beer tent waiting for you at the end of each day and an all night multinational drinking competition to prepare you for the next day of pain...
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They're not even impresive sport billy, I want to see at east one mroe blister forming on top of those wounds there. I was once setting off for a 6 week stroll, within the first 3 days - I had done far to little prep - I had wounds resembling them there, by the time my first week was over the second blister was laready startign in the nice gooey fleshy layer. I very nearly packed it in I can tell you.
75 miles in 3 days, for a normal person with little training that is going to be very tough. The ten tors challenge on dartmoor has 55 miles as its max length course in the same time, over the easier walking terrrain of dartmoor, and most struggle with that; thats made up of 17/18 year old (mainly boys) who have been trainign on the terrain every other weekend for a few months before.
75 miles 3 days could be done by any person of reasonable fitness without too much difficulty; knock 24 hours off that its a different story. I would say they will struggle a lot; of course it all comes down to their base ability, but they coudl do it. Mental strength is really going to come into play here.
I wish them luck but I think if I had signed myself up for this I would be really plugging away with my training. How far away is the challenge? I think 75 miles in 2 days is a hard pace, for an average person its going to be a very hard challenge, with no training over the terrain theyy will be going over I would be surprised if they do it.
75 miles in 3 days, for a normal person with little training that is going to be very tough. The ten tors challenge on dartmoor has 55 miles as its max length course in the same time, over the easier walking terrrain of dartmoor, and most struggle with that; thats made up of 17/18 year old (mainly boys) who have been trainign on the terrain every other weekend for a few months before.
75 miles 3 days could be done by any person of reasonable fitness without too much difficulty; knock 24 hours off that its a different story. I would say they will struggle a lot; of course it all comes down to their base ability, but they coudl do it. Mental strength is really going to come into play here.
I wish them luck but I think if I had signed myself up for this I would be really plugging away with my training. How far away is the challenge? I think 75 miles in 2 days is a hard pace, for an average person its going to be a very hard challenge, with no training over the terrain theyy will be going over I would be surprised if they do it.
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Didn't your lads used to do an annual 50 miler,but it has since been stopped because most of the lads were farked for a couple of days after?.
I also read in a book that during WW2 the lads in 3 Cdo did a 46 miler starting at Scarborough and ending up on the N Yorks Moors somewhere,they did it in record breaking time because they wanted to get back in time for the local dance!!.Those lads were nails.
Anyway those lads will find it tough,good luck to them.
SH
Didn't your lads used to do an annual 50 miler,but it has since been stopped because most of the lads were farked for a couple of days after?.
I also read in a book that during WW2 the lads in 3 Cdo did a 46 miler starting at Scarborough and ending up on the N Yorks Moors somewhere,they did it in record breaking time because they wanted to get back in time for the local dance!!.Those lads were nails.
Anyway those lads will find it tough,good luck to them.
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How unusual Shouldersread in a book

75 mile in two days with 40lbs?
Without training that is a hard yomp on the flat in good weather with a following wind.

In the Beacons it is not possible without training.
That`s training for the physical effort and training in map reading, route selection, compass work etc. plus the simple admin tasks required.
Mountains have two sides, 1 X up and 1 X down if that helps

They won`t last very long before being binned, supposing they are allowed to start that is

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