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He's so arrogant though Mike, he'd probably refuse to acknowledge it as the centre of the earthMike90 wrote:I think he has now dug so far that he is fast approaching the Earth's core where he shall experience the glorious death of being slowly cooked alive...London Boy wrote:Keep digging!
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Re: Infantreee or Gooo-arrrds
B-E-A-R wrote:YES, YES, YES YOU ARE. He's finally got it. Thank god. By the way how about being a jumped up little c@#t. YOUR GOOD AT THAT.
Its YOU'RE actually
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Re: Infantreee or Gooo-arrrds
Well spotted Robbie lad!robbiedont wrote:B-E-A-R wrote:YES, YES, YES YOU ARE. He's finally got it. Thank god. By the way how about being a jumped up little c@#t. YOUR GOOD AT THAT
Its YOU'RE actually
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Re: Infantreee or Gooo-arrrds
London Boy wrote:Well spotted Robbie lad!robbiedont wrote:B-E-A-R wrote:YES, YES, YES YOU ARE. He's finally got it. Thank god. By the way how about being a jumped up little c@#t. YOUR GOOD AT THAT
Its YOU'RE actually
Can I have a cookie?
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Re: Infantreee or Gooo-arrrds
Yea, and a glass of milk!robbiedont wrote:London Boy wrote:Well spotted Robbie lad!robbiedont wrote:
Its YOU'RE actually
Can I have a cookie?
Please may I have a spade? I fancy digging myself a bigger hole!-
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"Fribe"? Put yer teeth back in FFS. Or borrow Docs!
While having toss-pots like you two in a platoon can be mildly entertaining, it is short-lived. With the attitudes you have displayed on here I predict that fairly soon after beginning your basic training you will be meeting either
a. the base surgeon,
b. the Provost Corporal; or
c. the station ticket vendor.
If/when you make it to basic training, it will matter not a flying fark what you think, how right you think you are, or what your lovely opinions might be. None of your fellow crows will care. Unless you keep gobbing off, like on here, then you'll just get seriously filled in ... probably by your whole section (less the NCOs), while your asleep. That's just the way it is!
The young corporal who will be your section commander will care least of all and for him you won't even have to show attitude. Oh, no. For him, all you need to do is fail to react to his commands appropriately and/or fast enough, or show weakness, or hesitance, or a lack of teamwork, or slackness, and you will most certainly come undone very quickly and by his hands. And get this. HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT. It doesn't matter what you think. He's right, not you. Even if you think you are. You're not! He is! Even if you think you know you are. Guess what? You're not! HE IS. Even if he's wrong, he's right!
And if you dig your heals in and start whining about how people are being mean to you, thus begins the start of your assured demise. You will be absolutely shunned by your peers and ridden hard by the staff until the day you leave. All manner of people will be hearing your name and for all of the wrong reasons. You will be the topic of discussion, often, back at the platoon office and quite possibly at company level...and none of it will be good. You will be given a talking to by the platoon commander during an "interview" and read the riot act, during which the terms of your continued existence as a crow will be explained. The staff will stick together. You will not be supported by any of them in any way. You will find no advocate. No voice, other than your own. You will become isolated and likely begin to withdraw. If you're lucky, that may be viewed by staff and peers alike as quiet conformity. If you're unlucky, it will be seen as further weakness and those interested will play on that, making your life a yet greater hell. If you don't withdraw, you are likely to be seen as arrogant and unrepentant, bringing a true world of shyte down upon you.
Then, one day, some short time later one of a number of things will happen. Either a little light will suddenyl go on and you'll finally "get it" and attempt to pull yourself up to where you should be (an incredibly tough task at that stage of the game), or you will not be able to take it any more and apply for a release (which may or may not fly, depending on where you are during your training), or you will do something drastic and stupid out of sheer desperation, which will add not only to the silliness of the overall situation, but also to the paperwork of those who have better things to do!
And why is all this so? This why: Because it all boils down to the fire fight. Yes, the fire fight. What infantry (and Guards
), and Paras, and RM do for a living. And when your section commander, or 2i/c or even another section member tells you to move forward and lay down fire (say), and you start mentally analysing if he is right instead of getting it sorted, in that moment you are the very worst of dangerous liabilities. Worse so even than the enemy, because at least everyone already knew "he" is an unreliable git as is evident by the crack and thump.
Hence it all begins at day one with you being able to take some stick without gobbing off. With you cheerfully chipping in with what needs to be done. With you using your noggin in an appropriate manner (suitable initiative). With you opening your ears, shutting your mouth, and learning as much as possible as soon as possible so you can contribute to the team. And with you displaying a sense of humour among your peers, sincere respect for your superiors, and the presence of mind to do what needs to be done when it needs to be done.
There are many members on here who have spent decades in one branch of the military or another. Many of them still are. Of the ones who are/were combat arms, most of them will at one time or another have trained recruits, as well as their own troops back in the unit. Many will have trained dozens of serials. They possess advanced training in many areas of military skills, from weapons systems, to vehicles, to tactics, to methods of insertion, to communications, to combat medicine; the list goes on and on and on. They are an invaluable resouce to young wannabes. And, by the way, they ARE the majority. This is not some ordinary pee-wee site frequented by knock-kneed, airsoft-playing Nintendo-lovers. It's a place where serious-minded and sensible young men and women can get the very best of advice on all manner of topics from recruiting practices to fitness, from experienced folk who have "been there". And it's also a place for the "old and bold" to pull up a sandbag, hang out, and shoot the breeze.
If this was a pub, frequented by the established folk on this forum, where we were the locals who were all pally with the landlord and thought of it as "our" place, and you happened along, think what might happen. You might get a few sideways looks, things might be a bit chilly at first. That's just human nature. Happens to me all the time. After all, you'd be the young newcomers, not the established crew at all. If you were just passing through, then fair enough. Just stopped in for a pint, fair enough, too. Ask a couple of questions of the locals. No problem. But, being the bright fellows that you are, you'd have the presence of mind to think for yourselves that this bunch are not to be farked with. Hence, you ask your questions in an appropriate manner and avoid being toss pots. And when one of the locals fires a short shot across your bow, you laugh it off, realising you may have made a previous mild blunder or maybe he's just having a bit of fun albeit at your expense and life is good. Or, you gob off, make a tit of yourself and reap the whirlwind which results, if things go pear-shaped, in you getting royally filled in in the parking lot, never to be seen in this fine establishment again. There's really no difference.
Now, I do not pretend to speak for my fellow members on here. I'm just an ordinary member. I have no special priviledges and I'm obviously not a mod. And all of our experiences are somewhat different. This is just me telling it my way as I see it. And, to be honest, I really don't have the time to be doing so. Typing is not my strong point and I've got a lot of real shyte to do like finish off writing the 08/09 op plan for the unit. So please take all of this in the spirit in which it is meant.
No one's writing you off. You can turn it around right now. All you need to do is settle down and not be so exciteable. If someone takes the pi$$, just let it go. Move on. Life is a continuous trial. It's up to you how you deal with it. There have been many others with your experience levels have been very successful here and rightly so. Good lads, the lot of them. Some have gone on to become soldiers or Royal Marines and have even told us how they are doing through their basic training and beyond. Some stayed as civies and still stuck around and have contributed in some way. Nothing wrong with that. I hope you see my point.
Think it over.
While having toss-pots like you two in a platoon can be mildly entertaining, it is short-lived. With the attitudes you have displayed on here I predict that fairly soon after beginning your basic training you will be meeting either
a. the base surgeon,
b. the Provost Corporal; or
c. the station ticket vendor.
If/when you make it to basic training, it will matter not a flying fark what you think, how right you think you are, or what your lovely opinions might be. None of your fellow crows will care. Unless you keep gobbing off, like on here, then you'll just get seriously filled in ... probably by your whole section (less the NCOs), while your asleep. That's just the way it is!
The young corporal who will be your section commander will care least of all and for him you won't even have to show attitude. Oh, no. For him, all you need to do is fail to react to his commands appropriately and/or fast enough, or show weakness, or hesitance, or a lack of teamwork, or slackness, and you will most certainly come undone very quickly and by his hands. And get this. HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT. It doesn't matter what you think. He's right, not you. Even if you think you are. You're not! He is! Even if you think you know you are. Guess what? You're not! HE IS. Even if he's wrong, he's right!
And if you dig your heals in and start whining about how people are being mean to you, thus begins the start of your assured demise. You will be absolutely shunned by your peers and ridden hard by the staff until the day you leave. All manner of people will be hearing your name and for all of the wrong reasons. You will be the topic of discussion, often, back at the platoon office and quite possibly at company level...and none of it will be good. You will be given a talking to by the platoon commander during an "interview" and read the riot act, during which the terms of your continued existence as a crow will be explained. The staff will stick together. You will not be supported by any of them in any way. You will find no advocate. No voice, other than your own. You will become isolated and likely begin to withdraw. If you're lucky, that may be viewed by staff and peers alike as quiet conformity. If you're unlucky, it will be seen as further weakness and those interested will play on that, making your life a yet greater hell. If you don't withdraw, you are likely to be seen as arrogant and unrepentant, bringing a true world of shyte down upon you.
Then, one day, some short time later one of a number of things will happen. Either a little light will suddenyl go on and you'll finally "get it" and attempt to pull yourself up to where you should be (an incredibly tough task at that stage of the game), or you will not be able to take it any more and apply for a release (which may or may not fly, depending on where you are during your training), or you will do something drastic and stupid out of sheer desperation, which will add not only to the silliness of the overall situation, but also to the paperwork of those who have better things to do!
And why is all this so? This why: Because it all boils down to the fire fight. Yes, the fire fight. What infantry (and Guards
), and Paras, and RM do for a living. And when your section commander, or 2i/c or even another section member tells you to move forward and lay down fire (say), and you start mentally analysing if he is right instead of getting it sorted, in that moment you are the very worst of dangerous liabilities. Worse so even than the enemy, because at least everyone already knew "he" is an unreliable git as is evident by the crack and thump.Hence it all begins at day one with you being able to take some stick without gobbing off. With you cheerfully chipping in with what needs to be done. With you using your noggin in an appropriate manner (suitable initiative). With you opening your ears, shutting your mouth, and learning as much as possible as soon as possible so you can contribute to the team. And with you displaying a sense of humour among your peers, sincere respect for your superiors, and the presence of mind to do what needs to be done when it needs to be done.
There are many members on here who have spent decades in one branch of the military or another. Many of them still are. Of the ones who are/were combat arms, most of them will at one time or another have trained recruits, as well as their own troops back in the unit. Many will have trained dozens of serials. They possess advanced training in many areas of military skills, from weapons systems, to vehicles, to tactics, to methods of insertion, to communications, to combat medicine; the list goes on and on and on. They are an invaluable resouce to young wannabes. And, by the way, they ARE the majority. This is not some ordinary pee-wee site frequented by knock-kneed, airsoft-playing Nintendo-lovers. It's a place where serious-minded and sensible young men and women can get the very best of advice on all manner of topics from recruiting practices to fitness, from experienced folk who have "been there". And it's also a place for the "old and bold" to pull up a sandbag, hang out, and shoot the breeze.
If this was a pub, frequented by the established folk on this forum, where we were the locals who were all pally with the landlord and thought of it as "our" place, and you happened along, think what might happen. You might get a few sideways looks, things might be a bit chilly at first. That's just human nature. Happens to me all the time. After all, you'd be the young newcomers, not the established crew at all. If you were just passing through, then fair enough. Just stopped in for a pint, fair enough, too. Ask a couple of questions of the locals. No problem. But, being the bright fellows that you are, you'd have the presence of mind to think for yourselves that this bunch are not to be farked with. Hence, you ask your questions in an appropriate manner and avoid being toss pots. And when one of the locals fires a short shot across your bow, you laugh it off, realising you may have made a previous mild blunder or maybe he's just having a bit of fun albeit at your expense and life is good. Or, you gob off, make a tit of yourself and reap the whirlwind which results, if things go pear-shaped, in you getting royally filled in in the parking lot, never to be seen in this fine establishment again. There's really no difference.
Now, I do not pretend to speak for my fellow members on here. I'm just an ordinary member. I have no special priviledges and I'm obviously not a mod. And all of our experiences are somewhat different. This is just me telling it my way as I see it. And, to be honest, I really don't have the time to be doing so. Typing is not my strong point and I've got a lot of real shyte to do like finish off writing the 08/09 op plan for the unit. So please take all of this in the spirit in which it is meant.
No one's writing you off. You can turn it around right now. All you need to do is settle down and not be so exciteable. If someone takes the pi$$, just let it go. Move on. Life is a continuous trial. It's up to you how you deal with it. There have been many others with your experience levels have been very successful here and rightly so. Good lads, the lot of them. Some have gone on to become soldiers or Royal Marines and have even told us how they are doing through their basic training and beyond. Some stayed as civies and still stuck around and have contributed in some way. Nothing wrong with that. I hope you see my point.
Think it over.
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