Sonne wrote:It's a shame that has happenned Moose.
I agree with you in many ways. If a person truely despises the culture of a country there is very little reaosn they should remain there. Perhaps your father should go back to Iraq. His skills as a haematologist i imagine would be in great demand back there.
I've come across this attitude quite a lot though my work in the public sector. And i find it greatly annoying when in one breath people will attack every facet of a country and in the next demand benefits and special treatment.
But Major Moose, at least you have an appreciation for this country. Perhaps your example can serve to alter their opinons, in time.
Sonne
Exactly. It's so damn easy to criticise. But your criticism is so much more valid when you know about the subject. For example if I said that I thought Tony Blair was really ****ing up in running the country, my opinion would mean little because I know little about politics. All I know is that he's doing better than I could.
going grey! wrote:I have been saying this for year's, people come to this country for a better life, and then complain about it, it really p*sse's me off
They come to this country and will never be British because they don't want to be, and they teach thier children not to be British, and go on about how thier home country is better than Britain.
Well I say this, if thier country is so great, ferk off back there!!!
The thing that has got me really mad at the moment is people that come here and commit crime, that really p*ss's me off!!!!.
Talk about biting the hand that feed's you.
THe problem with what I have just written is that it make's me sound like a right wing racist, which I am not. I'm fed up with having to make excuse's for people that don't belong here.
Major moose I wish the best of luck in your career with our armed force's.
Rant over
I agree. England is better than many countries. It's not perfect, but it's still better. My little sister said to me a few days ago that the U.K. and U.S. governments were evil. I didn't shout at her or anything, she's 10 years old. I just asked her to ask her parents why they came to England, if it was worse. It's sad that they seemed to have brainwashed her.
harry hackedoff wrote:I don`t really care Humphs
I, too, was sick of all the western-ness at home so I emigrated twelve thousand mile to the East
You western bastards get on my breasts
Long-time fans of this site will know that we have another female Muslim Member who has shown those of us who know her that there is hope for the future. Of course it`s hard coming to UK from village India or where ever, of course there is reverse rascism. You can`t deny that.
Moose is trying to assimilate here and is telling you what it`s like in her home. What`s it like in your home though? What do you feel when Iraqi women and children are killed and they`re called "Collaterals" because I know how I feel. Or the current issue with the masacre by USMC?
Things are never as simple as they seem.
I'm male by the way. Just think of the fun I'll have in the Army, I could still be optimistic saying that people are going to be like "Oh look, a spy!"
I've lost a few people in war. I lost a friend in the second war while talking to him on the phone. It was only then that I realised that he had become a name, almost nothing more. I hadn't seen him for years. I was going to go see him. I saw his body, and it's a nauseating experience, to see a body, and think "Is that him?" as it's barely similar to how he looked.
The same goes for my family. I've not seen my relatives in a long time. I've not even met most of them. I've gone to Iraq three times since the war, and each time I've been deprived of meeting people I should meet, people who should be a part of my life. When I learned that a cousin was killed in action while fighting british troops (this is why my parents are hating me) I felt that I had just lost a name. It's like when you read a news article, you see the name of someone who has died. Sometimes it's someone you know, sometimes it's just a word, a name.
I don't know if international war protesters can understand the situation in Iraq. I don't like war, f@#k no. I'm joining because I realise there are people who are trapped in war, and they deserve as much help as we can give. But I don't like war. But when anti-war protesters protest against the Iraqi war it's like saying "Leave Saddam there". You can argue that there are other ways... but they don't work. Saddam is a tyrant, a madman. You don't just go waving the white flag in his face, do you?
I know that in the longer future, fewer people will regret this war. I regret it for losing people, but I realise that we're all going to die someday. And a country as a whole could live so much better. If I had to die 'early' so that some people could live a better life, I'd do it.
I respect the protesters. But until they've been to the damn country in question, I don't think they can understand it enough.
Thanks for all your best wishes.
