Share This Page:

  

ANZACS

Discussions about those units who make up the Commando’s.
harry hackedoff
Member
Member
Posts: 14415
Joined: Tue 19 Feb, 2002 12:00 am

ANZACS

Post by harry hackedoff »

Skools down here dont seem to do half term, just er, term. :-?
The kids broke up about three weeks ago and go back on Tuesday, Monday being Oz equivalent of an UK Bank Holliday. ANZAC Day is celebrated tomorrow and they get Monday off.
Still with me so far? Good.
Last day of term, at my FIVE YEAR OLD`S skool they held an ANZAC Festival. Remember we`re talking about kids who are five to eleven, in age. Bit like a a Play Skool version of Festival of Remembrance at times, but several old Digs gave chilling stories. One bloke had been on the Kukoda trail in PNG and was caught by the "little yellow bastards", his description of what that was like left some of the adults pale. Not the kids, of course. They loved it. Especially the graphic descriptions of what you can achieve with an eighteen-inch bayonet on the end of your rifle. Old Digger now bears no mallice, mostly, and drives a Jap car etc. Next up was a serving WO II called Norm. Now Norm was not used to talking to infants and tended to shout, a lot. :roll: He eschewed the use of a microphone as he didn`t need one, with a look that implied microphones are for homosexuals. :o Sarn Mag Norm had them enthralled with his( almost) historical account of the reasons for and conduct of, the Gallipolli Campaign. Apparently the Digs in the ANZAC were there because "England, the Mother Country, asked them to come" This stunned me greatly. Here I was, surrounded by kids mostly under ten, and they were being told by a serving NCO that thousands of Diggers were either killed or wounded because" England asked them to come" Norm stressed the attributes of those first ANZACS, the primary one being "Mateship"

One skool, in one suburb, but according to the old Digs from the RSL, this is fairly typical across the state. Norm was actually very good( I can still mark a lesson :wink: ), and eventually handed over to the Headmaster, or as Norm referred to him, " Les".
Now, Les and Norm carried on like a couple of old mates and again the kids loved it.
The whole thing astounded me. Here were kids, first or second generation Aussie, mostly, or kids like Jack. I.E. White North European. But Jack has mates from Viet Nam, Sri Lanka and Turkey and they were just as enthralled. It wasn`t indoctrination, it wasn`t. They were being taught about the country they live in and it`s values and beliefs.
The whole thing had a profound effect on me and I cannot ever recall a similar event in my whole life, particularly whilst I was at skool.
Perhaps there`s a bit of a clue there. In UK we mustn`t say what England did to Kermit, or what Great Britain did round the world as it " might upset them" Here, they say " Eff of home then. If you don`t like it here and don`t want to join in, then why did you come here?" Pause for thought.

The TV news has been full of the thousands of young Aussies who have made the annual pilgrimige to ANZAC Cove in Turkey, despite Govt warnings not to, because of "terrorist threats" Imagine that. Every year, thousands of young Aussies piss off half way round the globe and for what? Do thousands of young Britons make an annual pilgrimage to anywhere that is culturaly significant in the country`s history? Do they borlocks, and why not? Because they aren`t told about it, or if they are it`s from the wrong perspective.

Well, it`s ANZAC Day termorrer and one of the traditions is the Dawn Service. We, as an Association, are represented at the main Dawn Service in King`s Park, but this year we are responding to requests from the Mayor Of Fremantle for a Royal Marine contingent at the Service on Monument Hill, in Freo.I`m very proud to be going. Don`t know whether to stay up or try and get me heed down, I`m getting up at 0330 local, service starts at 0530 and should complete by 0730. Then Paddy and meself will trough a quick brekky before the main parade kicks off at 0930 with a march through the C.B.D.( Aussie for "town center") Many of the Members of RMA of Western Australia will be taking luncheon at one of the citys finest hotels. Meself and himself will be rat-arsed, by then, with a certain former member of Her Maj`s Royal Australian Navy 8)

On yers, cobs
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
User avatar
El Prez
Member
Member
Posts: 9122
Joined: Sun 24 Mar, 2002 7:18 pm
Location: Truro

Post by El Prez »

Wear yer hat this year!
Enjoy the day Bert, good piece about the Anzac day at school. I wish we had something similar here, but deary me don't frighten the little kiddy winkys, they'll be crying into their hooded tops , getting their ninja knives all rusty. :roll:
You should talk to somebody who gives a f**k.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Robiz/movie_star_wars_yoda.gif[/img]
El Presidente
harry hackedoff
Member
Member
Posts: 14415
Joined: Tue 19 Feb, 2002 12:00 am

Post by harry hackedoff »

Olde Stylee Elmer War Canoe, (steam cat, no-ski sloppey), one "USS Kittyhawk" is in town for a few. Be interesting if`n theys turn up, y`all :roll: Any former DL`s will she-ite themselves :roll: Why hasn`t the Corps ever used Patent Leather boots? :roll:
Fair comment,( k`off `arry, what are you on? :o )
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
Sticky Blue
Member
Member
Posts: 3623
Joined: Tue 18 Dec, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Portsmouth, UK
Contact:

Post by Sticky Blue »

H, Have a great parade and don't forget the photos!

Neck in the back of the collar, arms upto shoulder height, a full pace of 30 inches and kinks out of the elbows.
Drums beating, colours flying and bayonets fixed...
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
harry hackedoff
Member
Member
Posts: 14415
Joined: Tue 19 Feb, 2002 12:00 am

Post by harry hackedoff »

wear yer hat

It`s had a bit of a wipe clean :roll: and that nice bloke at Gold Wire Badge sent me summat to stick on me blazer :P
Honest, Rob, the whole thing about ANZAC Day has two effects on me. One, it fills me with a sense of pride in my adopted country, it`s aims, it`s history, etc, etc and two, it annoys me that UK is not only not doing this, but that our view of why Great Britain is "Great" is frowned upon, because some of the parents might be offended by the display, and might not vote Labour, in future. There`s a bigger picture, here.
Nite to you, darling, Cheers, mate :wink:
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
User avatar
El Prez
Member
Member
Posts: 9122
Joined: Sun 24 Mar, 2002 7:18 pm
Location: Truro

Post by El Prez »

Neck in the back of the collar, arms upto shoulder height, a full pace of 30 inches and kinks out of the elbows.

"Hackedoff"
Sgt Major?
"Yer Necks Dazzling Me"
Itscozits Brass Sgt Major

Arms up to shoulder height is a misnomer in H's case, 3'4" is not regulation shoulder height, even for the altitude challenged; likewise a full Mothercare pace of 18 inches.

And what is he doing with Ray Davies up his sleeve?

Stand easy.......... :oops:
You should talk to somebody who gives a f**k.
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Robiz/movie_star_wars_yoda.gif[/img]
El Presidente
harry hackedoff
Member
Member
Posts: 14415
Joined: Tue 19 Feb, 2002 12:00 am

Post by harry hackedoff »

And nite to you, Sticks :wink:
Jew fink da Oz band come near? Is the Pope a Glaswegian 8)
Nite, girls, 0035 local, Hackedoff out :wink:
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
John_D
Member
Member
Posts: 1308
Joined: Fri 14 Dec, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Widnes Cheshire,UK

Post by John_D »

Hi Bert

Have a good parade, and enjoy what comes after.

Give my regards to my old mate Tom. and tell him
I will contact him soon about his visit.


Image

Aye

John_D
:drinking: :drinking: :drinking: :drinking:
[img]http://www.amazing-animations.com/gif/flag007.gif[/img]
User avatar
JR
Member
Member
Posts: 2392
Joined: Wed 19 Dec, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Boston,(The Original) UK

Post by JR »

:wink: Have a good ANZAC day Bert,going back many moons whilst serving aboard one of HMs war canoes Med fleet,had the privilege of being on the detachment's Guard of Honour at ANZAC Cove on the day,and a very impressive monument it is.

All the best mate and enjoy.Aye JR :wink: :wink:
Who needs the World as your Oyster,When you've had the world as your cap Badge
harry hackedoff
Member
Member
Posts: 14415
Joined: Tue 19 Feb, 2002 12:00 am

Post by harry hackedoff »

Heyup John, I did see Tom and have a nice phot of him trapping :roll: Send me yer e-mail for a copy:wink:

Well, as promised, meself and himself and Paul Patterson rocked up at Freo at Oh My God! Is That The Time :o or 0415 local. Pitch black it was and we were too early. Paddy, ever the optimist said at least we`d get a good parking spot :roll: The Dawn Service is silent for the most part, and I judged the crowd to number at least two thousand when it started. Kings` Park has over thirty thousand. The Service is timed to finish as the first rays of the sun break the horizon. Varied crowd, but most were young, twenties or so. Many had young kids with them. There was a solemnity about them and a dignified silence throughout. Kittyhawk was easilly visible( tied up just outside the Flag, Jim :wink: ) and I could hear the odd pipe but not quite make out the words.
Four young lads from the ADF were marched on as Cenotaph Sentries with the usual bimble that I have come to know as Oz Army drill. Weapons slung over their backs doesn`t quite have the same impact as "Rest on your arms, reverse", but that `s my only critisism. I thought the stripey whispering the words of command was reffering to them as the "Catapult Party" till it was light enough for me to make out the words on the Service. Cataphalk Party. What`s a cataphalk? Is it the posher version of catacomb? Then it was ditch the flowers time and we could just about make Paddy out in the gloom. Paul and I exchanged hushed expletives as we both clearly saw him place the wreath, step back, pause and then salute like a Matelot :roll: Obviously, I kept this to myself and didn`t chide him for this act of forgetfullness or in any way take the piss. Er, well maybe just a little. Haw Haw Haw :P
We found Paddy after the Service and the sunrise was fantastic. We met a former Irish Guardsman, called James, and ofered him a lift to town for brekky. Oh no, says he. Aren`t you going to Legacy? Puzzled looks from Royal and James explained Legacy is Aussie equivalent of SSAFFA, and for the last seventy-five years have provided rum and milk at their gaff in Freo. Who are we to stand in the way of tradition 8) Rum and milk is an Aussie Army drink, rather like wobbly coffee and probably for the same reasons :P We gave the milk a miss, though, and had "several" large rums, before heading into Perth. We would`ve sorted a cafe out for brekkers but James(who was taking on the mantle of our ANZAC Day Mentor) said not to. Nine dollars buys you brekky at the RSL he said. What he didn`t say was that the place was full to overflowing, by 0730, of shit faced former and still serving Australians. They`d spread outside ANZAC House and were taking up half of the double carriageway outside. Just as we landed, one of the biker gangs of former servicemen rocked up. The Veterans Moror Cycle Club look exactly like Hells Angels, but are a bit more sociable :roll: Brekky was "adequate" in the way that bad galley breakfasts are, but I`v gotten used to sliced orange and strawberry garnish next to me roma tomatos dry cured bacon, shi take mushrooms and Latte. No latte for us, but Aussie Pusser does make the same tea!. Then it was straight on the rum, Bundy, not Pussers, and I did take a tot or five, with me doc( was tempted to remind him of our recent fingering event, but thought better not to :oops: ) before we both thinned.
09 30 was endex at the bar, for us keener members and we moved out to K Block, 109 which was our form up point for the march. This was the first time we`d seen any of our blokes and they asked us about the Service at Freo and how did it go etc. By now I reckoned I`d had five pints and at least twelve rums, I kid you not. 0945 and I thought we`d be getting a rest from the sauce, but oh no sir :o Battle of the hip flasks started :roll: First of many sippers of the genuine article. :wink:
Parade started for us at about 11 15 as we were near the back and not a surprise as to who was the best turned out and smartest marchers. We kept in step the whole way round and DL, Gordon Norton was brills! The crowd clapped like loons when he gave us the "Royal Marines, Mark Time"
When we passed the ANZAC House, several younger members, including one Symesie, legged it from the bar, where they`d been watching Royal`s progress on the telly, and jumped on the rear! That`s the spirit, Royal :P As we passed the dias, I caught General Wassisnames` eye "Cheers, Lofts" says I, and a big wink :wink: Big wink back, and one of the Military Attaches shouted "Cheers Royal" I think they got the picture as to who we were 8)
Post parade Service descended into the usual political point scoring, so a rapid thin outers was called for, half the boys went to the Kings for lunch, and the other half bomb-burst across Perth to spread Bootneck charm and good humour :roll: Paul, Paddy, Jimmy Rae, several green hatted Perce and your humble scribe, headed for the Chateau Shitfaced and spent the afternoon with Para Reg. :oops: Don`t start. Some of my best friends etc etc. Elmer`s finest were using the gaff as a flop house/whore house and we did have speaks with several. Some could do with a sense of humour implant, though :P
Fantastic day, all together, not one to repeat in a hurry. I can`t remember when I last had this much alchohol in a week, never mind a day. Paddy and I caught a taxi and as he dropped me back home I was totally effing ratters :P
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
User avatar
JR
Member
Member
Posts: 2392
Joined: Wed 19 Dec, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Boston,(The Original) UK

Post by JR »

:drinking: So you had a good day Harry.Many thanks for the sitrep and as usual very informative Cheers Mate.Aye JR :wink: :wink:
Who needs the World as your Oyster,When you've had the world as your cap Badge
John_D
Member
Member
Posts: 1308
Joined: Fri 14 Dec, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Widnes Cheshire,UK

Post by John_D »

Hi bert
I'm pleased to see everything went fine, ( oh me head say's he )
Glad you met up with Tom. I will send my address by PM.

I will probebly get the ausie side of it soon,fron A friend in
Berkley NSW.

Catch you later

John_D
[img]http://www.amazing-animations.com/gif/flag007.gif[/img]
harry hackedoff
Member
Member
Posts: 14415
Joined: Tue 19 Feb, 2002 12:00 am

Post by harry hackedoff »

Heyup, :wink:
Four long years ago and we were New Australians. :roll:
We`d been here less than two years and were counting the days till we would become Australian Citizens.
We were still embracing the culture of our new country as immigrants.
Fully immersing ourselves into life in this country instead of wanting to change it into a version of where we came from.
The opening post was about how I was ( and remain )genuinely amazed by the way this country is so proud of what it is and where it came from that even a small local primary skool gets a visit from a serving WO II and a few old Diggers. 8)
ANZAC Day is tomorrow and we`ve had at least a two week beat-up on most tv networks. All of WA is talking about how they will spend the day. Thousands will turn to for the Dawn Services in all the country towns like Wagin, where sixty four men never came back from the Great War from a population of less than two thousand. Local historian has been on local telly and ABC radio telling the story of how he tracked the location of all the graves. People are fascinated by this in a way which has long since ceased to be so, in ukers.
And that saddens me.
UK has a proud history which is being actively denied, and that is wrong.
Shove political correctness up your effing hoop, no offence :-?

Many moons have passed and many buffalo and I`ve done two Dawn Services at Freo and one down in Mandurah since then.
Tomorrow I`ll be chucking the flowers at the State gig in King’s Park.
I`ll be there from 04 30-ish to watch the big screens till about 05 30 when the Service actually begins. The whole thing is silent from the time the Sentries take post till way after the laying of wreaths and the atmosphere is incredible.
Then, it`s ANZAC House for me, me lads, where a large rum has my name on it! :P
The Parade itself, kicks off at 09 30-ish and once that`s complete and we`ve de-rigged and returned stores, we’ll retire to a position of safety with elements of Two Para for more than a wet or three. 8)




I will do a few phots if I`m not shite-ers tommozzer, especially for MadMick :wink: Won`t be following in your footsteps mate, as I`d wanted. They`ve changed the flipping route 8) Bastards :(

As a P.S. Last year, Red and Green Mean Machine were quietly sinking a few when local submariners dropped in. This is our bar fork off, they said. :o
Imagine their surprise to find themselves covered in blood and snot sat on their arses in the street outside 8)

Not that one would ever condone violence, etc. Chinese Flame attendants, excepted :-?
[url=http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/groupcp.php?g=397][img]http://www.militaryforums.co.uk/forums/images/usergroups/listener.gif[/img][/url]
anglo-saxon
Guest
Guest

Post by anglo-saxon »

H: Enjoy. Have a good day!

Will you actually make it into yer pit prior to revielle, or do you pull an all-nighter?

A Vigil is always mounted by my unit in Calgary at the main senotaph at Centenial Park on ANZAC Day for the local ex-pat Diggers.

I'll be hoisting one in abstentia!
dubrat
Member
Member
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri 04 Apr, 2008 1:12 am
Location: Brisbane Australia

Post by dubrat »

Nothing better than rum and milk at 4:45 am

It was a great day is Brisbane
Post Reply