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yuri
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Royal Navy Officer
How hard is it to become an officer in the Royal Navy? Is it like thousands of applicants for a few positions each year? I am not posh at all, i didn't go to a public school and i have a scottish accent! Will these terrible flaws in my personality severely diminish my chances of becoming an officer in the Royal Navy. After all it is the 'Royal Navy' not the 'Commoner Navy'. Also i don't have a university degree, but i do have very good highschool results (5 highers and 8 standard grades). Any feedback is much appreciated.
it depends on what you want to do. anything of a technical nature will require a uni degree in the relevent subject to be taken seriously, pilot -well say no more. the seamanship branch is probably the biggest and therefore easiest branch to enter.
there's still quite a few of the old school matelot pigs around that tend to look down on all concerned and expect everyone else to run around and make their life easier, although these are becoming rarer.
your accent shouldn't be too much of a problem, the british forces are finally getting the message that its not where you come from that matters - but where you are going.
there's still quite a few of the old school matelot pigs around that tend to look down on all concerned and expect everyone else to run around and make their life easier, although these are becoming rarer.
your accent shouldn't be too much of a problem, the british forces are finally getting the message that its not where you come from that matters - but where you are going.
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yuri
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the problem with the way the RN recruits pilots is that they are all trained on rotary wing first, then once you have done that for a few years you can apply for harrier. consequently everyone who wants to be a harrier pilot in the RN has to be a helo pilot first, those who fail as a harrier pilot can still continue as a helo pilot. add to this the fact that the RN has very few aircraft to begin with and you can soon see that the number of applications will far outway the vacancies.
So to make the selection process more manageable the RN imposes lots of restrictions on who can apply in the first place, i.e. 20/20 vision, 1:1 degree etc etc. I was once told by a harrier pilot that you can be as thick as a brick and still be a good pilot, but all the qualifications were there to keep application numbers down.
however if you want to be a pilot i'd still give it a go.
So to make the selection process more manageable the RN imposes lots of restrictions on who can apply in the first place, i.e. 20/20 vision, 1:1 degree etc etc. I was once told by a harrier pilot that you can be as thick as a brick and still be a good pilot, but all the qualifications were there to keep application numbers down.
however if you want to be a pilot i'd still give it a go.
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yuri
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I read somewhere that the BRNC only intakes 6 to 8 pilots 6 times a year.... that about 48 pilots max per year! I am sure there would be hundreds of applications for those positions if not thousands. I don't have perfect vision so i have no chance i realise now. Thanks for the realisation though. Is a shame. Can you recommend any roles as a RN officer that are exciting and fun but that are also easy to get into and that don't require perfect eyesight. Thanks.
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If you want to be a pilot I'd recommend going for the crabs, after all there's far more of them!!
About your accent, what's it like?? I've got a really odd one, originally from Durham (until I was 11), had quite a northern accent, though not full blown as me mother was raised in Trinidad with 'proper' English accent (as in posh, but without the poshness, if you see what I mean); lived in Kent for 8 years, so I've got an odd mix, I've had people ask if I'm from all over the world, Oz, New Zealand, America...I'm sure I don't sound like any of those, but I speak really weird now!!
About your accent, what's it like?? I've got a really odd one, originally from Durham (until I was 11), had quite a northern accent, though not full blown as me mother was raised in Trinidad with 'proper' English accent (as in posh, but without the poshness, if you see what I mean); lived in Kent for 8 years, so I've got an odd mix, I've had people ask if I'm from all over the world, Oz, New Zealand, America...I'm sure I don't sound like any of those, but I speak really weird now!!
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yuri
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What it comes down to is the old Enlgland V Scotland attitude. Most of the officers in the RN at the AIB will probably be posh english wa*ks and won't look to kindly upon a scott applying for their position of power. The problem is all over the country, in some towns in Scotland the locals will beat you shitless if your english and vice versa in England. It would be interesting to know the percentage of scots and english in the Royal Marines.
I obviously cant speak for every town in England but Im pretty sure the English dont hate the Scots as much as the Scots hate the English, I for one am never bothered by the Scots but the Scots seem to hate us, understandibly (is that a word?) so.The problem is all over the country, in some towns in Scotland the locals will beat you shitless if your english and vice versa in England
Anyway back to the important point, I have never encountered any accent problems, its seems that as long as your capable of speaking to people and can be articulate with, it doesnt matter how you say it. I have a slight Black country accent but I can speak quite well, its just a matter of training yourself to speak differently in different company.
This really does infuriate me. A correct answer to this debate would be The english hate the scots more, but thats just pure numbers 55million english to 5million in scotland, clearly there are more idiots in england, however such an argument is frivilous and not the point of my post!
First a little background. I was brought up on the east coast of scotland, having completed school there, i decided to go to university in Leicester as it offered the course i wanted to do and was the best of the 5 universities (in my opinion) that ran the degree. I have now spent seven years here in leicester (and have actually fouind the people here the worst drivers and most ignorant people ive met, but i digress) and have travelled the country (by that i mean the UK!) and met and become friendly with people from all over the world... (except South America, but including Antarctica!) so i feel i have a very broad scope on things when it comes to inter continental relationships.
I was perusing the forum as i have an AIB around September and therefore not really needing to post anything. It was only when i read this thread and the last two postings in particular that i registered.
The old 'English vs. Scottish' has been done to death, and in truth there generally really is no major problem, except from those who are either ignorant of the other country (ie no experience/never been there) or are complete wan*ers with a complex and feel they have something to prove!
There is no one GENERAL population that hates the other more and it is actually (in my experience) this kind of attitude that causes problems.
Person A THINKS person B hates him, so person A steers clear and doesnt give person B a chance. Person B therefore thinks person A hates him and hence stays clear.
Follow me?
The point is, do not EVER think of someone as already hating you without giving them the benfit of the doubt (for example, I had lunch with an Iraqui chap at BRNC the other week, conversation wasnt very engaging, but he had a few interesting points). And dont make statments when you havent seen both sides of the situation. how many scots do you actually know?
on a final note. While at a conference in manchester and after a rather amusing night getting drunk with an italian astronaut, i and 4scottish friends left to catch the bus back to the hostel. I stepped on a bus to ask the driver if this was the correct bus, i got as far as "Excuse me mate, but...." and was cut off by a mancunian (sp?) accent from the rear shouting "F*** off, just F*** off", as he rose and came toward me. Twat with a real problem!
so dont let the arseholes ruin it for the rest of us. The only thing that bugs me about a lot of my english mates is that they tend to think that britain only consists of Enlgand, and when corrected, they say "oh yeah, thats what i meant"
take care peeps and sorry for the long post of ranting.
First a little background. I was brought up on the east coast of scotland, having completed school there, i decided to go to university in Leicester as it offered the course i wanted to do and was the best of the 5 universities (in my opinion) that ran the degree. I have now spent seven years here in leicester (and have actually fouind the people here the worst drivers and most ignorant people ive met, but i digress) and have travelled the country (by that i mean the UK!) and met and become friendly with people from all over the world... (except South America, but including Antarctica!) so i feel i have a very broad scope on things when it comes to inter continental relationships.
I was perusing the forum as i have an AIB around September and therefore not really needing to post anything. It was only when i read this thread and the last two postings in particular that i registered.
The old 'English vs. Scottish' has been done to death, and in truth there generally really is no major problem, except from those who are either ignorant of the other country (ie no experience/never been there) or are complete wan*ers with a complex and feel they have something to prove!
There is no one GENERAL population that hates the other more and it is actually (in my experience) this kind of attitude that causes problems.
Person A THINKS person B hates him, so person A steers clear and doesnt give person B a chance. Person B therefore thinks person A hates him and hence stays clear.
Follow me?
The point is, do not EVER think of someone as already hating you without giving them the benfit of the doubt (for example, I had lunch with an Iraqui chap at BRNC the other week, conversation wasnt very engaging, but he had a few interesting points). And dont make statments when you havent seen both sides of the situation. how many scots do you actually know?
on a final note. While at a conference in manchester and after a rather amusing night getting drunk with an italian astronaut, i and 4scottish friends left to catch the bus back to the hostel. I stepped on a bus to ask the driver if this was the correct bus, i got as far as "Excuse me mate, but...." and was cut off by a mancunian (sp?) accent from the rear shouting "F*** off, just F*** off", as he rose and came toward me. Twat with a real problem!
so dont let the arseholes ruin it for the rest of us. The only thing that bugs me about a lot of my english mates is that they tend to think that britain only consists of Enlgand, and when corrected, they say "oh yeah, thats what i meant"
take care peeps and sorry for the long post of ranting.
