Do any of you realise the war with Iraq in 1991 went so fast due to the fact we had 1 million coalition troops massed against a brigade?
My good friend was in the 82nd Abn. and said they me only one unit that offered resistance and they weren't sure if the shooting was the Iraqi's shooting each other/officers so they called in an A-10 and 30 mikes later the left overs came walking down the road with white flags in hand.
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Gulf War 1/ Aka GW light
Gulf War 1/ Aka GW light
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
The Gulf war didnt go so fast. The groundwar only lasted about 4days but the bombings went on for weeks!
The American military is a load of bollocks! It relies too much on its air force. Without it, the groundwar would have lasted months and thousands would have died.
Same with GW2. One of the main reasons why the Republican Guard didnt make a stand is because it was blitzed with cluster bombs and the lot! They have now learned and spread out, starting a guerrilla campaign in which the American airforce is useless and they can fight one on one.
The war hasnt been won yet. It was inevitable that Iraq would be captured by the US. That was the price which the guerrillas were prepared to play so that they could draw the US in.
The attacks on the coalition troops will continue untill they leave. However, they cant leave untill an Iraqi government and army is created. This is because if the coalition leaves now, the Saddam Loyalists will regroup and a civil war will start. Iraq will become anarchy as loyalists, royalists, communists, islamic extremists, kurds, etc fight.
The Iraqi army wont be up and running for at least a couple of years. Untill then, coalition troops will be attacked continuously.
The American military is a load of bollocks! It relies too much on its air force. Without it, the groundwar would have lasted months and thousands would have died.
Same with GW2. One of the main reasons why the Republican Guard didnt make a stand is because it was blitzed with cluster bombs and the lot! They have now learned and spread out, starting a guerrilla campaign in which the American airforce is useless and they can fight one on one.
The war hasnt been won yet. It was inevitable that Iraq would be captured by the US. That was the price which the guerrillas were prepared to play so that they could draw the US in.
The attacks on the coalition troops will continue untill they leave. However, they cant leave untill an Iraqi government and army is created. This is because if the coalition leaves now, the Saddam Loyalists will regroup and a civil war will start. Iraq will become anarchy as loyalists, royalists, communists, islamic extremists, kurds, etc fight.
The Iraqi army wont be up and running for at least a couple of years. Untill then, coalition troops will be attacked continuously.
The Best Is Yet To Come
The Gulf war didnt go so fast. The groundwar only lasted about 4days but the bombings went on for weeks!
The American military is a load of bollocks! It relies too much on its air force. Without it, the groundwar would have lasted months and thousands would have died.
Same with GW2. One of the main reasons why the Republican Guard didnt make a stand is because it was blitzed with cluster bombs and the lot! They have now learned and spread out, starting a guerrilla campaign in which the American airforce is useless and they can fight one on one.
The war hasnt been won yet. It was inevitable that Iraq would be captured by the US. That was the price which the guerrillas were prepared to play so that they could draw the US in.
The attacks on the coalition troops will continue untill they leave. However, they cant leave untill an Iraqi government and army is created. This is because if the coalition leaves now, the Saddam Loyalists will regroup and a civil war will start. Iraq will become anarchy as loyalists, royalists, communists, islamic extremists, kurds, etc fight.
The Iraqi army wont be up and running for at least a couple of years. Untill then, coalition troops will be attacked continuously.
The American military is a load of bollocks! It relies too much on its air force. Without it, the groundwar would have lasted months and thousands would have died.
Same with GW2. One of the main reasons why the Republican Guard didnt make a stand is because it was blitzed with cluster bombs and the lot! They have now learned and spread out, starting a guerrilla campaign in which the American airforce is useless and they can fight one on one.
The war hasnt been won yet. It was inevitable that Iraq would be captured by the US. That was the price which the guerrillas were prepared to play so that they could draw the US in.
The attacks on the coalition troops will continue untill they leave. However, they cant leave untill an Iraqi government and army is created. This is because if the coalition leaves now, the Saddam Loyalists will regroup and a civil war will start. Iraq will become anarchy as loyalists, royalists, communists, islamic extremists, kurds, etc fight.
The Iraqi army wont be up and running for at least a couple of years. Untill then, coalition troops will be attacked continuously.
The Best Is Yet To Come
What's wrong with that Jon?
Why make it hard for yourself? Decimate them using airpower and you will lose less people on the ground. It's not cheating because we blew the s**t out of them first.
I don't agree at all that it would have lasted months if the air war didn't happen. The night capability of the Iraqis was poor so if you start attacking at night they'll find it hard to really take you on. Also they had a very limited array of tanks that could seriously take on the likes of Abrams and Challenger (T-72, T-80) even if we did have to fight during the day.
The problem the US Army have is a lack of experience and understanding of counter-insurgency ops such as they're now seeing in Iraq. We've been in NI for 30 odd years and it is, in an operational sense, a good training ground. They are also trying to control Baghdad which is by no means an easy task.
The mistake I feel we (yes British as well) have made is in not having a proper plan for after the war has finished. The Department for International Development (so magically headed by Claire Short - thank f**k she resigned) should have had in place much of the people ready to get the place up and running again and so should have the US. The Iraqi people were initially very happy to be liberated but as then as they were without power, water, food and fuel they started to think well we've got democracy but my quality of life has gone tits up.
We need to get the support of the Iraqi people by getting the infra structure right and getting a legitimate govt into place. The US is right in getting the UN involved as they want to leave Iraq with a multi-national force in face.
Why make it hard for yourself? Decimate them using airpower and you will lose less people on the ground. It's not cheating because we blew the s**t out of them first.
I don't agree at all that it would have lasted months if the air war didn't happen. The night capability of the Iraqis was poor so if you start attacking at night they'll find it hard to really take you on. Also they had a very limited array of tanks that could seriously take on the likes of Abrams and Challenger (T-72, T-80) even if we did have to fight during the day.
The problem the US Army have is a lack of experience and understanding of counter-insurgency ops such as they're now seeing in Iraq. We've been in NI for 30 odd years and it is, in an operational sense, a good training ground. They are also trying to control Baghdad which is by no means an easy task.
Yes, but you imply that the guerillas were also the government i.e. Saddam. I don't think there was such a thought out strategy. I expect even Saddam was surprised at how little resistance the Iraqi Army put up. The air strikes you are so cynical about removed all comd and control from the Iraqi government and the head was effectively cut off of their forces and therefore their will to fight. The fact that Saddam was/is alive didn't really matter at the time as he couldn't speak to anyone anyway. Saddam's death is an issue now in terms of 'completion' for the Iraqi people but that's another matter.The war hasnt been won yet. It was inevitable that Iraq would be captured by the US. That was the price which the guerrillas were prepared to play so that they could draw the US in.
The mistake I feel we (yes British as well) have made is in not having a proper plan for after the war has finished. The Department for International Development (so magically headed by Claire Short - thank f**k she resigned) should have had in place much of the people ready to get the place up and running again and so should have the US. The Iraqi people were initially very happy to be liberated but as then as they were without power, water, food and fuel they started to think well we've got democracy but my quality of life has gone tits up.
We need to get the support of the Iraqi people by getting the infra structure right and getting a legitimate govt into place. The US is right in getting the UN involved as they want to leave Iraq with a multi-national force in face.
Await in coming from wholley over that...Jon wrote:The American military is a load of bollocks! It relies too much on its air force. Without it, the groundwar would have lasted months and thousands would have died.
The situation as far as I can see it is tits up, what our troops are fixing is being blown up or destroyed, this is the reason were sending more men out there!!!
lew
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