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POC Royal Marines

General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
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I am applying to be a Royal Marines Officer and I am woried on some things. The first problems is dates, my training for Royal Marines officer for press-ups, sit-ups etc etc is going really well and should do the required amount for the fitness test during this January month. However I have a problem with my running, I keep getting shin splints (posterior) and I think I may have to rest for this month. I can run about 7-7.5 miles an hour. I think I have to rest now cos they don't go away and I don't want to cause any permanent damage. Therefore for a 2008 intake what's the last date for POC, is it possible to do one around May/June time and still join in September?

Would it be helpful if I stopped running and did a diferent exercise this month which doesn't hurt my shins (cross-trainer, cycling)

If people have any hints and tips about shin splints and how to cure them I would be glad to hear it.
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I'm going for the 2008 intake as well. Have you handed in all the forms and been for an interview with a Lieutenant at the Careers Office? If not I think you might have missed the boat as it were for the 2008 entry (this is what I was told by the AFCO - just relaying information). Also, it's been said that I will know for definite if I'm in or not by July after passing (touch wood ;)) the POC and AIB. Doing a POC in June would leave little time for an AIB so I'm guessing May/June will be too late for the 2008 intake.

HOWEVER
Ask your AFCO because I might be talking out of my arse :D

All the best ;)
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...and welcome to MFAT.
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misterpurple wrote:I'm going for the 2008 intake as well. Have you handed in all the forms and been for an interview with a Lieutenant at the Careers Office? If not I think you might have missed the boat as it were for the 2008 entry (this is what I was told by the AFCO - just relaying information). Also, it's been said that I will know for definite if I'm in or not by July after passing (touch wood ;)) the POC and AIB. Doing a POC in June would leave little time for an AIB so I'm guessing May/June will be too late for the 2008 intake.

HOWEVER
Ask your AFCO because I might be talking out of my arse :D

All the best ;)
Its not really my fault if I have missed it for this year, cos I had an interview with my AFCO in September and it was just basic, then he calls me in November and says you haven't done your RT test, PJFT because he THOUGHT I had.

Anyway, I could always go for Engineering Officer as thats what my degree is in. Hopefully I can do the All Arms Commando Course somewhere in the future.
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Post by Mitch »

Welcome to MFAT.
As far as I understand it you do your AIB 2 weeks after your (passed) POC. I might be wrong so the best people to ask are PAGreenwell or Brows. They will most likely get in touch soon anyway!
In terms of your shin splints I'm pretty sure it has been said on this forum that swimming and other low impact exercises will keep you in shape and do relatively little damage. However, I have never had this (luckily!) so I am just relaying information.
Good luck in your application!

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Initial interview - Passed!
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Mitch seems to have the ability to predict the future, something that would be quite useful when the bullets start flying.

Gurpreet -interesting name and welcome

I've been lucky enough never to have had shin splint; and if I have I’ve ignored it and ran on so I would only have had it on a very minor basis. So on advice on curing it I’ll leave to a member who actually knows what he's talking about.

You may think that defeats the point in me posting, however I used the cross trainer a lot before I went on my POC. Probably on a 50/50 basis with running. Therefore I would suggest it to be a great substitute for running, NOT replacing it. But if you can't run I would consider it a good option.
You didn't mention swimming, something that you should think about since it's demanding and no-impact.

Like Misterpurple says you have to have had all your application forms in before Christmas if you want to be considered for the following years batch, so if you haven’t done that good luck with 2009.
Misterpurple, you’re slightly mistaken.
My POC was on the 4th of June (2007) and I believe was the last or 2nd until last one they were running. My AIB was on the 2nd of July and I was going for 2007 entry. The final selection board is sometime in July but you can take the POC and AIB later than you would think. So you should be able to get one in May/June. Just contact your ACLO etc and say you don't feel your fit enough to give it your all and you would like your date moved back.

So as I understand it as it is, you are not in the 2008 batch?

Hope that was of some help.

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POC: 04/06/07 -Passed
AIB: 02/07/07 -Fail, needed more life experience

Intend to re-apply after I have gone to university

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Misterpurple, you’re slightly mistaken.
My POC was on the 4th of June (2007) and I believe was the last or 2nd until last one they were running.
Cheers Brows - I stand corrected.
...then he calls me in November and says you haven't done your RT test, PJFT because he THOUGHT I had.
I didn't think Potential Ociffers were required to do a PJFT? Or medical for that matter :-?
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Cheers Brows - I stand corrected.
Always happy to correct people :D
I didn't think Potential Ociffers were required to do a PJFT? Or medical for that matter :-?
I never had to do a PJFT but I did have a medical. Mainly from a MOD "cover their arse" point of view so I don't have a heart attack on POC, also so they don't waste their time on someone that's not fit for training.

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Gurpreet

Thinking about it, it sounds like your following the selection process for a marine rather than a marine ociffer

Are you sure you’re applying to become an officer?

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I never had to do a PJFT but I did have a medical. Mainly from a MOD "cover their arse" point of view so I don't have a heart attack on POC, also so they don't waste their time on someone that's not fit for training.
I was a bit ambiguous there. I've gone from applying to the ranks (I did the RT tests, medical, interview and PJFT before switching to the dark side), so what I meant was a separate medical i.e. as in the recruit process.

If you don't mind me asking Brows, what did you fail your AIB on?
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Post by davidemmerson »

gurpreet- First off welcome to the forums.

I applied to a Commsssion in the Royal Marines in September and sat my physcometric in October- have you done one of these yet? You are goig to have to complete one of these before you get an interview with a Liasion Officer.

I messed up on mine (not much practice, panicked etc) so I can't reatke it until March so I am in a similar position to you. I am aiming for the 2008 batch as well and was told at my AFCO that it still might be possible BUT I did complete my forms last year- it will depend on when you apply, to be honest mate. Do the forms now and you will have to aim for 2009- it's not as bad as it sounds.

If you do get on a POC and AIB THIS year they will remain valid for 12 months so it might be possible to do them this year and then join up in the 2009 batch.

Anyway, I don't know if this helps or not- if it doesn't then say and I'll get rid of it and save the bandwith!

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Post by gurpreet »

Hey there everyone, I'd just like to say thank you for all your replies. I passed the tests on 18th December and I think I got a pretty decent mark (27/30 on maths). I've done the test before I joined RNR also. My hint on the test is to work as quickly as possible, so if you don't know the answer to 1 question, don't dwell on it and move on (you will find they do not get any harder).

In response to the Officer selection the procedure has changed now and all RM Officer candidates do what is required of Marine candidates (check RM website). I don't really wanna join in 2009 because I just really want a job as soon as possible (short of cash student). My AFCO hasn't mentioned anything about 2009 when he called, he just said we need to get things going ASAP.
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Misterpurple,

Don't mind at all, I enjoy talking about my experiences even if it is the more negative ones.

They failed me on my AIB because it appeared I was lacking life experience.
They were asking me questions like "When have you been in command of a team where they haven't listened to you?... When did you last challenge yourself?...When have you disagreed with a superiors decision and what did you do about it?"
And I was doing my best to answer them with rather mundane situations. Being only 18 (17 back then) it was something I feared due to lack of any real control over that fact.

So that was the main fact or in the Lt Colonels' words (they're bloody high ranks interviewing you) "We're not saying don't come back, just do so after some more life experience."

Fair comment and in later years I’ll probably believe it to be a better decision than had I got in now.
The right decision even if it's not what I wanted.

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POC: 04/06/07 -Passed
AIB: 02/07/07 -Fail, needed more life experience

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Brow, I would like to ask you before you went for POC what were your fitness standards (press-ups, sit-ups etc etc)? And also your running standard (mins/per mile, bleep test etc etc)? I think this would really help in my training and the kind of standards I have to acheive.
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Post by Spence »

Hey Gurpreet.

Regarding the shin splints issue, the best thing to do is go to the doctors and get it checked out. Firstly this will give you a definite indication of whether or not it's shin splints. Moreover, with referral to a physiotherapist and podiatrist you will not only alleviate the symptoms you are experiencing, but also get the bottom of the problem and hopefully prevent them coming back.

If you explain your current situation to you GP you should get a fairly quick referral to the specialists with a very short waiting time (depending on the PCT you fall into in Leicester).

Seriously mate, in the long run its not worth trying to guess what’s causing you pain and correcting it yourself.

Take care,
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