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Annoyed with running threads

Post by 803troop »

Call me a bastard or whatever, but why do so many people on here get hit upon rinning distances?

Everyone's going on about running 1.5 miles, or 3-4 milers . . . blah blah blah.

It's all well and good if you can do these in the times requires, but a much better attitude, I feel, is set yourself a time and cover as much ground as possible.

Set your stop watch to 15/20/25/30/etc mins and push yourself until the stopwatch beeps. Get into the mindframe of training at a high intensity and keep pushing. When it comes to the tests it becomes a lot easier as you are already used to pushing yourself. Your body will adapt.

Just remember to take ample rest/nutrition too.

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Post by MadAd »

Or you could just do some extra exercise in the afternoon or evening?!? :lol: lol.

Just depends on the person, everyones different. The thing i hate is people posting 3 miler times. Is that uphill, downhill, flat????? Try running a 3 miler all uphill and we'll see if you do it in 18.30?!? :x
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Post by Stokey_14 »

A good way of doing it is, running you're 3 miler whilest timing it. That way you push as hard as possible to beat you're PB, then when that circuit is finished and timed, run on until the 30 minuet mark (or even another lap of the 3 mile run) pushing as hard as possible... after a 3 mile best effort this should be more than enough to have you hanging out.

That way you can... to a certain extent track progress and see you're fitness and running time develop, but still push harder that "needed".

I find it to be the same logic as running the toughest route you can, instead of going for the down hill/flat run find all the big steep hills and sprint them, that way when you have to do the 3 miler on PRMC you know mentally that you've done tougher run's and it then becomes less of a challenge and more of a "see how fast I can do it and try and place higher up in the order" type thing.

Being prepared to do what’s asked, and then some is always going to leave you at a advantage. I can also see why tracking time's and performance is important to people so they can actively see improvements.

Find the hardest way of doing something and then make it harder, the original task then becomes easy.

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Post by ferret »

Stokey_14 wrote:A good way of doing it is, running you're 3 miler whilest timing it. That way you push as hard as possible to beat you're PB, then when that circuit is finished and timed, run on until the 30 minuet mark (or even another lap of the 3 mile run) pushing as hard as possible... after a 3 mile best effort this should be more than enough to have you hanging out.
Only problem with that is you should be hanging out after a PB effort anyway. Running a PB and then straight after running ten minutes or so pushing as hard as possible is a very big ask.

Treating a PB run as a race is a good way of doing it. Once a month or so run a 3 mile best effort, but in between never run a PB. Instead train as though that 3 miler at the end of the month is a race; so run fartleks, intervals, long easy runs and 803troop said run times rather than distances in order to "win" that race - by running a faster time than you did the previous month. That way you get all the benefits of running times while keeping that competetive edge you're talking about.
Stokey_14 wrote: I find it to be the same logic as running the toughest route you can, instead of going for the down hill/flat run find all the big steep hills and sprint them, that way when you have to do the 3 miler on PRMC you know mentally that you've done tougher run's and it then becomes less of a challenge and more of a "see how fast I can do it and try and place higher up in the order" type thing.
True. Another way of making runs less challenging mentally is to run long, long runs; even if you go slowly. If you know you run for 1:30 - 2 hours every week or fortnight, then a twenty minute run, even though it's at a much faster pace, just sounds that much easier mentally.
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Post by Stokey_14 »

I agree it is a big ask to carry on running after a PB and you probably wont be able to go very fast... you're perhaps looking at a fast jog/ slow running pace but it is most defiantly possible. Obviously don't expect to PB's in a row :P

As you said A hell of a lot of training is in the mind... so if running long slow run's brakes that block down then of course go for it. It's all discipline and forcing you're self not to stop or slow any more than you're body makes you.

The Plank exercise is a big mental strength builder... I feel like a million quid after holding a plank until failure and smashing a PB and I just keep telling my self in what ever I do (running, plank etc) don't stop until the watch or body say's no.

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Post by misterpurple »

don't stop until the watch or body say's no.
I find telling my body to shut the f*k up helps in beating a PB :lol:
RT: 10th November
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Post by ferret »

Paul_uk wrote: There was one thing that has stuck in the back of my head, which keeps me highly motivated is what a PTI said to us on PRMC ''When the body first begins to tell you to stop and that you've got nothing left to give, is when you've only used up 35% of what you're body is capable off. we want to see those who can use that other 65% today on bottom field''
Taken from this thread. One of the many posts on here that really sticks in my head. And, yeah the plank is a great exercise mentally. Any isometric (static) exercises are for that matter, like staying in the low pushup position for as long as possible.
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