Please help! A fight will happen...

[designervision]

Ok, so there are these people that are going to start a fight with us at school. There is about 50 of them and 10 of us! We really have no chance.

These are the type of people who are wusses by themselves, but with friends and when they out number, they act tough!

The fact that we haven't a chance isnt the point. We will fight for the right to be left alone - getting hurt doesn't scare us, we just want to show them we won't give in and be weak.

The fact that they will start a fight is inevitible, so please don't say try and avoid it. There will be one and that is that.

What I really would like to know, is where is the best place to get them down quick? I mean, I want to be able to go for say the face and get 'em down ASAP. No mucking around or else we really will get smashed.

Please let me know the best way.

Thanks a bunch,
Sam.

[Dangermouse]

Maybe you should do the sensible thing mate and phone the police or speak to someone else about it.

Failing that, walk upto the biggest meanest looking bastard when he if with his mates and break his nose before he has time to react. People like that are generally the same type who give shit to bouncers outside of clubs than bail at the first sign of danger. If the big mean looking bastard does react, go for the bollocks.

but ego aside, phone the police.

[Brows]

Simple, you and your 10 mates get undressed, play with yourself until you get an erection, pull your best war-face then all of you run straight into the melee.
No matter how many of them there are their not likely to hang around.

Brows

N.b I am not responsible for any action inspired by this post.

But on a serious note, call the police or teachers at the school. Doing that sort of thing is just stupid and you will look back on it and feel a right one. Hopefully not from a hospital bed.

But if you have to fight, like the other chap says go for the ringleader.

[xcj]

Failing that, walk upto the biggest meanest looking bastard when he if with his mates and break his nose before he has time to react. People like that are generally the same type who give shit to bouncers outside of clubs than bail at the first sign of danger. If the big mean looking bastard does react, go for the bollocks.

but ego aside, phone the police.

I second that notion, forget being a hero. A good boot to the teabags will guarentee he goes down.

[Paratrooper01]

designervision,

Pay for my flight to NZ and i will give them all a one-way ticket to the guns show and show them who is the daddy

Failing that, you and your mates are all 5 men on the day of the fight. You'll be fine.

[AJtothemax]

Ok, so there are these people that are going to start a fight with us at school. There is about 50 of them and 10 of us! We really have no chance.

These are the type of people who are wusses by themselves, but with friends and when they out number, they act tough!

The fact that we haven't a chance isnt the point. We will fight for the right to be left alone - getting hurt doesn't scare us, we just want to show them we won't give in and be weak.

The fact that they will start a fight is inevitible, so please don't say try and avoid it. There will be one and that is that.

What I really would like to know, is where is the best place to get them down quick? I mean, I want to be able to go for say the face and get 'em down ASAP. No mucking around or else we really will get smashed.

Please let me know the best way.

Thanks a bunch,
Sam.

Please keep in mind that this is just my view and what i have done when i was in school: If you have tried other things like 'tell the teachers' and informed your parents and done the necessary 'right' thing and it still carries on then you have no other choice.

If you're being picked on - FIGHT BACK!

This is how bullies always win, because no one stands up to them. The second one of them gets aggressive towards you or you really feel threatened, apply violence and if you can get away, then do so.

You cant always run and 'tell the teachers' because life isn't like that at all! Im not saying that standing up for yourself will make it stop, it did for me but it might not for you. The best it will do is let them know that if they do attack you, they're going to get very hurt doing so - so its more of a deterrent.

You are a punch bag for no one!

Take care. All the best.

[Chas]

Speak to your school authorities. Also inform the Police
school liaison officer. Do NOT attack or provoke anyone.
Only act in self defense. If you can film any act of aggression
against you it can be used as evidence on your behalf.
As a former colonial police officer in one of the toughest forces
in the world I advise you to use minimum force to achieve your
aim. In dire emergency remember these attack points. Groin,
knees, shins, elbows, wrists,bridge of the nose and adam's apple for
chop. V to eyes and very lethal heel of hand at angle fast to the
side of the jaw. If you kick do not deliver it direct. Do so at an angle
so if your attacker catches your boot you can roll away safely.
I repeat this is for defence only and hopefully you are mature enough
to understand this. Even better just avoid the trouble makers by going
by another route. You don't want a record which will prohibit you from
serving in HM forces.

Chas.

[riflebutt]

Watch out they don't have knives or anything mate. If they are just leg it.

Jamie

[ali_hire]

The fact that they will start a fight is inevitable, so please don't say try and avoid it.

Why not? Avoidance is your best option. If you fight one of two things will happen;

1. You will get beaten up.
At best this will hurt, you'll be the talking point of the school for the next few weeks and they'll keep targeting you. At worse you will visit the hospital or the morgue. Think I'm being OTT? People have died being pushed over and hitting their head before now.

2. You will beat them up.
Great! You might be thinking. But this will probably mean that you will be punished by your school (regardless of whether you started it or not - trust me, I remember getting in trouble for defending myself when I was there. They don't care who threw the first punch). Punishment could be as serious as getting suspended or put on report. How will that look to your AFCO?
IF you fight and win you might also be the unlucky one who accidentally kills someone with an unlucky punch or shove, OTT? It can happen.

Fighting is not big or clever. I'm not saying that you should back down and not defend yourself but it's so risky that walking away is certainly your best option IMO.

Like others have said tell someone about it (authorities over teachers IMO) or you could end up a statistic.

[Illustrious]

Ive gotta agree with ali_hire on the bit about getting punished, I got into a scrap once and because of the kick boxing I did, he got battered, I got excluded for 3 weeks. 1 week for each rib i support, jk. But end of the day, it's not worth it, run when they're in the group, they won't start when alone, they'll hang their head when they see you.

problem with society today is mob mentality, no one will fight alone anymore except some of more old school lot.

[jabcrosshook]

I have to agree too, fighting isn't the answer.
I can remember last year on the news a man died, he went outside to tell some yobs to get off his car and got a single punch to the head, which killed him.
The human body is more vulnerable than what people think.

[AJtothemax]

I have to agree too, fighting isn't the answer.
I can remember last year on the news a man died, he went outside to tell some yobs to get off his car and got a single punch to the head, which killed him.
The human body is more vulnerable than what people think.

Yeah, well these yobs are only human too, they will feel pain so just remember that. This is exactly why these people keep doing these things, because we live in a society which sh*ts all over the decent people because they're scared of the concequences and bullies exploit this so efficiently and what does the 'decent' person do? Stand there and takes it!

Police do sod all to prevent these things, this is why we are seeing so many mature adults being murdered! Because no one stands up to these f*cking yobs the way they should be delt with! Its a complete joke. They report these yobs to the police and they do nothing until something like a murder happens. I should know, i live in an area full of them. What kind of an example are we setting by allowing skum like them to get away with this? The law in this country doesn't protect the innocent people anymore, because its too much paperwork and no one really cares. I obviously cant say every police officer is like that but the whole system is a joke.

It p*ss'es me right off.

Anyone who is going to try and tell me any differently should go to these areas and see for yourself, and then try and tell me that you wouldn't want to fight back or do something about it. If not, then you need a serious reality check and wake up to the world we live in today. These people thrive on our understanding and that they're driven into these things. Most of the time thats just an easy excuse. They're a complete mockery of everything and anything that is or was decent about this country.

They hold no second thoughts or remorse about what they do, going around ruining peoples neighbourhoods and families. Why should decent people have to stand and take that from them??? They shouldn't have to! But yet we're seeing it, every day i'll see on the news, something related to all of this, and how does the news report it - in the worst way possible and they make it seem like these people are unstoppable when really, they aren't at all. They're actually nothing in the big picture.

These nasty people should get exactly the same in return, let them suffer, every single one of them and show them that we as a society wont stand for it anymore.

[SNiDE]

I agree with you 100% AJ; can our police force, or we ourselves, really not outwit a bunch of shit-thick teenagers? Is our legal system so inept that morals, standards and safety that people have died for can be allowed to slip away due to the mistakes of the incompetent few at the top?

edit: please excuse thread hijack and the soapbox speech, but it's something that makes alot of people angry

[riflebutt]

Great post AJ, agree with ya 100%.

[Mr_Kiwi]

gidday mate, Im in para01's boat, get me a ticket back there.

NZ schools are very tough on bullying, so do the right thing and report it (teachers, police, whoever), who cares if they call you a pussy, at least your unhurt.

Alternatively as has been said either leg it, kick 'em in the ballsack, or floor the big guy.
Similar stuff happened at our school, you'd get a load of the smack talkers and drop kicks teaming up to take out their frustrations on a smaller group of people. we had one incident when about 20 decided to have a go with my group of mates, unfortunately for the large group they forgot one of my mates had just got back from hockey and still had his stick. 2 broken arms later the big group had gone.

If you do end up fighting try and get it going in a public area with witnessess and make sure not to do anything stupid like taking a weapon.

EDIT: also as has been my personal experience, NZ bullys are pretty tame. I had 6 gang up on my one night in a park (hmm sounds a bit R18 doesnt it..) i decided to not bother fighting back as it would have spurred them on. I just got punched in the face twice and ended up with a bloody nose, nothing worse than getting hit in the face with a soccer ball. so if they do catch you by yourself say walking home from school, try just telling them you dont mean to annoy them etc... and then if they start attacking either leg it or take the beating.

On that note obviously try and stay on busy roads when commuting to and from school as they wont do anything in the public eye.

Cheers, and i hope nothing happens mate.