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PRMC 3Mile Run Times Changed?

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MY AFCO told me that the 3 mile run time on PRMC has been changed to 23 minutes now. Its a 12.30 minute troop run for 1.5 miles then best efforts back home? Is this true or was she wrong? Apparently its because too many people were failing it.
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maritime_marine wrote:MY AFCO told me that the 3 mile run time on PRMC has been changed to 23 minutes now. Its a 12.30 minute troop run for 1.5 miles then best efforts back home? Is this true or was she wrong? Apparently its because too many people were failing it.
Please dont bite my head off for this but i really hope not. :-?
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Its true. 1.5 miles run at an easy pace but 1.5 miles run at 100% effort. I'd say that the 1.5 mile sprint is harder than doing the whole 3 miles at an average pace. About 3 people failed that on mine.

I think it was a good idea because candidates were being failed before even getting to the real determination tests which its all about really (bottomfield, gym test 2). Thats where most lads give up on.
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Stinky is on this weeks PRMC im sure he will post as soon as he is back to let us all know, its only an extra 30 sec anyway.
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I went on a RMAD today and we had 2 marines from lympstone taking us for the phys. One was a PTI, the other PRMC staff.
he told us we done the day as if it were day 1 of PRMC and the run was done the same pace... this was 1.5 mile as a sqaud in 12 1/2mins approx then 1.5mile best effort back and im pretty sure it was under 10 1/2 mins.. but he said it had to be under 10 for a fair chance of passing
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Yer that seems about right Fo0qI think that doing it that way is harder than just doing a whole 3miles at a set pace. Your not going to be able to get sub 20 minute 3milers unless you can do a 7.30/1.5miler.
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maritime_marine wrote:Yer that seems about right Fo0qI think that doing it that way is harder than just doing a whole 3miles at a set pace. Your not going to be able to get sub 20 minute 3milers unless you can do a 7.30/1.5miler.
Disagreed, my 1.5 mile time is 7:57 and my 5k (3.1m) is 17:54. Each person is different but i think it's wrong to say you need a 7:30 1.5 mile to achieve a sub 20 min 3 miler.

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JumpFreak wrote:
maritime_marine wrote:Yer that seems about right Fo0qI think that doing it that way is harder than just doing a whole 3miles at a set pace. Your not going to be able to get sub 20 minute 3milers unless you can do a 7.30/1.5miler.
Disagreed, my 1.5 mile time is 7:57 and my 5k (3.1m) is 17:54. Each person is different but i think it's wrong to say you need a 7:30 1.5 mile to achieve a sub 20 min 3 miler.

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ok, i did the math on this. a 1.5 mile run in that time is running at probably just over 19km per hour, with an average mile time of 5 minutes 18 seconds.
19km per hour is a full on sprint for most people. a fairly fit man would struggle to sustain that sort of pace past about a minute.
with your first post you claim a time which is faster then any i have seen and iv known a fair few dog bollox runners. im a bit suspicious really, but hey, if you really can do it, your in the wrong game mate, you should be looking into a career in athletics.

secondly, he is not wrong to suggest that you need a 7:30 1.5 mile to achieve a sub 20 min 3 miler.


the first 1.5 mile is run in 12: 30
therfore the second 1.5 mile must be run in 7:29 or less to achieve a total 3 miles of less than 20 minutes.
12:30 + 7:29 = 19: 59
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19km per hour is a full on sprint for most people. a fairly fit man would struggle to sustain that sort of pace past about a minute.
with your first post you claim a time which is faster then any i have seen and iv known a fair few dog bollox runners. im a bit suspicious really, but hey, if you really can do it, your in the wrong game mate, you should be looking into a career in athletics
7:57 Is totally believable.
As for athletics - My pb 1.5 mile is 7:45 and I used to get thrashed by virtually everyone in the club.

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chris_ wrote:
JumpFreak wrote:
maritime_marine wrote:Yer that seems about right Fo0qI think that doing it that way is harder than just doing a whole 3miles at a set pace. Your not going to be able to get sub 20 minute 3milers unless you can do a 7.30/1.5miler.
Disagreed, my 1.5 mile time is 7:57 and my 5k (3.1m) is 17:54. Each person is different but i think it's wrong to say you need a 7:30 1.5 mile to achieve a sub 20 min 3 miler.

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ok, i did the math on this. a 1.5 mile run in that time is running at probably just over 19km per hour, with an average mile time of 5 minutes 18 seconds.
19km per hour is a full on sprint for most people. a fairly fit man would struggle to sustain that sort of pace past about a minute.
with your first post you claim a time which is faster then any i have seen and iv known a fair few dog bollox runners. im a bit suspicious really, but hey, if you really can do it, your in the wrong game mate, you should be looking into a career in athletics.

secondly, he is not wrong to suggest that you need a 7:30 1.5 mile to achieve a sub 20 min 3 miler.


the first 1.5 mile is run in 12: 30
therfore the second 1.5 mile must be run in 7:29 or less to achieve a total 3 miles of less than 20 minutes.
12:30 + 7:29 = 19: 59
When I was on the Para insight course in November , i did my 1.5m in 7:57 with a 1.5m 'warm up'. I was beaten by a guy that did it in 7:54 and therefore only came 2nd.

A sub 8 minute 1.5m is quite fast but i would be surprised if any marine or para couldnt achieve this, as there are many people that can run this in a much faster time.

I would consider myself a fairly competent runner, but by no means an 'athlete'.

If you dis-believe what i say, feel free to check out the link below and look at the 29th position

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ns.mcnair/ ... kfld07.xls

This was my race time for a league race on Sunday (Markefiled 10k). As you can see, i did 10k (6.2m) in 37:44. Halve this to 3.1m and i would have done it in 18:52. Of course, over only 3.1m, i would have ran a faster pace and would have got a better time than that. My point is, there were 28 others (actually 29 but one was a female, so doesn't get counted in the mens positions) in front of me that were quicker, 1 by more than 5 minutes. This was a 'local' race for Leicestershire clubs only. Non of these people are professional athletes, although some are serious amateur athletes. I am certainly not one of those (I enjoy my beer, curry and chinese too much). :lol:

Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that everyone could do this, just that you don't need to be an athlete to achieve these sort of results.

With regards to your 2nd point, i do now agree after re-reading what was meant. I had previously mis-read it.

Much of what i have written has already been posted on here via my previous name of gravityguy. Feel free to check my previous posts.

I have no need to lie about my ability, there are many people far better than me and that i aspire to be :D

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rc wrote:
19km per hour is a full on sprint for most people. a fairly fit man would struggle to sustain that sort of pace past about a minute.
with your first post you claim a time which is faster then any i have seen and iv known a fair few dog bollox runners. im a bit suspicious really, but hey, if you really can do it, your in the wrong game mate, you should be looking into a career in athletics
7:57 Is totally believable.
As for athletics - My pb 1.5 mile is 7:45 and I used to get thrashed by virtually everyone in the club.

Rich.
Yep, annoying isn't, bloody fit b******s!! lol :lol:

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thisll be harder for me i think as im still gash at running even after training for months. ive only got my 3 miler down to just below 22mins! so thats sumit else to cause sleepless nights. fantastic.

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Doe's anybody know why they test you using that method, of the troop for the first half instead of letting you start and finish at your own pace?
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yep 7 odd minute 1.5 mile is attainable.. one of the lads on the RMAD done it in about 7.40 something but he was like a whippet..

Annoying thing was he stopped twice to do his laces.
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You have to do it like that anyway in one of the first few weeks of training.
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