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Annoying PJFT

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Annoying PJFT

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Hi all, had my PJFT today which I am a bit annoyed at :x , I passed in 9 minutes and 30 seconds which is alright but I could have done much better and was looking for sub 9 minutes. The problem was the treadmill machines they had at the LA Fitness gym in Holborn London didn't go faster than 16 km/h and the gym instructor wanted me to build up slowly to 16 km/h. By the end I was barely out of breath and didn't feel stretched at all, which was annoying when I had psyched myself up to go as fast as I could. I thought it was odd that the machines didn't go faster than 16 km/h and I am sure that I have gone faster than this on other treadmills. Has anyone else had a similiar experience? Will the time I get on the PJFT affect the rest of my application process or is it just a matter of passing or failing?
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Post by Polynikes »

What my AFCO told me was you need to get between 9:40 and 9:20 to stand a chance at PRMC. Anything below it is a bonus. I got 9:17, and my treadmill also wouldnt go above 16.

I have heard that they ask you about your PJFT time during your interview at PRMC... So it's just aswell to get a good time. A good time being sub 9:40. If they ask tell them you couldnt go faster than 16, and name the gym - they probably hear it all the time and there won't be a problem.

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Post by jonno2006 »

its good that you wanted to push yourself and do your absolute best in the PJFT, but you have come away with a decent time mate! the test is a simple pass or fail, and it shouldnt effect the rest of your application as far as im aware, so now just concentrate on passing that PRMC!!
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Post by digitalfreefall »

Most of the treadmills used are limited to 16Kph if you look at board members sigs you will only see a few managed to get <9 min (there local area does not have a LA Fitness and they get to use a Gym that has half decent kit)

A pass is a pass mate and to be honest I dont think the training staff care what time you get as long as you ran as fast as you could !
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I agree with your afco, the times should definately be reduced to 9:30 at the most to stand the best chance of passing the prmc considering that the fail rate is so high.
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I was told if you don't blitz it you won't make it to the PRMC even if the cut off is 10min 45sec which is a ridiculously slow time. You think yours is bad I nearly fell of the treadmill. I hate them with a passion it isn't true running.
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Polynikes wrote:What my AFCO told me was you need to get between 9:40 and 9:20 to stand a chance at PRMC
what a load of drivvel, i stuggle to make 10 mins on the treadmill even after weeks of training i simply cant do it, wether its mental or not i cant get sub 10 mins, nothing to do with my fitness, i did a RMAD before my PJFT and did great on it which is a better indication of PRMC

mate of mine got about 10.20 or somthing and has just passed out a few months ago so...

i rekon your afco were sayin that so youd try to get it under that time

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Post by dwarfy »

Agree with Smudger here, some people just are not fast at running, but they can run, and run, and run. It is not the only indicator of fitness being able to run fast and certainly not a be all and end all of as to whether you,ll pass PRMC or even RT for that matter. Two of the guys i stayed in touch with from my troop that passed out both got crap times on the timed runs early on at CTC, yet they hacked training and got thier lids. Whack some weight on someone, stick them on dartmoor in the rain for 3 days , let them have no sleep and it wont matter whether they can run a 6 min mile or not, it will be down to them wanting to get through it.
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Post by Polynikes »

"i rekon your afco were sayin that so youd try to get it under that time"

Maybe. But to my understanding it is also how they (the AFCO) predict who is likely to pass, and who is likely to fail. But then this may just be my AFCO... And evidently isn't completely accurate...

The point was it was a decent time, and he has little reason to be annoyed about it.
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Post by batess01 »

thats wierd, my local gym has about 15 tredmills, all have a max of 24kmph.
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If you're asked about your PJFT time I wouldn't mention the Gym or why you think you could have gone faster. If 9.30 is enough then it's enough. The DS don't like excuses and statements of what you could have done if this...if that.... will not impress them and it would irritate me. Just crack on - dwarfy has summed it all up.
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Post by Artist »

As has been said many times some blokes are racing snakes whilst other blokes are cart horses able to yomp forever with big weights on their backs. It all equals out in the end as the training teams will get everyone up to the required standard during training.

Just as long as you can hack the various tests and show the right spirit during your PRMC you should be alright.

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Post by ali_hire »

I agree with most of the other statements on here. The time given is 10:45, anything faster than that is a pass. If it's not the time you were after don't dwell on it, forget about it and crack on.

With the exception of the 3 miler, the other tests on the PRMC have no correlation with the PJFT.
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The 3 miler is now run as a squad for 1.5 (practically walking) and then 1.5 best effort so the PJFT is a good indicator of how you will do.
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JCAP3 wrote:The 3 miler is now run as a squad for 1.5 (practically walking) and then 1.5 best effort so the PJFT is a good indicator of how you will do.
ali_hire wrote:...with the exception of the 3 miler...
Not disputing it mate, although I think that road running is vastly different and the competition will push a better time out of you anyway.
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