passive smoking

[ramz56]

hi this will seem like a really paranoid question but ive been spending alot of time in the pub recentlyand the pub i watch the football in is quite smoky, will this be affecting my health at all?

[jay999]

It will affect your health it will have some of the ill affects of smoking. I spend a fair bit of time in the pub aswell but my fitness isn't affected a great deal

[DANTAE]

definantley infact the smoke is more damaging to you than those that are doing the smoking try to stay away from it as much as possible

[digitalfreefall]

Sitting in a room with smokers does have an effect on me and quite often ive found myself with a sore throat the next day !

Thankfully since the smoking ban in Scotland its no longer a problem, not long to go now for England (01/07/07) so you will be able to enjoy a pint in peace aswell !

[euro_andrew]

You have to be surrounded by smoke day in day out to really start affecting your health. (In a noticeable way!)

- Andy

[digitalfreefall]

Weither its in the short term or long term it does have an effect on you, all you need to do is look at whats in them:

Benzene (petrol additive)
A colourless cyclic hydrocarbon obtained from coal and petroleum, used as a solvent in fuel and in chemical manufacture - and contained in cigarette smoke. It is a known carcinogen and is associated with leukaemia.

Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)
A colourless liquid, highly poisonous, used to preserve dead bodies - also found in cigarette smoke. Known to cause cancer, respiratory, skin and gastrointestinal problems.

Ammonia (toilet cleaner)
Used as a flavouring, frees nicotine from tobacco turning it into a gas, found in dry cleaning fluids.

Acetone (nail polish remover)
Fragrant volatile liquid ketone, used as a solvent, for example, nail polish remover - found in cigarette smoke.

Tar
Particulate matter drawn into lungs when you inhale on a lighted cigarette. Once inhaled, smoke condenses and about 70 per cent of the tar in the smoke is deposited in the smoker's lungs.

Nicotine (insecticide/addictive drug)
One of the most addictive substances known to man, a powerful and fast-acting medical and non-medical poison. This is the chemical which causes addiction.

Carbon Monoxide (CO) (car exhaust fumes)
An odourless, tasteless and poisonous gas, rapidly fatal in large amounts - it's the same gas that comes out of car exhausts and is the main gas in cigarette smoke, formed when the cigarette is lit. Others you may recognize are :

Arsenic (rat poison), Hydrogen Cyanide (gas chamber poison)

and a thousand other tasty little treats lie inside !

source: Health Education Authority (UK)

Best thing I ever done was pack in Cigs, saved myself a small fortune and I no longer have lungs like a crisp packet.

[ChrisBell]

defiantly in fact the smoke is more damaging to you than those that are doing the smoking try to stay away from it as much as possible

Let me just say this the smoking ban is a terrible thing to happen anywhere. First off i don't smoke but am against this ban in a big way as its a big infringement on public choice, yet another example of the government trying to live your life for you. The passive smoking may have an effect but only if you are surrounded by it day in day out. Do they ban cars for the pollution they give out(which you inhale as you walk down the street), do they ban alcohol for the amount of accidents and death it causes NO. Why because people should be allowed to control and think for themselves and if it means people want to smoke that's FINE! They could of handled the ban in a much better way like what a lot of pubs did was have a smoking room but now there's no room for anything. Old people in hospices now cant enjoy a smoke indoors, is this what people want? Why don't they hound the tobacco company's for all the shitty chemicals they put in the cigarettes? I used to think the ban was good but when you really think on it its a very slippery slope your on. The most scary thing is people are so intolerant of other people now they think the ban is a good idea. Now i would love to see the population of smokers go down but a ban is the wrong way to do it people can regulate themselves if given the chance and with CONSTRUCTIVE help from the government.

[AJtothemax]

defiantly in fact the smoke is more damaging to you than those that are doing the smoking try to stay away from it as much as possible

Let me just say this the smoking ban is a terrible thing to happen anywhere. First off i don't smoke but am against this ban in a big way as its a big infringement on public choice, yet another example of the government trying to live your life for you. The passive smoking may have an effect but only if you are surrounded by it day in day out. Do they ban cars for the pollution they give out(which you inhale as you walk down the street), do they ban alcohol for the amount of accidents and death it causes NO. Why because people should be allowed to control and think for themselves and if it means people want to smoke that's FINE! They could of handled the ban in a much better way like what a lot of pubs did was have a smoking room but now there's no room for anything. Old people in hospices now cant enjoy a smoke indoors, is this what people want? Why don't they hound the tobacco company's for all the shitty chemicals they put in the cigarettes? I used to think the ban was good but when you really think on it its a very slippery slope your on. The most scary thing is people are so intolerant of other people now they think the ban is a good idea. Now i would love to see the population of smokers go down but a ban is the wrong way to do it people can regulate themselves if given the chance and with CONSTRUCTIVE help from the government.

You're missing the point. You dont NEED to smoke do you? Its just the drug (nicotine) in the fag that makes you want the bloody things.

Most people NEED cars.

[ChrisBell]

You're missing the point. You dont NEED to smoke do you? Its just the drug (nicotine) in the fag that makes you want the bloody things.

Most people NEED cars.

[/quote]

Sorry i think your missing the point people dont need to do alot of things but they do for enjoyment. So what im saying is a ban on smoking is wrong as its a ban on something people do cause they like it and yes people do get addicted but then thats the same with alcohol so do you think alcohol should be banned AJ?

[Mr_Kiwi]

defiantly in fact the smoke is more damaging to you than those that are doing the smoking try to stay away from it as much as possible

Let me just say this the smoking ban is a terrible thing to happen anywhere. First off i don't smoke but am against this ban in a big way as its a big infringement on public choice, yet another example of the government trying to live your life for you. The passive smoking may have an effect but only if you are surrounded by it day in day out. Do they ban cars for the pollution they give out(which you inhale as you walk down the street), do they ban alcohol for the amount of accidents and death it causes NO. Why because people should be allowed to control and think for themselves and if it means people want to smoke that's FINE! They could of handled the ban in a much better way like what a lot of pubs did was have a smoking room but now there's no room for anything. Old people in hospices now cant enjoy a smoke indoors, is this what people want? Why don't they hound the tobacco company's for all the shitty chemicals they put in the cigarettes? I used to think the ban was good but when you really think on it its a very slippery slope your on. The most scary thing is people are so intolerant of other people now they think the ban is a good idea. Now i would love to see the population of smokers go down but a ban is the wrong way to do it people can regulate themselves if given the chance and with CONSTRUCTIVE help from the government.

Okay fair one for some of that.
But what you need to think of is why the hell should I have to inhale other peoples smoke while Im trying to enjoy a pint. Its the simple fact that people smoking near people who arent are making them inhale poison. So if you want to smoke do it outside.

The ban is already in New Zealand and its great, smokers just pop outside for a cig and then come back in when they're done. Its not so much the government trying to run your life as it is the government trying to stop smokers killing other people than themselves.

[AJtothemax]

You're missing the point. You dont NEED to smoke do you? Its just the drug (nicotine) in the fag that makes you want the bloody things.

Most people NEED cars.

Sorry i think your missing the point people dont need to do alot of things but they do for enjoyment. So what im saying is a ban on smoking is wrong as its a ban on something people do cause they like it and yes people do get addicted but then thats the same with alcohol so do you think alcohol should be banned AJ?[/quote]

I knew you would mention alcohol. The difference between alcohol and cig's is that you can enjoy them without effecting the health of others around you. Now obviously thats not entirely trust because it does, things such as mental health and other things, but when compared to what smoking does it is no where near classed as as much of a health risk. How many people who stand next to someone drinking a beer suddenly move away or cough or become uncomfortable because of it? Not many mate. Now, think of cigs, how many people stand next to someone who is smoking and suddenly move away, cough or become uncomfortable? Many.

[ChrisBell]

Okay fair one for some of that.
But what you need to think of is why the hell should I have to inhale other peoples smoke while Im trying to enjoy a pint. Its the simple fact that people smoking near people who arent are making them inhale poison. So if you want to smoke do it outside.

The ban is already in New Zealand and its great, smokers just pop outside for a cig and then come back in when they're done. Its not so much the government trying to run your life as it is the government trying to stop smokers killing other people than themselves

Look what im saying is a outright ban is the wrong way to do it there are other ways. I agree I didnt like inhaling smoke in pubs but lots of pubs had SEPERATE rooms whats wrong with that? Iv been in foreign night clubs where the ventilation has been so good you barely notice the smoke. Also going back to my original post is it right to ban it in hospices where people are going to die but cant have a fag indoors. Also not everywhere is as hot as New Zealand so popping out for a fag in Scotland in winter isn't the best!!!

[ChrisBell]

I knew you would mention alcohol. The difference between alcohol and cig's is that you can enjoy them without effecting the health of others around you.

Well I disagree! How many fights and brawls are down to alcohol which involve lots of people. So you cant say alcohol doesnt affect the health of others when someone gets a broken nose because of a drunken fight.

[AJtothemax]

I knew you would mention alcohol. The difference between alcohol and cig's is that you can enjoy them without effecting the health of others around you.

Well I disagree! How many fights and brawls are down to alcohol which involve lots of people. So you cant say alcohol doesnt affect the health of others when someone gets a broken nose because of a drunken fight.

You didnt read my post did you...

I knew you would mention alcohol. The difference between alcohol and cig's is that you can enjoy them without effecting the health of others around you. Now obviously thats not entirely trust because it does, things such as mental health and other things, but when compared to what smoking does it is no where near classed as as much of a health risk.

[lodgi]

I used to think the ban was good but when you really think on it its a very slippery slope your on. The most scary thing is people are so intolerant of other people now they think the ban is a good idea. Now i would love to see the population of smokers go down but a ban is the wrong way to do it people can regulate themselves if given the chance and with CONSTRUCTIVE help from the government.

Totally agree Chris. I'm also a non smoker but think the ban is ridiculous. It should be up to the owner of the pub if they don't have smoking. If you don't like the smoke don't go in the pub. The same for the people who work there and complain about it, why did they get a job in a pub if they don't like smoke? I hate all this nanny state thing, the government interfere far too much for my liking.

And chris, what you said about the slippery slope is very true, once it's banned in pubs, how long before it's banned in any public place? Like a street. Some people might say "well why should I smell the smoke from someone else's cig?", well thats the same as saying
"I think gays should be banned from kissing in public because I don't like seeing it.

Fox hunting aswell, I'm not a fox hunter either, or know any for that matter, but I don't think that should be banned. It's part of posh tw*ts heritage and they've done it for years. So they kill a few foxes, big deal.