Pushing your comfort zone.

[euro_andrew]

Hey guys I have been training for a while now and still havent really pushing myself to my breaking point or out of my comfort zone.

I push pretty hard during training, but still cant seem to break my comfort zone.

any idea's ?

[gjd1986]

run as hard as you can until your body physically can't go any faster, until the point that you start to slow down naturally due to fatigue, while breathing out your arse.

works for me.

[Worthers Original]

Train within your comfort zone, you'll recover faster and improve faster as a consequence.

Train to failure and your body will eventually do just that, fail.

[euro_andrew]

hmm but the problem I have is some days when I leave the gym or stop trainign I feel guilty as I feel like I havent pushed myself enough.

I want to be as ready as possible for PRMC. I dont want to fail.
Im so determined to pass my PRMC, that I got a job working at the gym working 4 hours a day so that I can get a workout as much as I can!!

My running is steadily becoming alot better im running 6.5 miles every 3 days and for PJFT running 16km's hour for 5 mins, which Im going to start going for 8-10 mins (until I hit 1.5miles).

[digitalfreefall]

Pushing yourself past your comfort zone or "the wall" will be alot easier if you have a training partner.
As said you dont want to be training to the point of failure every day, I always push myself further on the last day of the weeks training as your body has the next day off.

for PJFT running 16km's hour for 5 mins, which Im going to start going for 8-10 mins (until I hit 1.5miles).

Try running the 1.5miles at 15kph and each day increase the speed by 0.1Kph that way you are always running the 1.5 and its the speed that increases not the distance, IMO the way your doing it is alot harder, the phrase "doing things arse over tit" springs to mind

[Worthers Original]

What you need to do is get a fitness programme which is progressive and works towards your defined goals. Set short, medium and long term goals and then start working towards them. You're already doing that with your running so you are actually already doing the right thing.

There's no point thrashing yourself for a couple of weeks only to wind up injured and/or overtrained. Why do you think so many people on here seem to be injured a lot of the time?

If you can steadily build your running up so that you're able to run 5miles in 35minutes whilst staying injury free and healthy don't you think it's worth taking your time to do it properly?

[euro_andrew]

Yeah I guess.

I need to work out some sort of fitness program. Im hoping to pass PRMC by the end of december/ start of january for starting RT end of jan/feb.

If anyone can give me a few tips on a weeks program, it would be a great help! My fitness program is a bit all over the place at the moment.

My current goals are:
Short term - be able to run level 16 for 1.5miles for a good PJFT pass by end of this month.
Mid term - be able to pass PRMC with 50 push ups 60-70 situps in 2mins by the end of december.

I tried to get someone to workout with me, (It really helps if i have someone to push my along) but he was not training for PRMC and was a bit lazy.

[digitalfreefall]

My fitness program is a bit all over the place at the moment.

Stick to the Fitness Schedule in the Green Bible and you cant go wrong mate.

I think this link has the exact same programme.

http://www.mfat.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=813

[Worthers Original]

Have a chat with the instructors at the gym you work at, tell them what you are trying to achieve and the sort of fitness level you will need to achieve. If they're any good they'll be able to make an assessment of your current fitness level and work out a programme to take you towards your goal.

Why such a hurry though, unless there is a specific reason/deadline you have to meet I would suggest going for PRMC when you're confident about your fitness rather than trying to magic yourself fit enough in too short a time.

[euro_andrew]

Im just wana be the best I can be. I dont want to be doing a too easy fitness program and fail PRMC.

the guys that work at my gym are a bit useless. they only use fitness programs to get into the pants of hot girls that come to the gym! lol honestly!.

Anyway yeah..

[Worthers Original]

Im just wana be the best I can be. I dont want to be doing a too easy fitness program and fail PRMC.

Well, if you set goals correctly and achieve them then you will be properly prepared physically. If, for example, you set a goal of running the PJFT in 9minutes on the treadmill @ 16kmph. How are you going to achieve that? Where are you now, what is a reasonable goal to set on your way to succeeding? If running currently at 16kmph for 2.4km is difficult then it is probably better to slow down to a speed that allows you to run 2.4km and then start to build from that point by increasing the speed gradually. Maybe once you are running 2.4km try running a set of 4 X 1.6km @ a speed between your start point and 16kmph.

If the instructors at your gym are knobbers then try another gym or, better yet, your local running club.

[euro_andrew]

I find I get really bored running 2.4km's on the treadmill.

I found running 5 mins to my fastest speed keeps me busy and I enjoy it. Once i have maxed myself out for on the 5 mins run it will then give me the confidence and the drive to push to my maximum 9-10 min run.

I duno if im doing things a bit upside down that way, but I hate treadmills!

[Worthers Original]

I find I get really bored running 2.4km's on the treadmill.

Mind over matter. If you can't stick 15minutes on a treadmill how will you hope to survive 32weeks at CTC?

Set goals, apply yourself. Once the PJFT is out of the way then forget about the treadmill. Join your local athletics/running club. Chat with the coaches, train with the other runners.

[JCAP3]

I find I get really bored running 2.4km's on the treadmill.

I found running 5 mins to my fastest speed keeps me busy and I enjoy it. Once i have maxed myself out for on the 5 mins run it will then give me the confidence and the drive to push to my maximum 9-10 min run.

I duno if im doing things a bit upside down that way, but I hate treadmills!

Gradually push 2.4 km upto 4.8. Takes 20 minutes but it'll get you fit, especially at that speed.

[euro_andrew]

well its something I could definatly build upto.

hm Illl give it a go.