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RMR Scotland Recruiting now

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Who are you?
Are you the type of person that searches for an adrenalin rush, goes running to feel the endorphin rush or goes circuit training in search of the ultimate fitness?

Do you strive to push your mental boundaries, have drive to get up and go but nothing to tame it, or need to feel an overwhelming sense that you are achieving something few others can?

Do you want to train to physically high standards, gain the extra strength of a mental edge and get paid for doing it?

The Invitation
The Royal Marine Reserve Scotland would like to invite open minded individuals with the drive and desire to achieve, to take on one of the most gruelling physical and mental challenges and earn the Green Beret of the Royal Marines.

Play Time
Those that have accepted and earned the Green Beret of the Royal Marines have gone on to train in environments from the jungles of Brunei to the snow covered Arctic colds of northern Norway, gone from the heat blistering sands of the desert to the wild moorlands of the UK.

Depending on their trade, they have sailed from the sky with parachutes, climbed and abseiled mountains, detonated explosives which put New Year fireworks to shame and even travelled on subsidised scuba diving and other adventure training packages around the world. And all this for the price of some of the hardest training in the world.

The Commando Tests
In order to earn your Green Beret all recruits must pass the required commando test, being:

A 9 mile speed a march in 90 minutes.
An endurance run of 7 miles with a 2 mile section of tunnels (including the infamous tank trap we've all seen in adverts before movies).
A 12 mile load carry in 4 hours with a minimum of 55 lbs of kit, but often weighing in at least 85lbs.
The 30 miler where recruits cross 30 miles over Dartmoor in 8 hours.
The Tarzan Assault course where recruits take on a high wire assault course and must then complete the main bottom field assault course together.

These are the main tests along with the final test exercise and the bottom field assault course tests (The Bottom field assault course, 200 mtr firemans carry, 30ft rope climb and a regain on to a rope).

All tests are done with 22lbs of kit and a rifle and require physical and mental strength to achieve.

Recruit Selection
The selection weekend for Recruit Troop 06 takes place over the weekend of the 29th September - 01st October at RMR Scotland's HQ (Glasgow, Govan). Selection will consist of physical tests including the V02 Max Bleep Test (Royal Marines Fitness Test), the Basic Fitness Test (2x 1.5 mile runs), the basic swim test (2 lengths and tread water for 3 mins), a gruelling cross country/ circuit run (to see how much you want it) and an interview with an officer.

There will also be briefs to give an overview of the training. All successful candidates will be invited to then undertake recruit training for their chance to earn the Green Beret.

Location
The locations across Scotland where recruits will be trained are:

RMR Scotland HQ, Glasgow, Govan

And detachments at:

Abereden, Gordon Barracks
Dundee, TA Centre, Strathmore Rd
Edinburgh, HMS Caledonia, Rosyth
Inverness, TA Unit, Gordonville Rd

Training
Training takes place in 2 phases.
Phase 1 (Foundation and basic soldiering skills) is the first 5 months, culminating in a 2 week course at the Commando Training Centre Royal Marine, Lympstone.

Phase 2 (Commando Training) is the second 5 months, the culmination being the 2 week Reserve Forces Commando Course at which those passing all the Commando Tests are awarded their Green Beret.

During these training phases, recruits will attend 19 training weekends (every 2nd weekend) at various training areas across Scotland and every Wed evening (Thurs for Inverness and Aberdeen) - known as a drill night - from 19.30 to 21.30 at their local detachments.

It should be understood that there is very little flexibilty within the training program to miss out many of the required weekends and drill nights, therefore recruits must be commited to the high commitment required by recruit training.

Recruits will need to keep themselves physically fit in their own time so as to progress with the physical levels of training. No recruit training takes place over the christmas period but will do throughout the year.

Pay
Recruits will receive travelling expenses to and from their unit for training weekends and drill nights. They will also receive a Training Allowance to cover any missed meals travelling to a Drill Night.

Drill nights will receive a quater of a day's pay and will be paid once a full day's pay has been accumulated (every 4 drill nights).

Weekends will be paid at a daily rate, normally achieving two and a half days pay per weekend (starting on a Fri night and returning home on Sun afternoon).

A training Bounty will also be paid to all reservists who regularly attend training with the unit. In order to earn the bounty the reservist must complete a minimum of 6 weekends a year, complete a 2 week training package, attempt an annual weapon test and pass required physical tests within the year.

Current training bounties start at £371 for the first year and increase to £816, £1260, £1260 and reaching £1462 in the fifth and every year thereafter.

Joining
Anyone wishing to take on the challenge should see their local Armed Forces Career Office who will explain more details and start the joining process. The AFCO will then arrange for the potential recruit to contact their local RMR Scotland unit to try out at the selection weekend.

Holding Troop
Any person wishing to prepare themselves physically for the Selection Weekend can attend a Holding Troop at their local unit (expected to start from Jun 06). Holding Troop is voluntary where a potential recruit can get physical training and guidance in preperation for the Selection Weekend.

Information

Other information on who the RMR are, what training we do, what the chances of promotion and trade training are and what the Commando tests involve can be found at the following links.

The RMR Royal Navy Site
The Commando Tests
MilitaryForums
Military Fitness and Training

If you have anymore questions then please do not hesitate to PM me or call HQ RMR Scotland at Glasgow Govan.
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Once you've passed your phase 2 and earned your Green Beret you aren't tied down to the training. You can then choose what weekends you want to do.

So the commitment level is purely, what you put in to it is what you get out of it. 8)
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skiffle, in the RMR is there a chance to specialise or train with the Fleet protection group?
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Borisimo wrote:skiffle, in the RMR is there a chance to specialise or train with the Fleet protection group?
There are plenty of chances to specialise within the RMR. The RMR is now pushing for every reservist to gain a specialisation to aid and strengthen the regular Corps.

The following specialisations are available:

AE- Assault Engineer
RO- Recce Operator
S- Signaller
D- Driver
LC- Landing Craft Coxwain
HW- Heavy Weapons (specific RMRs only- Bristol and Manchester Det)
SC- Swimer Canoeist (SBS- Requires all training to be done at Poole)
CIMIC- Civilian Military Liasion

And the following requiring you to be a Cpl or above:

PTI- Physical Training Instructor
SAAI- Skill at Arms Instructor

Also RMR lads can do any full time regular course as long as they can make available the time and a spare place is available.

For FPGRM, you would have to go into a full time service with them to do their training. 8)
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yes the initial tests require you to get better results on average compared to the regs, partly because your first official training weekend is the weekend after PRC.

for my interview i was asked partly about the RM in general and also my hobbies, personal life etc and how id cope with demands of the RMR. They also asked what i knew of the RMR - training commitment but that was about it, they didnt seem too fussed about the reserves aspect.
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Cheers Borisimo,

This is probably a stupid question but do you know how much better? Im not too worried about the running, and I know September is a long time away but im a bit worried about the upper body strength. I understand that good scores in some areas can help balance poorer scores in others but im not sure what the leeway is.

I dont know if anyone knows this but if im hoping to join the Lympstone det, then im assuming the PRC will be held at CTC. Does this mean it will hold almost the same structure as the PRMC?

Have you achieved your lid yet Borisimo or are you in training?
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nope i failed PRC because of an injury and have only really been back in training lately. cant wait for september.

its quite confusing but as i see it they add up all your scores to give you an average score, so if you only got say 30 press ups but you did well on everything else then you'd get let through (i knew a couple of guys that got very low press and pull ups but got through because their 3 miler, swim and other bits were really good.

the vast majority of people got around 50 press ups, 60-70 sit ups and 6-12 pull ups. and virtually everyone got to 11 on the bleep test. i think pull ups are probably the main difference in relation to reg PRMC scores, they expect double figures.

but if you do badly on 2 areas or more then you get into bad news territory like i did :cry:

aim for at least double all the minimum scores on the RM website
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Aim to max out on everything, You have until september which is more than enough time.

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Does anybody know when RMR Scotland's holding troop starts up? I've been told the middle of June - just wondering if anybody has a more specific date?
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GaussianEliminator wrote:Does anybody know when RMR Scotland's holding troop starts up? I've been told the middle of June - just wondering if anybody has a more specific date?
You will need to contact RMR Scotland HQ direct for that. Ask to speak to the PSI-PTI (He's the man in charge of recruit training).

If there is sufficient numbers then it will be run but it is all dependent on numbers that are prepared to turn up. For yourself being in Greenock, Holding troop will be run at HQ RMR in Glasgow (near Ibrox).
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I was told by the OC-Edin a couple weeks ago that we were gonna be having 4/5 guys coming along within the next few weeks to start joining in with us, so i presume Holding troop is starting now basically. All depends on the numbers at each det whether it gets run or not, as Skiffle said.

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