sfat - sf adventure training

[mcadder]

http://www.special-forces-adventure-training.co.uk

does anyone have an opinion about this...

there was a question about this a while ago but there was no public answer, or the answer vanished

[mfat_man]

http://www.special-forces-adventure-training.co.uk

does anyone have an opinion about this...

there was a question about this a while ago but there was no public answer, or the answer vanished

Not heard of this one but there are few sites around. what are you looking for? One place was running a (genuine?) pre selection course for £800!
In this world you generally get what you pay for.

MFAT

[mcadder]

Not heard of this one but there are few sites around. what are you looking for? One place was running a (genuine?) pre selection course for £800!

will definitely have to look into that
£800 quid for a beasting


sfat: I was just wondering who ran it, I have a few (maybe ignorant) ideas which I'll keep to meself, haven't met the lads in question and not the well off business type who's going to book them for a day of whatever it is.

[mfat_man]

Not heard of this one but there are few sites around. what are you looking for? One place was running a (genuine?) pre selection course for £800!

will definitely have to look into that
£800 quid for a beasting


sfat: I was just wondering who ran it, I have a few (maybe ignorant) ideas which I'll keep to meself, haven't met the lads in question and not the well off business type who's going to book them for a day of whatever it is.

Is it for Coporate events/journo training, that sort of thing? When I was more involved with MFAT I was looking at ruunings some pre-mob courses with a RM/21 chap. Never took off, but to get quality people involved it all costs a price!

[Sarastro]

I may well be wrong, but my bullshit sense is tingling. That site has scam written all over it, especially the various wild promises they make, rather high cost, and the easy target they pick (you can get corporate morons to pay millions to consult on changing their name, £800 for 'teambuilding' is a pittance).

Furthermore, I looked hard for about 10 minutes to find out, like McAdder said, who is running it, but found only this:

Due to the Data Protection Act, Official Secrets Act & protection of the identity of our team we cannot disclose specifics. Needless to say that you will be trained and coached by time served Current/Ex-Military Personnel! [Ave age of Directing Staff/Instructors is 29]

Aside from rubbish about OPSEC, how many SF have joined, trained, passed selection, served their time, and left by 29, let alone younger? And how many currently serving soldiers are allowed to have a second job coaching fat wannabe-macho City types? That particular course looks like it's a scam run by walts to me, apologies to anyone concerned if I'm wrong.

[Doc]

Well I ordered their Medic CD thingy off ebay after it was pointed out to me by H_N, it arrived, a dodgy looking copy with "SFAT MEDIC" in black marker on the top and in a see through case (no logo, no images nothing) cost me £1 plus £2 postage, put it in laptop and fark all happened, tried a few times and fark all happened. Waste of £3 quid.

Bunch of w4nkers.

£800 for a selection course!!!!! Pack a bergen, drive to storey arms, spend a month running around the fan, then rob a shop with a mock weapon and spend two weeks up the Elan Valley being hunted by Armed response, then tell them your Al Queda and spend a week in a high Security Police station getting interregated, then pop into your local army Navy store buy a sand lid and a badge and throw it at yourself saying "well done old chap".

If you want I'll shout at you for £200 quid along with it.

Or just call 21 and they'll pay you to do it.

Or Join up, serve 3 years as a chef in the really large corps, chit in, pre-selection, selection, jungle, continuation, badged, probabtion, leave, civvy security on a grand a day, book, retirement. Dont forget your puffer jacket and light sabre.

[Chappy]

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[mfat_man]

£800 for a selection course!!!!! Pack a bergen, drive to storey arms, spend a month running around the fan, then rob a shop with a mock weapon and spend two weeks up the Elan Valley being hunted by Armed response, then tell them your Al Queda and spend a week in a high Security Police station getting interregated, then pop into your local army Navy store buy a sand lid and a badge and throw it at yourself saying "well done old chap".

If you want I'll shout at you for £200 quid along with it.

There are some scary people out there who will beast for nothing I don't know if the £800 figure is true I only got the info 2nd hand.

But if you were going to get the "right people" involved thenwhy would they do it cos I presume they are already in highly paid work in BG or the like?

[letsrole]

It seems a load of bollocks to me. Aside from the fact that they could no way fit all of that in in one day, it won't even tell you whos running it, and if I was paying like £400 I would want to know. Like learning the correct helicopter drills for insertion (would take a day at least!), learning how to make safe your rifle, tatcis, explosives, radios... and the rest!

[mcadder]

Well I ordered their Medic CD thingy off ebay after it was pointed out to me by H_N, it arrived, a dodgy looking copy with "SFAT MEDIC" in black marker on the top and in a see through case (no logo, no images nothing) cost me £1 plus £2 postage, put it in laptop and fark all happened, tried a few times and fark all happened. Waste of £3 quid.

Doc: can send you a list of files on that, don't get too excited though...

£800 for a selection course!!!!!

I'd think about 800, but I'd demand to have the crap beaten out of me in interrogation, it's only fair

[mfat_man]

It seems a load of bollocks to me. Aside from the fact that they could no way fit all of that in in one day, it won't even tell you whos running it, and if I was paying like £400 I would want to know. Like learning the correct helicopter drills for insertion (would take a day at least!), learning how to make safe your rifle, tatcis, explosives, radios... and the rest!

Correct and what about things like public liaibility insurances and other business expenses, at £200 doc sounds very cheap! I don't know if the £800 was one day, a weekend a week? who knows? Like I say if you had the right people and punters there must be a market. There was also another company in Wales offer an e/e style weekend for £150.

Let's face it most exs would want to get into the corporate end of things where the money is, but they would not want a real selection course and the pain it entails, right? LOL!

[Doc]

Doc: can send you a list of files on that, don't get too excited though...

Thanks for the offer. I ordered it as Im sometimes intrigued by these pseudo SF types claiming to sell gen medic type stuff. Usually it amounts to RMA level first aid training with lots of rhetoric about what the SF do in a trauma situation with a bungee and a head torch.

So the fact their CD was tosh and didnt actually work wasn't the dissapointment you would think

[sneaky beaky]

Hey Doc,
We could make a fortune here.!
You and I could run a Selection Week for a dozen or so numbskulls and clean up!!
12 * 800 = £9,600. Not bad for a weeks work!!
Sneaky

[mfat_man]

Hey Doc,
We could make a fortune here.!
You and I could run a Selection Week for a dozen or so numbskulls and clean up!!
12 * 800 = £9,600. Not bad for a weeks work!!
Sneaky

SB, exactly We got some interest for a weekend at the £120 level with my friend (and his "friends") running it but I suppose someone like BMF would also be a competitior.

[Doc]

I can borrow the Welsh embassy in the Shetlands for a weekend or two and it has a football pitch sized reinforced rear balcony. We may need to borrow some shop dummies from Marks and Sparks to act as terrorists.

we can get Lewis Collins as a consultant for £4.95 minus travel expenses

Sneaky, alsong as our only roles are sitting at the burger van at the bottom of the fan and counting the money, your on!