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Training in gym

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 4:11 pm
by dayains
Right thinking of joining a gym for my training for POC, what would you guys reccomend for a schedule of what to do and when? I've got about 4 months till i get my AS results so I'm eligible :D

Thanks

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 4:16 pm
by Chappy
Hello, if you look through all the old threads you will quickly be able to design your own plan and you will also notice its not a good idea to run in the gym 100% of the time, infact quite the opposite.

Good luck.

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 5:48 pm
by wato212
If i was you I wouldn't bother joining the gym. 1 Its a waste of money and 2 everythink you are going to be tested on you can do at home, ie press-ups.
Going the gym to do weights or on the running machines does not compere to doing press-ups or road running. As it says above just go through the forum and have a look at other people training programs, or if you want I'll PM you my training program to give you ideas.

Wato

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 5:50 pm
by the_trainee
when i was on my prmc i was told to avoid using weights as there not looking for arnie look a likes as u will find it difficult to complete the course, instead just keep bangin out press ups sit ups pull ups and running / cycling / swimming thats all you need to do. apparantly, the only people in lympstone who use the weights who are in the 32 weeks are those in hunter company to keep upper body strength decent

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 5:53 pm
by dayains
wato212 wrote:or if you want I'll PM you my training program to give you ideas.

Wato
Please mate :) and thanks for the replys everyone :wink:

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 7:29 pm
by AC
wato212 wrote:If i was you I wouldn't bother joining the gym. 1 Its a waste of money and 2 everythink you are going to be tested on you can do at home, ie press-ups.
Going the gym to do weights or on the running machines does not compere to doing press-ups or road running. As it says above just go through the forum and have a look at other people training programs, or if you want I'll PM you my training program to give you ideas.

Wato
So you're an expert are you?

Yes, Press-Ups are brilliant and you will be tested on them. Yes, treadmills are pretty much a waste of time. But to be honest, nothing beats using free weights to build explosive power. Also, rowing machines and cross-trainers are superb for building muscle endurance and stamina. As a plus, you also get to see lots of toned birds jiggling around in skin-tight clothing - certainly helps me 'firm up' a bit! :wink:

Don't get me wrong, the gym isn't the be all and end all - I rarely use it myself, but unless you have access to a rowing machine, cross trainer and free-weights then a cheap gym membership is well worth the money.

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 8:00 pm
by beardo
I use the gym a lot. Dont do a lot on treadmills, but i use the rower, cross trainer, stepper, free weights (low weights high reps) etc.

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 8:19 pm
by Gazza85
When i'm in the gym i always use the treadmill right at the start for ten minutes to get my heart beat up and a bit of a sweat on as my warm up.

As per AC and beardos posts, yeh rowers are good for your cardio and muscle.

Beardo you have been to my gym, remember the rowers on the top floor? get a great view of the birds "jogging" on the treadmills on the second floor or doing cycling at the spin zone whilst your rowing .

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 8:38 pm
by wato212
No I'm not an expert, are you?
If you want to get good at press-ups, then you do press-ups, if you want to get good at running then you do runinng. Practice makes perfect :wink:

As for free weights, the only thing they are good for in my opinion is for squats and to brake up your training program. They are nowhere as hard or intence as press-ups. But you are right about the birds :lol:

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 8:43 pm
by joethejudge
AC wrote:
Don't get me wrong, the gym isn't the be all and end all - I rarely use it myself, but unless you have access to a rowing machine, cross trainer and free-weights then a cheap gym membership is well worth the money.
Those are the three things I have!!! :D

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 9:12 pm
by lew
wato212 wrote:As for free weights, They are nowhere as hard or intence as press-ups. But you are right about the birds :lol:
I edited your post slightly so sift through the crap :wink:.

Doing free weights is worth it if you are struggling with a certain exercise. I myself prefer heavy weights and low reps i.e. 84kg benched 3 - 4 times in sets of 3 etc, as AC said free weights build explosive power which can help when having to bang out 20 odd press-ups as fast as possible.

i know they say you don’t need to do weights to pass PRMC which is probably true, but something that can only improve your strength isn’t a bad thing is it?


lew

Posted: Thu 28 Apr, 2005 10:15 pm
by wato212
Lew, mate your point is what? that free weights will help you. You talk about explosive power, being able to bang out 20 press-ups. Then what? your f@#k thats what? As I'v said before if you want to be good at press-ups you do press-ups, simple as that. Next time instead of editing maybe you should read.

Posted: Fri 29 Apr, 2005 8:26 am
by AC
No Wato, I am not an expert. But I will be by July next year.

If you read the original post Wato, you'll find that the guy is asking about training for POC. Not just press-ups. If joining the RM was based solely on doing press-ups then it wouldn't really be much of a challenge would it.

Yeah, press-ups are great, we know this already, but you are going to need a lot of power and muscle endurance for lugging things around and hauling you and your mates over obstacles and such-like. Press-Ups can only help you with this so much, variety is the spice of life. But, by all means - you carry on doing all your press-ups mate, you obviously know what you're doing so why listen to anyone elses advice?

Posted: Fri 29 Apr, 2005 8:56 am
by lew
wato212 wrote:Lew, mate your point is what? that free weights will help you.
Yes, that’s my point entirely, as AC said, variety is the spice of life, doing a few heavy weights session will increase your muscle strength and help with your press ups pull ups etc, I didn’t say they should replace them, just compliment them. It’s all about getting the most out of yourself and you don’t do that by simply repeating the same exercise time and time again, as your body will become accustomed to it, you will hit a wall and then be on here asking why you haven’t improved.
You talk about explosive power, being able to bang out 20 press-ups. Then what? your f@#k thats what?.
No your missing the point again, if you do a heavy weights session you will be increasing muscular strength and endurance making 20 press-ups when your hanging out seem that little bit easier.

Lew

Btw everythink is spelt everything. The “G” key is only 3 keys to the left of the "K" key.

Posted: Fri 29 Apr, 2005 11:33 am
by wato212
For start who said that I just do press-ups? I dont, I like to do a bit of everything. As for free weights, I also do them every now and then, do they make any changes? no not really. Maybe it is just me, if so then fine. What AC and lew need to realize that all this is based on opinion, so if I don't agree with it, it is just my opinion okay.

As for explosive power, I don't use bench press, the best way I found is to fill a rucksack up with weights and start banging out press-ups. This will improve your explosive power.