GY. SGT. CARLOS N. HATHCOCK II
For over a year now, I've been doing some research on GY. SGT. CARLOS N. HATHCOCK II who was a U.S. Marine sniper during Vietnam and actually is considered by most the founding father of techniques that being used today. It was only by accident that I found out my older brother actually served side-by-side with him in Vietnam with first battalion first Marines during 1966. I've also written an article called (Insight of a Bull's Eye) that was an effort on my part to counter some of his ( HATHCOCK ) techniques that's being used in civilian life.
So I guess question is, have any of you ever heard of CARLOS N. HATHCOCK before?
A tribute to GY. SGT. CARLOS N. HATHCOCK II
http://home.swipnet.se/longrange/carlos%20hactcock.htm
One Shot, One Kill
http://www.vpc.org/studies/sniper.htm
Insight of a Bull's Eye
http://www.modernsportsman.com/July04Feature2.html
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Larry Martin
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I've heard of Carlos Hathcock. I have always had a great respect for the man. I've read his bio, "Marine Sniper" though it's been a few years.
An old friend was assigned to be a glorified "driver" for Hathcock when he showed up for a Marine Corp Event. According to my friend, while suffering from a severe hangover (both of them), he still managed to make everyone else look bad on the shooting range. This was in the early 90's and he was probably already suffering from MS. The man and his abilities were, quite simply, awesome. He never received a CMH, and he should have.
Julie
An old friend was assigned to be a glorified "driver" for Hathcock when he showed up for a Marine Corp Event. According to my friend, while suffering from a severe hangover (both of them), he still managed to make everyone else look bad on the shooting range. This was in the early 90's and he was probably already suffering from MS. The man and his abilities were, quite simply, awesome. He never received a CMH, and he should have.
Julie
Indeed his skills were formidable, a damn fine soldier by any account methinks.
Still seems though that there is alot of resentment towards the sniper profession, for reasons unbeknownst to me, guess ill find out when im in!
Theres been many papers and books that have been put forward regarding the sniper as the BEST tool for counter-insurgency work.
Still seems though that there is alot of resentment towards the sniper profession, for reasons unbeknownst to me, guess ill find out when im in!
Theres been many papers and books that have been put forward regarding the sniper as the BEST tool for counter-insurgency work.
"Don't mess around with the guy in shades at night" Corey Hart...and he means it too...
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"Theres been many papers and books that have been put forward regarding the sniper as the BEST tool for counter-insurgency work."
Hi! Redhand
One of the papers you've mentioned is like this one below. Please pay particular attention to the last paragraph.
Dry Firing Practice
"Dry firing, or the actuation of a firearm without the use of ammunition for the purpose familiarization or practice is a very important part of training. However, it is a very special and potentially dangerous situation, one that needs to be approached carefully." "First, by definition it violates Rule 1 since the firearm must be "unloaded." Second, you deliberately point the firearm at something and pull the trigger with the express intention of NOT putting a hole in your target, which is a major violation of Rule 2. However, done with the proper care and procedures it is a relatively safe thing. Your target backstop in your dry fire area should be of such construction that if a live round were fired no harm would be done. The following procedure is recommended." 1) Set a reasonable time limit for the dry-fire practice session. Fifteen to twenty minutes is optimal, with thirty being about the maximum for beneficial effect. More than that and bad habits start to creep in. When doing dry fire practice go for smoothness of motion instead of shear speed and concentrate on your sight picture and surprise break. 2) Dry-firing should be done only in that area, and the practice target should only be displayed during the session. DO NOT leave it up when not practicing. A 1/3 sized target can be used for practice by using feet instead of yards for the distances. 3) Go to your designated dry firing area and unload the weapon. Place all ammunition in a clearly marked "Live Ammunition" container in and then remove that container to another inaccessible location. 4) Return to the dry-firing area. Recheck the weapon by sight and touch. 5) Point in at an area that would sustain little damage if a round were negligently fired into it (i.e., a drum of sand). "Click" off as many times as it takes to cycle the weapon to its capacity (i.e., once for self-loaders, six or more times for revolvers). Then recheck the weapon by look and touch. 6) Mentally enter the "Practice Mode." Concentrate on dry firing drills and avoid distractions. If you do experience a distraction, i.e., phone call, immediately cease dry fire practice. If you decide to continue your practice session later, you must begin all over again at Step #1. 7) If dummy ammunition must be used as part of the dry-fire practice it must be clearly identified as such by sight and touch both before and after use. Store only dummy ammunition in your designated practice area. When finished with the dummy ammunition remove it from the firearm and return it to its storage location. ?Repeat steps 4 and 5. 9) After the last drill is completed, mentally leave the "Practice Mode," and return to the normal "Street Mode." Put the target out of sight and leave the practice area. The session is now over--no "one more time." 10) Retrieve the live ammunition and load the firearm or return it to storage I have been asked why the need to bother with all of the above steps for dry firing practice. In a word,
SAFETY! By confining the dry firing to a specific area and target we can help to eliminate negligent discharges resulting from the "one more time" syndrome in which the shooter does one more practice drill but forgets that the firearm is now live resulting in an embarrassing "bang" when one expected a "click." Leaving a designated area and removing the target help to reinforce the notion that practice time is over. In regards to dummy ammunition it is imperative that it be clearly and easily identified as such by sight. This can be accomplished by insuring that the dummies are distinctly different in appearance than loaded ammunition--by drilling large holes in the cases, chemically staining the cases black, plating them, or using commercial red or clear plastic dummy rounds. However, remember that above all, safety is a state of mind and not mechanics. http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/safety.htm
Hi! Redhand
One of the papers you've mentioned is like this one below. Please pay particular attention to the last paragraph.
Dry Firing Practice
"Dry firing, or the actuation of a firearm without the use of ammunition for the purpose familiarization or practice is a very important part of training. However, it is a very special and potentially dangerous situation, one that needs to be approached carefully." "First, by definition it violates Rule 1 since the firearm must be "unloaded." Second, you deliberately point the firearm at something and pull the trigger with the express intention of NOT putting a hole in your target, which is a major violation of Rule 2. However, done with the proper care and procedures it is a relatively safe thing. Your target backstop in your dry fire area should be of such construction that if a live round were fired no harm would be done. The following procedure is recommended." 1) Set a reasonable time limit for the dry-fire practice session. Fifteen to twenty minutes is optimal, with thirty being about the maximum for beneficial effect. More than that and bad habits start to creep in. When doing dry fire practice go for smoothness of motion instead of shear speed and concentrate on your sight picture and surprise break. 2) Dry-firing should be done only in that area, and the practice target should only be displayed during the session. DO NOT leave it up when not practicing. A 1/3 sized target can be used for practice by using feet instead of yards for the distances. 3) Go to your designated dry firing area and unload the weapon. Place all ammunition in a clearly marked "Live Ammunition" container in and then remove that container to another inaccessible location. 4) Return to the dry-firing area. Recheck the weapon by sight and touch. 5) Point in at an area that would sustain little damage if a round were negligently fired into it (i.e., a drum of sand). "Click" off as many times as it takes to cycle the weapon to its capacity (i.e., once for self-loaders, six or more times for revolvers). Then recheck the weapon by look and touch. 6) Mentally enter the "Practice Mode." Concentrate on dry firing drills and avoid distractions. If you do experience a distraction, i.e., phone call, immediately cease dry fire practice. If you decide to continue your practice session later, you must begin all over again at Step #1. 7) If dummy ammunition must be used as part of the dry-fire practice it must be clearly identified as such by sight and touch both before and after use. Store only dummy ammunition in your designated practice area. When finished with the dummy ammunition remove it from the firearm and return it to its storage location. ?Repeat steps 4 and 5. 9) After the last drill is completed, mentally leave the "Practice Mode," and return to the normal "Street Mode." Put the target out of sight and leave the practice area. The session is now over--no "one more time." 10) Retrieve the live ammunition and load the firearm or return it to storage I have been asked why the need to bother with all of the above steps for dry firing practice. In a word,
SAFETY! By confining the dry firing to a specific area and target we can help to eliminate negligent discharges resulting from the "one more time" syndrome in which the shooter does one more practice drill but forgets that the firearm is now live resulting in an embarrassing "bang" when one expected a "click." Leaving a designated area and removing the target help to reinforce the notion that practice time is over. In regards to dummy ammunition it is imperative that it be clearly and easily identified as such by sight. This can be accomplished by insuring that the dummies are distinctly different in appearance than loaded ammunition--by drilling large holes in the cases, chemically staining the cases black, plating them, or using commercial red or clear plastic dummy rounds. However, remember that above all, safety is a state of mind and not mechanics. http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/safety.htm
