Prison talk.

[chrischance]

Hi guys,
I don't know if you can get City Talk Radio on 105.9, or even if anyone would be interested at the ungodly hour of 0200hrs on Tuesday. But, I am doing a 1-hour talk on the treatment of prisoners in French and Spanish prisons.

Apparently, people have become interested and latched on to the fact I was chained in leg-irons and manacles in public. Also, that I was escorted through the concourse at Orly airport last year by 4 armed security guards and two legionnaires with machine-guns trained on me. Shocked tourists took pictures of me as they gave us a wide berth, probably thinking I was bin Laden in disguise.

The point here is that I have never been convicted in France; I was held merely for extradition to Spain. Another point is the recent French and Spanish furore about Guantanamo Bay and the treatment of foreign prisoners by the US.

I can categorically say, here and now that I started my days with bread and water (every day) and in a 17 day period I was allowed only 3 showers. There's more... lots more, but that's for the radio show.

[RiaBright]

Hi guys,
I don't know if you can get City Talk Radio on 105.9, or even if anyone would be interested at the ungodly hour of 0200hrs on Tuesday. But, I am doing a 1-hour talk on the treatment of prisoners in French and Spanish prisons.

Apparently, people have become interested and latched on to the fact I was chained in leg-irons and manacles in public. Also, that I was escorted through the concourse at Orly airport last year by 4 armed security guards and two legionnaires with machine-guns trained on me. Shocked tourists took pictures of me as they gave us a wide berth, probably thinking I was bin Laden in disguise.

The point here is that I have never been convicted in France; I was held merely for extradition to Spain. Another point is the recent French and Spanish furore about Guantanamo Bay and the treatment of foreign prisoners by the US.

I can categorically say, here and now that I started my days with bread and water (every day) and in a 17 day period I was allowed only 3 showers. There's more... lots more, but that's for the radio show.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for you??

If you break another country's laws, (drug smuggling in your case I believe) then you should pay for your crime as that country dictates.

Sounds to me like the UK prison system should take a leaf out of the book of some of these foreign prisons.
I'd quite happily see our prisoners living on bread & water & given a hard time, when they are currently living in luxury.

I find it ironic that there are many people on this Forum that think it's ok for our forces recruits to be kicked about & punched in training, yet we are now being asked to feel outrage for a convicted prisoner given a bit of a hard time in prison.
(Yes, I have read what the conditions were like.)

Has the world gone mad?

And re your books- I don't think criminals should ever be allowed to profit from their crimes in this way.

I'd have some fun with you if you came on MY radio show. But I wouldn't give you the publicity.

[chrischance]

My books are a deterrant for anyone even thinking of misbehaving in France and Spain. Even being on holiday any lads getting drunk and breaking a window etc, can end up in prison next to murderers or worse. There are no categories in these places. Also, I hope that one young lad in prison reads my books and starts writing about his life (whatever) and turns his life around like I did with my writing... what a good day that will be.
I paid for my crime of hashish smuggling in the worst prisons in France and Spain and it is not my character to want sympathy from anyone.
Isn't it great that we can all air our opinions.

[Rogue Chef]

Chris,
Sounds very interesting.
Of course the treatement in France/Spain, and in fact all over Europe, will not comply with any recognisable humane practices. This is in keeping with everything else that is wrong about the EU.

Ria,
I don't think Chris was complaining or looking for sympathy. It seems to me that Chris was illustrating the hypocrisy of countries like France and Spain who were up in arms about the Guantanamo Bay issue, but treat their own prisoners as bad or worse. Try upsetting a Greek police officer then start banging on about human rights!

Generally I agree with the "when in Rome" principle, but that does not work if a country clearly serves punishment not commensurate with the crime. This is of course highly emotive and subjective.

[RiaBright]

Even being on holiday any lads getting drunk and breaking a window etc, can end up in prison next to murderers or worse.




I paid for my crime of hashish smuggling in the worst prisons in France and Spain





Isn't it great that we can all air our opinions.

GOOD.
Best place for thugs & vandals if you ask me.
In the UK these b*stards can terrorise people for years, & the police do fcuk all.
I'd happily see them locked up with murderers. Might make them think twice before doing it again.
When are people going to stop trivialising anti-social behavior?


I don't care whether you smuggled soft or hard drugs.
All drug smugglers & dealers are scum-bags as far as I'm concerned.
I've seen first hand the damage so called "soft" drugs can do, to personal friends of mine, supplied with this shit by people like yourself.


You aren't just "airing your opinions."
You're making money out of being a criminal with your books.


Rogue.....I agree it's hypocritical of Spain & France, but this shouldn't be an excuse for a convicted criminal to make money out of this issue.
Yes, it is highly emotive & subjective, which is possibly why the people on these Forums that normally have a lot to say for themselves have left this one alone........

[RiaBright]

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It seems to me that Chris was illustrating the hypocrisy of countries like France and Spain who were up in arms about the Guantanamo Bay issue, but treat their own prisoners as bad or worse. .

Just a thought.....if he cares so much about this, perhaps he could donate all proceeds from his books to the poor ickle prisoners.......

[Rogue Chef]

I don't think he 'cares' about it that much and, if I were him, I wouldn't give a penny to any prisoners.

[RiaBright]

I don't think he 'cares' about it that much .

No, I don't imagine he does.

I'd be interested in this book if it had been written by a prisoner wrongly convicted, who wanted to highlight conditions over there.

But I'm certainly not interested in a convicted criminal making money out of his crimes, & I'm disgusted with Waterstones for stocking his books.

[RiaBright]

It seems to me that Chris was illustrating the hypocrisy of countries like France and Spain .

I'll give you an example of hypocrisy.......

A female goes on a Forum (Mfat) & suggests she'd like to do a documentary on a female training with Para Regt.
She receives 13 pages of hostility over 2 months, bordering on abuse on occasions, as well as threatening PM's. (That admin still haven't looked into despite it being reported to them 7 weeks ago.)
I expect I would have received the same kind of response on MF.

Yet a male drug dealing scum-bag convicted criminal comes on this Forum trying to flog his books about his time in prison, & no-one says a dicky-bird, other than to defend him.

That's what I call hypocrisy.
Talk about picking on the "easy" target.

[terryrat]

Malaysias got the right idea no convicted drug smugglers write books about their time in nick dealers would be shot in my world they are the scum of the earth

[RiaBright]

Malaysias got the right idea no convicted drug smugglers write books about their time in nick dealers would be shot in my world they are the scum of the earth

At last. Someone with the balls to speak out about drug dealing scum.

[Doc]

Ria is every post you type a campaign?

You were born with a fanny, live with it, move on and forget about coming second from last in wannabe 10 milers and then think you can crack PCoy.

Gobbing off for weeks on several forums about the inequality of it all and then according to the list coming nearly last is hypocrisy too.

And dont blab you were injured, it wont wash.

My polite days are over as you severly piss me off and its people like you and the way we tend to intially tolerate such shite that is wrecking the place.

You are not nor ever will be military or have connections to it that warrants your place on these forums, especially when your input is bra burning crap


Doc

[London Boy]

In the UK these b*stards can terrorise people for years, & the police do fcuk all.

You're talking absolute bollox, as usual.
The police in the UK have always and are still working their arses off to deal with all sorts of anti-social behaviour, that they see or that is reported to them. Street crime & anti-social behaviour have always constituted the major part of every working day of a patrolling officer. The problem is that not enough members of the public get inviolved instead they ring the police or like you complain on websites!

A lot more civil courage is needed from the British pulbic if they want to keep a lid on it.

It's the same old hypocritical story over and over again that has bene oging on forever. Always relying on and ringing the police then complaining that the police aren't doing enough - well they can't do anymore because they've got their hands full responding to thousands of calls from net curtain twitching members of the public every day, who are too shit scared to show a bit of bottle!

[Wholley]

Good reason to arm law abiding citizens in the UK.
It works in the US where states that allow concealed carry of a firearm have seen invasive and personal attack crime plummet by up to 20%
You don't bring a knife to a gun-fight.
Apart from my duty weapon I always carried a concealed pistol when off-duty.
I kind of miss it now I'm living in the UK.

[aspinall]

Ria is every post you type a campaign?

You were born with a fanny, live with it, move on and forget about coming second from last in wannabe 10 milers and then think you can crack PCoy.

Gobbing off for weeks on several forums about the inequality of it all and then according to the list coming nearly last is hypocrisy too.

And dont blab you were injured, it wont wash.

My polite days are over as you severly piss me off and its people like you and the way we tend to intially tolerate such shite that is wrecking the place.

You are not nor ever will be military or have connections to it that warrants your place on these forums, especially when your input is bra burning crap


Doc

Completely agree every post she has put is a debate on one thing or another