New hat badge for the SBS

[gash-hand]

They didn't really think to much about the consequences of calling it a 'cockade', did they :splat:

[El Prez]

OED: Cockade, a feather or ribbon worn in military headgear; formerly Cockard, from the French Coq.

So you see, they had to change it from Cockard! C'est la vie!

[Sisyphus]

And there was me thinking a cockade was called Viagra.

[gash-hand]

Well with a name like that I guess it was inevitable that the french would have to be in there somewhere :painting:

[Rover]

To get back on track and assist Hawkeye.
May I offer a few observations.

1 As I understand it the SBS are Royal Marines and as such have a beret, Green , and a capbadge the Globe.

2 Under the new SF selection all arms do the same course to qualify for the SAS. At this stage Royal Marines wishing to achieve their SQ within the SBS have to do a further ten weeks selection.

3 Should a Royal Marine fail to qualify for the SBS he may go to the SAS for which he has already qualified or return to his marine unit.

4 As I understand it should a none marine having passed the joint SF selection then undertake and pass the SBS selection he will wear his own unit beret and badge.

5 It is therefor logical that the powers that be believe that a new beret and capbadge should be issued.

6 But you now have the background and qualities of the SBS put into question.

7 To give some idea as to the difference may I suggest that you look at the SAS Boat Troop and the SBS. For those of you who have had the opportunity you will know what I mean.

8 With no disrespect to the SAS they are not in the same game when it comes to water sports.

9 The training, thought process and overall attitude and approach puts the Royal Marine SBS operator in a class of his own.

10 The idea of a new capbadge for the SBS sounds more like a move to assimilate the SBS into the SAS.

If we cannot beat them then we will take them over!!!

No doubt this is set to run for a while so I will now reactivate my cloaking device and return to lurk mode.

[Sticky Blue]

Come out of the shadows rover! Join in the fun!!

[hawkeye]

sticky blue
you and i think rover lost it a bit. i've been out 2 yrs+ and being a ex bubblehead i just wnted to keep up with things. if i had the option of joining the sas if i failed my selection i as would many other'srather be be rtu'd and try again rather than going for 2nd best. do you agree?

[Rover]

Thankyou for the invitation Sticks.

No Hawkeye I do not think there was anything to lose , just a few observations.
Perhaps to assist some people to understand the original thread.
Those who are aware will hopefully understand the observations and accept them as such.

With reference to my third observation:

"Should a Royal Marine fail to qualify for the SBS he may go to the SAS for which he has already qualified or return to his marine unit"

This is an option that the individual has.

I agree with you Hawkeye, should I be in such a position I would not wish to join the SAS.
But the choice is for the individual to make.

I am aware of a number of Royal Marines who have left the Corps and re-enlisted in the Army to join the SAS.
There are also one or two who having failed the SBS selection have also taken that route.

Now I have lost it a bit as I am in danger of opening another 'thread'!

So to compound it ;
Is it true that as part of the SAS training now includes script writing???

Time to reactivate my cloaking device and return to lurk mode.

[= Jay =]

Ahoy there!
The KOSBs and Black Watch would not be happy to have there cockades referred to as budgies.
The Royal Irish Regiment also wear a cockade on their ceremonial berets.

KOSB's dont wear one i think.....father was a KOSB and he didnt wear one

[Beast]

I would rather be RTU'd.
If you don't qualify around the first time, whats the chance of having a second bash?
Is there a waiting period or got to be recommended again?
Interested.

[= Jay =]

I would rather be RTU'd.
If you don't qualify around the first time, whats the chance of having a second bash?
Is there a waiting period or got to be recommended again?
Interested.

think it would basically be...you choose when to go on it again.....to allow yourself time to prepare.....cus if you failed the first time...no doubt you would need alot more time to get into shape.....unless you failed on something minor, then you would probably be in on the next course

[Rover]

Jay,

Believe that if you are a Royal Marine and fail SBS selection you have a years grace before you can try again. Although not sure if you have to do the whole joint SF selection or you can go direct to the SB part.
Perhaps Hawkeye can help with that?

Loz,

You can be so cruel!

Was this design originated in your part of the world?
I would have thought that if it was from the other area the frog would have been face down with the blade in its back!!!


Cloaking again will have to get the lurk mode switch attended too------

[Beast]

Cheers Rover, I will see what Hawkeye has to say.

[Sticky Blue]

Hawkeye,

I as would many other's rather be be rtu'd and try again rather than going for 2nd best. do you agree?

Yes sir!

Most of the lads would rather go back to their unit and have another crack later. I am not, nor have been SF but I do know a few who are and have been. Those lads are a different breed. One I met, still serving I think, had some very strange ways. As a 'peple watcher' I noticed these little things over a period of 2 weeks and sat in the mess chatting to him at the end of the course. I asked him about them and he didn't know why he did these things... he wasn't even aware of the things that he did. Strange little quirks and mannerisms. Hawkeye will know the things I mean!

[Archie]

Lozhop, your capbadge image says it all, Royal has always been a thorn in Perces side, and it would seem that the sooner the Corps is assimilated into the Army the happier Perce will be. Unthinkable perhaps, but you can be sure some bean counter is already doing his sums on it.