London Terror Bombings

[Whitey]

WhooooooHooooooo! YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaw!
Hot damn son of a bitch.
From Yahoo News

"The shooting took place about 10 a.m., when jittery commuters spotted a man, who witnesses said appeared to be a South Asian, wearing a padded coat in the Stockwell subway station in south London. Police chased him into a subway car, pinned him to the ground and shot him in the head and torso, an eyewitness said."[quote]
That is what I'm talking about :laola:
Right in the f@#k head

"Oh they don't know just how it feels
the pain is good
the pain is real
Your son is dead
I shot him in the head
Right between the eyes
With my .45
You should have seen his face
All over the place
I wanna be the first one on my block
To come home in a box.........."
That old jodie has meaning today!
Good job GB, keep up the good work.
Death to terrorists.

[GD]

Apparantly the police have instructions not to attempt body shots baecause of the danger it might set off the typical suicide bomber's belt - if the suspect is wearing one.

So head shots are the order of the day.

I see some Muslim groups are saying that 'shoot to kill' is wrong. Tell it your firking pals in Iraq I say.

They don't like it up em I tell you.

[Wholley]

I wanna be the first one on my block
To come home in a box.........."

"Be the first one on your block to have your son come home in a box"
Anti 'Nam song,Country Joe and The Fish,Circa 1970.

[Sully]

At the risk of spoiling the party does anyone know whether the man was wearing a bomb? Even so, if he had been pinned down and couldn't move then shooting him in the swede isn't going to make any difference at all - apart from losing an intelligence gathering opportunity. If the police do end up shooting an innocent man then the terror groups will have scored a massive coup and once again we'll be playing into their hands. I've had a small exposure to a police tactical firearms unit and found them to be 'twitchy' even on an exercise.

No doubt I'll be correted if wrong but explosives generally need to be detonated by a specific device - own goals invariably occur when the timing mechanism is faulty or has been jarked. As far as I know you could spend all day winging rounds into PE without detonating it. Perhaps home made stuff is different. I'd advise against an internet search on the subject in the current climate though - especially not if there is some kind of 'shoot to kill' policy.

Before anyone asks I'm not an AQ supporter and someone who was on the no.30 bus (but survived) used to work with me so no, I don't think blowing up civillians is a good idea.

[GD]

It was suggested on the news yesterday that the suspect had been carrying something and there was a noise like a champagne cork going off heard from his person. (could have been a bad curry of course).

The IPCC are investigating the shooting as a matter of procedure.

I think anything else above that is speculation at this point.

Of course it sends a message, and I think it's a good one. The police and administration have admitted there is a shoot to kill policy and have said it is totally necessary.

I agree with them.

As for the squibs not going off, we all know there could be loads of reasons. I did hear one news report suggest that it was home made kit they were using and that it may have been prepared several weeks ago and then 'gone off'. As I suggested yesterday, if it is home made kit like ANFO they may be trying to set it off with 1" detonators and (fresh or not) that is virtually impossible. You need to have a commercial explosive as a 'primer' to set off ANFO.

[Sully]

As for the squibs not going off, we all know there could be loads of reasons.

The point I was making related to the possibility of setting off explosives by shooting at them. If the round made a connection on the detonator circuit that would be possible - like the PIRA twin plate mechanism.

I agree that it is pure speculation at the moment although comments above might suggest that the suspect was OBL himself.

Subject to the findings of the investigation or others the message it might be sending out is 'if you're a Paki don't carry a rucksack on public transport and if anybody (I note the officers involved were plain clothed) tells you to do something, do it pronto and you'd better get it right'.

[GD]

I believe the reason given for shooting the perp in the heid was that any body shots could have set off something he may have been carrying in a suicide bombers 'belt'.

That's why it was such a close quarter thing as well and as someone pointed out yesterday there are similarities with the Gibralter shootings in that more than enough rounds were put into the suspect to make sure he couldn't carry out any action (such as pushing the tit again) which might endanger the public or the officers who were attmpting to 'restrain' him.

[Whitey]

Head shot, it makes a mess, closed coffin, no closure for the family, terrorize the terrorists.
No glorious funeral, no virgins, no Allah, just good old Jesus in the end saying "Elevator to hell is that way Akbar"

[harry hackedoff]

Sully, you`re dead right. All H.E. is totally inert. Hit it with a hammer, shoot it, electrocute it, fark all happens. It needs to be initiated by a smaller explosion. Interesting legal point you raise there m`learned friend, about holding someone and then popping five rounds into him.
As I type this, Beeb World has just said target wasn`t linked to bombings

[harry hackedoff]

Confirmed. Target was not connected.
Sad but true.
How could they fark this one up?

[Mike]

Aitch.... If that is so then someone is in dreep doodo.. I also agree with the 5 rounds in the head, surely a tad bit of over KILL... Rumour has it from peepes that I know, that the shooters were defo of the Pointy headed variety

We shall see, though if it was the wrong bod and a total bystander.. the repercussions with the Rag heads will be just the start of real probs...Just what the bombers want....lets hope not

Aye
Mike

[harry hackedoff]

No prob with five to the head, torso or testicles, earlier I asked:

Jew fink it really was old Bill or whichever Sqdn is on C T

London Bobbies are not known for the quick-smart way they hold down a suspect and pop five caps into him

Stand by for loads of Pakis saying this is why we don`t want you English fugging up our country
Aitch, you can`t call`em Pakis in England, it`s politically incorrect
I can call them whatever I want down here. Pommy bastards or pommie cnuts and I feel no racist slur because I am a Pom and I can be a right bastard. They actually are Pakis because they are from Pakistan. It is not derogatory. Oh, go on then

[harry hackedoff]

Further to my last pipe,
there are many inconsistencies here. The house was being surveiled, there was a follow on foot, the same Officers involved in this then became involved in an armed attempt to arrest the target which resulted in the take out. Doesn’t sound right, does it? OP team go overt? Why wasn’t he lifted? Sounds like they had plenty of opportunity.
This is going to look like shit when it gets to court.

[Sticky Blue]

No one has yet said WHO the trigger puller was. They have not said he was old bill...

[GD]

Regardless of which unit popped him the eyewitness statements say the guy refused to stop when called on to do so. He vaulted ticket barriers to try and escape police.

Ok maybe he was a deaf mute who didn't understand English sign language?

Maybe he was an illegal immigrant?

Whatever he was he didn't firkin run for nothing and in doing so he was the author of his own misfortune.