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[Mince]

To quote E. Cartman, I think that situation "sucks ass". What you described goes to show the impossibility of people deciding who is what, who belongs where and so forth, on their own whims. I agree with what you're saying; some folks are just small-minded and I suppose you'll find that wherever you go. There is no clear and definable way to say what nationality a person is, what it requires to be British, or even what 'British' is. We may as well take each person on an individual basis, rather, than assuming a load of crap about them. Incidentally, one of my best friends is Greek. He's just got a job as a civil engineer and he get's mild abuse there as well. He's from Veroia, if you're interested (I'm not sure I spelt that right at all).

[Ploggers]

Yes.

[got1]

"I am not a racist but"
Why do I feel obliged to say this every time I want to talk of this subject.
I don't think I am. But am I a racist to think that when people come into this country they should obey our rules. They can have there own communities, but do what we had to do when we are in there countries.
Wife can't wear shorts , you will offend the locals, can't drink on the balcony, you will offend the locals, don't phone the police about them eating dogs, you will offend the locals, and many more that the older generation will know of. They have gone as far as banning easter and things like that incase we offend them that don't.
Thats my contribution said on the outside of a bottle of aussies finest Hardys Cabernet Shiraz on special offer at Safeways. [They might send me a free bottle if they see this plug]

[Spannerman]

I just feel very peed off with this government of ours and the one before that, for it is they who have allowed the situation to get out of hand. No one is denigrating those that are born here of whatever skin colour or creed they are, I have a sister-in-law that is Greek a son-in-law that is of Polish extract, 2 Nephews who are Canadian and I have no problem with that.

What I do have a problem with is those that arrive here in the UK who have no right to be here, they are here purely as illegal immigrants or economic migrants. If we were able to stop to stop the Nazis from invading these shores in 1940, we should be able to stop the invasion of foreign migrants from wherever they come from.

I have not paid my taxes over the last 50 years to see these people screw up my country and sap it of its energy, if that is what is called being a racist then so be it, I make no apology!

[may18]

The thing is though spannerman, many immigrants come to the country and are a benefit to it. Imagine the NHS if every "none white" doctor was thrown out for instance. I know, from where i work that many first and second generation immigrants HAVE made an effort to integrate. My colleague was born here, though his parents where not. But he is as fiercly british as anyone i met.,, and as angered by the sight of the union jack burning as anyone else (as he sees this as the country that gave his family the chance to make something of themselvesf).

Now, im not blind, i have seen and been in the "enclaves" where not a soul can speak english, the signs are all in another language, and the schools are all specialist. And its clear there that little integration has taken place.

Its because of the diversity in how people who have come to the country have integrated that makes me believe you cant just have arbitary rules based on maternal grandmothers or whatever.


The question that needs to be asked imho, is why is it that in the past immigratants made every effort to integrate, yet nowadays there seems to be a strong element that enter the country, make little effort to integrate..and to all appearances despise the very country they came to.


Is it because of an inherant dislike of the west?. Or is it a reaction to the attitudes they got when they arrived?. Or, is the issue of none integration really a small one..with the media blowing it out of proportion

[Jason The Argonaut]

"I am not a racist but"
Why do I feel obliged to say this every time I want to talk of this subject.
I don't think I am. But am I a racist to think that when people come into this country they should obey our rules. They can have there own communities, but do what we had to do when we are in there countries.
Wife can't wear shorts , you will offend the locals, can't drink on the balcony, you will offend the locals, don't phone the police about them eating dogs, you will offend the locals, and many more that the older generation will know of. They have gone as far as banning easter and things like that incase we offend them that don't.]

I agree

We are expected to respect an abide by rules an way of life when visiting a foreigner country. So they should be made to respect our way off life an the way we live if they wish to live in our country. Number one being speaking the bloody language. To move to a foreigner country an not bother to learn the language is pure arrogance.

Is that to much to ask ?

[andy_s]

What a load of racist shite, time and time again i come across the term 'im not racist but.....' Hasn't anybody got anything more intelligent to say besides 'immigrants are stealing our jobs/money/country. It seems like there's alot of misguded, ill-informed views on this forum which is run on a 'sergents mess' type mentallity and before you say 'if you don't like it don't log on' after this post i won't ever return to this forum as it seems people with level headed views aren't welcome.
Someone said something about immigrants using our badly funded NHS and using up our resources/money. What about healthy white english people who after leaving school refuse to get a job, don't pay tax's and live off the dole-all of which is funded by tax payers money-should we chuck them out as they don't serve a purpose in our society?
Im as british as the next guy but im sick of reading about so much hate directed towards people less fortunate than ourself's, were all human beings and in every race included white brits theres good and bad people-just beacause some do wrong shouldn't mean they should all be villafied.

I know i might of angered some people by saying this but i had to get my view across-just like you have got yours across, so please don't take it the wrong way-it's just an opinion.

[Sticky Blue]

What about healthy white english people who after leaving school refuse to get a job, don't pay tax's and live off the dole-all of which is funded by tax payers money-should we chuck them out as they don't serve a purpose in our society?

They are covered elsewhere in the forum! Don't think they get away with a bit of grief either...

[Spannerman]

Good post Andy, sorry you will not be reading the reply.

The best place to voice an opinion is at ballot box at the next General Election..........

[goldie ex rmp]

bloody hell....is this post still going !!!!!

[ashley]

I don't think immigrants 'steal' 'our' jobs. I think the reason companies choose to employ immigrants in the first place is because there's an incentive to. The incentive being they'll do the same work for less money.

[Powder monkey]

What a load of racist shite, time and time again i come across the term 'im not racist but.....' Hasn't anybody got anything more intelligent to say besides 'immigrants are stealing our jobs/money/country.

Let me just put my hysterrical leftist rant hard hat on.

It seems like there's alot of misguded, ill-informed views on this forum which is run on a 'sergents mess' type mentallity and before you say 'if you don't like it don't log on' after this post i won't ever return to this forum as it seems people with level headed views aren't welcome.

You say your level headed, but your post is positively foaming at the mouth. Contradiction?

Someone said something about immigrants using our badly funded NHS and using up our resources/money. What about healthy white english people who after leaving school refuse to get a job, don't pay tax's and live off the dole-all of which is funded by tax payers money-should we chuck them out as they don't serve a purpose in our society?

We shouldn't chuck them out, we should just give them a damn hard kick up the back side. Like for example removing there benefits and conscripting them to work for minimum wage as "civil labourers", who's main purpose is to renew Britains infrastructure. Leaving the civil labour teams would only be allowed if the individual had found another job.

This off course, would never be considered under a politically correct liberal goverment.

Im as british as the next guy but im sick of reading about so much hate directed towards people less fortunate than ourself's, were all human beings and in every race included white brits theres good and bad people-just beacause some do wrong shouldn't mean they should all be villafied.

It's not so much of a problem with the people (although Britain is the most densely popuated island in europe and one of the most densely populated in the world) it's the cultures that these people bring with them. Would you tolerate somebody living in your house who would force your wife to cover her face and submit to sex everytime he wanted it?

Let these people who subscribe so blindly to these backward cultures carry out there stone age rituals and brutality in there own lands. Thankyou very much.

I know i might of angered some people by saying this but i had to get my view across-just like you have got yours across, so please don't take it the wrong way-it's just an opinion.

Why are you even bothered? You're not coming back right? Anyway what are you worried about? The moderators won't ban your account for just speaking your mind. This isn't urban75.com you know

[going grey!]

Just thought I would add my bit.

You may think this is a conspiricy theory but here goes.

"imigrints do the work british people won't do"
It should be followed by"for the money they get paid".
I would clean sh*t out of toilets if the money was right, but the goverment are the country's biggest employer, so it is in thier interest to keep down wage's.

My uncle own's a building firm and there are alot of polish builder's here doing work for half the price of a british person, how can they afford to?.
Because they live 15 in one house and never go out, and send thier money back home, I don't blame them, they are trying to make a better life for themselve's and thier family's, what we need is controlled imigration, and I think that's what the BNP want.

[flighty]

Don't delude yourself.

I sit on a working group on our local council to monitor the 'life and times' of your average Polish worker in our borough.

The vast majority of them are employed, and housed, by rip-off emlpoyment agencies. They are expected to 'hot bed' in their homes ie one shift comes in from work and get their head down in the beds vacated by the shift going off to work. 15 /20 to a house is not unusual.

Minibuses pick them up and hawk them round various factories who might or might not want them to work that particular day. They are charged £10 per day for transport whether or not they are taken on for work,and regardless of the distance travelled, be it one mile or 30.

They are also charged arbitary sums for shite such as £10 per week for carpet cleaning .... deducted from their paltry wages.

Some work for far less than the minimum wage. We recently got to hear about a party that was held to celebrate some Polish workers' wages being increased two fold to something pathetic like three quid an hour!

I could crawl up my own backside to think that decent, hard working people are treated so appallingly in our borough and we, as a Council, are doing our utmost to see that fairness prevails and that the advertising that is done by these arsewipe employment agencies is factual.

These poor buggers think they are coming to the land of milk and honey. Yes, they might have a better income and prospects here than they do in Poland but it does not excuse 'makers' for exploiting folk .... wherever they (legally) come from!

BNP? Don't make me spit! We have one putting up in my ward.... again .... this May. Farkin' no brained racist tossers.

Jayne

[owdun]

What we should be doing is to make our own, indigenous, lazy arsewipes work for a living instead of lying abed till midday, then looking for the next fix. Then we would have less to offer would be immigrants, who would do better to fight for better conditions in their own countries. This wont happen however, because the Govt.s agenda is to flood us with Immigrants, legal and illegal, then ease us into Europe where we become another region of the Great Commune of the Socialist Ideology.


Owdun.