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Royal Marines Commando - It's a State of Mind.

General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
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Cool Hand Luke wrote:DWW, just out of interest were you managging 8 chin-ups when you were 245 lbs, if so then yes you are a freak of nature lol
Or just strong lats. :D
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Used to get 12 with bodyweight, 8 with 20kg on the belt.
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DWW wrote:Used to get 12 with bodyweight, 8 with 20kg on the belt.
You could try a super-set. Alternate from pull-ups to lat pull-downs. I'm sure that would fatigue you.
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Strong Lats!! Just a little AJ lol

245lbs is a lot of weight to pull-up, infact IFBB pros at 265lbs don't even seem to do chin-ups, DWW I reckon your lats must be like Barn Doors!
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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Behave please ladies.

I knew a bloke who weighed in at just under 18 stone and was 5 foot 9 inches tall. He could go into a gym and wack out as many Pullups as you wanted him to do. Ditto Pressups, ditto Situps. He was a dustbinman. Some people are built like that.

When I joined up I managed 4 pullups at RMB Deal during my first few days. After 10 days I could do 20. I've seen guys who looked like FLUBS (Fat Lazy Useless Bastards) cream the USMC tests in the Gym and not even break into a sweat.

Once that fitness is there you tend to keep it mainly because of your mindset. Maybe the guy is trying to impress us all, maybe he is gen, maybe he's an Eeijut. You and I don't know do we? So the only way we are going to know if he is gen is when he comes back to the forum to tell us he had hacked:

A. His PRMC.

B. His CDO training.

If he don't reply then who cares anyway? I don't.

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Fair play Artist. Due to the fact my gym is pretty well equipped and used by a lot of serious trainers there are plenty of guys who can chin more/heavier than me. But as you say, I'm not trying to impress anybody there, or here.

If I was I'd have made up a better score for the others haha :D :o
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Artist wrote:Behave please ladies.

I knew a bloke who weighed in at just under 18 stone and was 5 foot 9 inches tall. He could go into a gym and wack out as many Pullups as you wanted him to do. Ditto Pressups, ditto Situps. He was a dustbinman. Some people are built like that.

When I joined up I managed 4 pullups at RMB Deal during my first few days. After 10 days I could do 20. I've seen guys who looked like FLUBS (Fat Lazy Useless Bastards) cream the USMC tests in the Gym and not even break into a sweat.

Once that fitness is there you tend to keep it mainly because of your mindset. Maybe the guy is trying to impress us all, maybe he is gen, maybe he's an Eeijut. You and I don't know do we? So the only way we are going to know if he is gen is when he comes back to the forum to tell us he had hacked:

A. His PRMC.

B. His CDO training.

If he don't reply then who cares anyway? I don't.

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Well, you didn't tell porkies about being blunt Artist.
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I managed 2.4km in 11:42 yesterday, it's getting easier (fitness wise at least)
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yeah that's not bad mate, I think you'll get there in no time to be honest fitness wise anyway.
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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DWW wrote:Hi folks,

It's been a while since I've posted much, so to cut a long story short:

I did my POC in 2002, and failed due to shin splints, and over the last 5 years have seen various orthapaedic consultants, physiotherapists and podiatrists. I have had gait analysis, orthotic insoles, bone pecking, accupuncture, deep tissue massage, compartment pressure tests, x-rays, MRI scans and rehabilitation exercise programmes. These have failed to either identify or cure the problem.

My recent, and final, consultation revealed to me that there is no option for any further physical treatment, either through the NHS or privately. I have been informed that there is categorically nothing that can be done to cure, or indeed find, the problem. I have also been advised that consequently running through the pain will not cause any damage, and that it is down to my strength of mind as to how far/fast/frequently I can run. I find this a little galling as I have been told time and again over the last 5 years (and through a couple of abortive attempts to join the forces) to halt running immediately when I feel pain, which incidentally is around the 3 minute mark.

This would appear to be a significant barrier to overcome, but I have ran twice in the last 10 days, one 4 miler and a 5. While the pain is really bad I have kept going, and the following few days have been hobbling a little, and waiting for the pain to subside before running again (including in about half an hour :) ).

My question (finally!) is thus:

Does anyone have any similar experience or knowledge of this, and in your opinions would I be wasting my time to attempt a PRMC in a few months? Is it possible, on top of everything else in RT that tests you, to succeed with such a condition?

It's a state of mind.

Some advice that heped me mate............

Pre run:

1. Change your running shoes (sounds crazy but I had a good pair of Saucony runners that killed my shins. I bought Asics runners as a replacement (almost identical shoe) and it helped a lot. Nothing wrong with Saucony, just different running shoes suit different people.

2. Sorbothane insoles (especially if your running on roads)

3. Watch your weight. Shedding excess pounds will reduce the impact on your shins. Trim down (bodyfat and excess muscle) and reap the benefits with your speed too.

4. Keep the shins warm when running with long socks and ron hill running trousers.

5. Warm up and stretch well before every phys session.



Post run:

1. Stretch well
2. Ice your shins after training. (Ive heard or people dipping their legs into a big bucket of ice after a run.)
3. If painful, have a days rest, Ice, gently stretch and take some brufen.
4. As you do all of the above and your body becomes accustomed to running frequently, this will also help the pain.


Ive got a couple of good word documents here on Shin Splint Preventative Exercises. PM me and I will email them to you (or anyone else who wants them)

Cheers

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On the running note.

Make sure you get the right running shoes, or you will really mess your knees and joints up for ever.

Go to Decathalon, ask to speak to a running specialist. Your foot roll's from either the outside to the inside or inside to out., There are names for these but i dont know them.

You need a running shoe that balances this motion. Its imperitive that you do this....and Decathlon will check this for you and sell you the best shoe for you. With out ripping you off.
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Stacka83 wrote:On the running note.

Make sure you get the right running shoes, or you will really mess your knees and joints up for ever.

Go to Decathalon, ask to speak to a running specialist. Your foot roll's from either the outside to the inside or inside to out., There are names for these but i dont know them.

You need a running shoe that balances this motion. Its imperitive that you do this....and Decathlon will check this for you and sell you the best shoe for you. With out ripping you off.
I'm sure it's called Pronating and Supernating. Not 100% on that though.

I think I Supernate. Struggling to remember what the physio said in the summer.
She advised me to buy a decent pair of trainers then to compensate for it so it helps me.
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you are correct AJ, I just went to a running shop today, overprostation is where you roll your ankles too far inwards or something to that effect
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Pronation is rolling in of the foot, Supination is rolling out. Pronation is most common and may not be a problem, but some shoes are designed to correct this by holding your foot in the neutral position. This article explains better:

http://www.therunningshop.uk.com/questions.cfm
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I've not shopped at Decathlon, I'm sure its great if you live near one; but for anyone else any running specialist shop, or a store like this one where they have specialists working there. Most towns have such stores, and they'll be able to do checks to see what type of shoe is needed. Stacka's right on all his points, just don't worry about going to going to decathlon, any running store will do the same job; and my personal opinion is that a local one man band will do a better job than a more impersonal large store. Theres always something nice about walking into a store where you have a half hour chat about all your previous purchases before you make another, after a while they'll know exactly what your needs are. These people with their small off street stores will take immense pride in their work and will spend more time and effort on you, aswell as brilliant after care, may be a £10 more expensive, but its your opinion if its worth it.
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