I'll ask my Dad................Jobag wrote:Mass deportation sounds good, but where do you draw the line as to who goes and who stays. If your mother is English, but your dad pakastani, do you get to stay??
Share This Page:
potential solution for muslim fundamentalist terrorism...
-
Doc
- Guest
-
markthestab
- Member
- Posts: 308
- Joined: Sun 29 May, 2005 7:03 pm
- Location: Nottingham
3 paragraphs, 3 liberal pinkos
thats fair and unbaised journalism for you
Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said: "It is going to take more than a piece of paper to convince me that Jordan and some of these other possible north African and Middle Eastern regimes are suddenly safe."
Amnesty International's Mike Blakemore said the assurances the government was trying to obtain were "not worth the paper they are written on".
Liberal Democrat president Simon Hughes said he would prefer to see the detainees prosecuted in the UK rather than deported to their home countries.
good job i dont own a tv so i dont pay for this crap
thats fair and unbaised journalism for you
Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said: "It is going to take more than a piece of paper to convince me that Jordan and some of these other possible north African and Middle Eastern regimes are suddenly safe."
Amnesty International's Mike Blakemore said the assurances the government was trying to obtain were "not worth the paper they are written on".
Liberal Democrat president Simon Hughes said he would prefer to see the detainees prosecuted in the UK rather than deported to their home countries.
good job i dont own a tv so i dont pay for this crap
-
mfat_man
- Guest
info@liberty-human-rights.org.uk
Feel free to tell this unelected group of fools what you think.. remember to chose your words carefully, and leave out threats or abuse cos could land you in trouble!
Feel free to tell this unelected group of fools what you think.. remember to chose your words carefully, and leave out threats or abuse cos could land you in trouble!
-
markthestab
- Member
- Posts: 308
- Joined: Sun 29 May, 2005 7:03 pm
- Location: Nottingham
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... altop.html
look how much benefits we give this c@#t
and my mum and dad have to pay £1,200 a month to keep my gran looked after in a home because shes not considered disabled enough, despite the fact she cant walk
this c@#t has been given £500+ a month for himself
£1,300 for his wife and kids and a £30,000 pound people carrier
all whilst calling for us to be bombed and encouraging our downfall, this country is insane, sounds bad to say it but it needed a kick up the arse, hopefully those 50+ poor sods wont have died in vein
look how much benefits we give this c@#t
and my mum and dad have to pay £1,200 a month to keep my gran looked after in a home because shes not considered disabled enough, despite the fact she cant walk
this c@#t has been given £500+ a month for himself
£1,300 for his wife and kids and a £30,000 pound people carrier
all whilst calling for us to be bombed and encouraging our downfall, this country is insane, sounds bad to say it but it needed a kick up the arse, hopefully those 50+ poor sods wont have died in vein
-
Bliartheliar
- Guest
Human rights groups may not be entirely popular, and may have thier priorities wrong on some occasions. But they do serve a purpose. We live in a civilised scoeity, so we cant just ignore our laws and principles to satisfy our anger. Sending someone back to be tortured and killed is worng. We may as well just do it ourselves.
That Bakri may have extremist views, but he has done nothing to incite terrorism. Its better to argue against him than to just ban him. Its his views that we need to counter, not just where he lives. It makes no differnece if he is here or in Lebonan - with the internet and all he can still talk to whoever he wants, so deporting him wont help us. Here, we can moniter him and then charge him if he steps out of line. He is also a refugee - we simply cant treat him differently because of his views. He has not committed any crimes as far as I understand so sending him somewhere to be killed is nothing less than murder.
Markthestab, i'm not defending the man by any means. But we are suspicious of him because of his views, not because he has been here on benefits. Please dont copy the Mail, Sun and Express and include things in this argument that are basically irrelevent. Especially considering the amount of British people that live off benefits and are respsonsible for destroying and terrorising communities. Bakri has not yet committed any crimes, so what is it saying about Britain if we treat him as a criminal?
Theres a lot of anger over the fact that these poeple are in our country, on our land. May I remind you that, for good reasons or not, we have thousands of soldiers in thier countries, on thier land. Its hypocritical to believe that we have a right to be there but they dont have a right to be here. Especially when they are here legally, and we are there for unjustified reasons.
That Bakri may have extremist views, but he has done nothing to incite terrorism. Its better to argue against him than to just ban him. Its his views that we need to counter, not just where he lives. It makes no differnece if he is here or in Lebonan - with the internet and all he can still talk to whoever he wants, so deporting him wont help us. Here, we can moniter him and then charge him if he steps out of line. He is also a refugee - we simply cant treat him differently because of his views. He has not committed any crimes as far as I understand so sending him somewhere to be killed is nothing less than murder.
Markthestab, i'm not defending the man by any means. But we are suspicious of him because of his views, not because he has been here on benefits. Please dont copy the Mail, Sun and Express and include things in this argument that are basically irrelevent. Especially considering the amount of British people that live off benefits and are respsonsible for destroying and terrorising communities. Bakri has not yet committed any crimes, so what is it saying about Britain if we treat him as a criminal?
Theres a lot of anger over the fact that these poeple are in our country, on our land. May I remind you that, for good reasons or not, we have thousands of soldiers in thier countries, on thier land. Its hypocritical to believe that we have a right to be there but they dont have a right to be here. Especially when they are here legally, and we are there for unjustified reasons.
-
markthestab
- Member
- Posts: 308
- Joined: Sun 29 May, 2005 7:03 pm
- Location: Nottingham
mate i dont find it irrelevent that of these extremists being deported the ones we know about are living on benefits, huge ammounts
it says a lot about their charactor, it also says a lot about the crazy beifits system, and also asks the question why do we pay and shelter people who wish to do us harm and hate our nation, why are we such a soft touch and why are we only just cracking down on scum like this now
expecially considering one of the deportees was running a credit card scam to fund terrorism
im well aware of the security services tactics of leaving dangerous people where we can see them and know what theyre doing , but when it goes too far we come accross as a soft touch
these deportations have sent out a bit of a message that radicalism will not be tolerated and if you pratice hatred you could end up in prison or being deported, the rules of the game have changed and the radical islamic community is shitting its pants
and its about time
it says a lot about their charactor, it also says a lot about the crazy beifits system, and also asks the question why do we pay and shelter people who wish to do us harm and hate our nation, why are we such a soft touch and why are we only just cracking down on scum like this now
expecially considering one of the deportees was running a credit card scam to fund terrorism
im well aware of the security services tactics of leaving dangerous people where we can see them and know what theyre doing , but when it goes too far we come accross as a soft touch
these deportations have sent out a bit of a message that radicalism will not be tolerated and if you pratice hatred you could end up in prison or being deported, the rules of the game have changed and the radical islamic community is shitting its pants
and its about time
-
markthestab
- Member
- Posts: 308
- Joined: Sun 29 May, 2005 7:03 pm
- Location: Nottingham
yeah i read that earlier, one point to note though is how the normal islamic community is distancing themselves from these nutters by publicly denouncing them.....
But Inayat Bunglawala, from the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "Omar Bakri is unlikely to be missed by the vast majority of British Muslims.
"He is someone who for 20 years was given shelter by this country and he has spent almost all that time vilifying this country and its values.
"With his often very offensive remarks he has contributed towards the demonisation of British Muslims."
....its nice too see muslims who are proud to be british speaking out against the nutters, something they havent really done enough in the past
seems to me like the tougher stance is working well
But Inayat Bunglawala, from the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "Omar Bakri is unlikely to be missed by the vast majority of British Muslims.
"He is someone who for 20 years was given shelter by this country and he has spent almost all that time vilifying this country and its values.
"With his often very offensive remarks he has contributed towards the demonisation of British Muslims."
....its nice too see muslims who are proud to be british speaking out against the nutters, something they havent really done enough in the past
seems to me like the tougher stance is working well
-
mfat_man
- Guest
Good to see this Iam a firm believer that this is good and bad in everyone, have been in Muslim countries abroad - no problem.But Inayat Bunglawala, from the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "Omar Bakri is unlikely to be missed by the vast majority of British Muslims.
"He is someone who for 20 years was given shelter by this country and he has spent almost all that time vilifying this country and its values.
-
Bliartheliar
- Guest
-
markthestab
- Member
- Posts: 308
- Joined: Sun 29 May, 2005 7:03 pm
- Location: Nottingham
bit of a joke really
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4164780.stm
7 years for being involved in killing thousands, to think this guy could be back out soon having served his time
he should have been extradited to america they would have banged him up for life
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4164780.stm
7 years for being involved in killing thousands, to think this guy could be back out soon having served his time
he should have been extradited to america they would have banged him up for life
