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DANTAE wrote: And sandy i guess traditonal martial artist's and MMA fighters will never agree good luck getting in to K1
I think this is because 'Traditional Martial Artists' dont like being told that there 'traditional' spinning back kicks dont really work in a pub toilet :lol: :lol:

MMA, in its many different disiplines (BJJ, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Sambo etc) is in my opinion, superior to traditional martial arts - because it actually works - that is unless you carry ninja stars around with you :roll:
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untill you take the gloves off and a tradtional martial artist can effectively block lock and throw i think you are confused because mma fighters use nice high kicks more than the rest of us MMA is not boxing and ninja stars are a distraconary tool used to give you time to run away or why he is doging said ninja star use a technique to drop him quickly the reason tradtional martial artists and MMA fighters dont get on is because of a diffrence of opion on traing techniques we prfer to master one thing they think its nesscery to learn many diffrent techniques and also dont like kata dojo etiquete ect ect. end of the day tho both are comptent fighters that do things diffrently

its simular to marines and para's both are excellent soldiers but there is a rivalry and they both do things diffrently

and i still love to watch MMA minus UFC that is fixed
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Ninja Stars (Shuriken)

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Shuriken (ninja stars) are for films. Unlike other martial artists the ninja has a indepth knowledge of the human body and its weaknesses. This knowledge is a power in itself as it allows him to know where and when to hit. He even knows how to stop somebody's heart beating!!

One should respect all martial arts as they are all effective in their own right. However, when it comes down to the nitty gritty it depends solely on the ability of the individual.


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we do cover shuriken training in our dojo tho it is good for building awareness and like i said the technique's are quite easily applied to loose change car keys stones ect all good for providing a distraction
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Awareness

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Your awareness should be seen through a gaze and you should always be aware of what's going on around you. Even when you are applying techniques on an assailant. If you gaze you see more, if you look direct you don't.

Shuriken may be good in the dojo, but searching one's pockets for some on the street in a time of need might be a tadge difficult. However, that said, they are part of tradition and undoubtedly effective weapons if used for their intended purpose.



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It isn't nonsense. Its true. This was even portrayed on a programme called The Ultimate Warrior, a few months back. Did anybody watch this.

The body's weakspots are called Kyushu's.

Ninjutsu also has an alternative therapy side to it. I wrote about this in my second book. That's why we have such a good knowledge of the human anatomy. Believe it or not, its very easy to stop someone's heart and to start it again. Although not recommended for training purposes!!



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lads no offence to anyone that does martial arts, i did thai boxing actually helped instruct it for a short while , started when i was 11 , but don;t you think that alot of it's utter b@***** ?.?.? . I mean lets face it in the ideal situation you would be faced by one opponent but in this day and age when little nobber teenagers find it neccesary to attack you in groups of 5 you have no chance whatever you skill or training . I believe everyone knows how to fight to a good standard , its all in your nogging , hit hard , hit fast and leg it , not unless youv'egone all jacky chan on there arse and there all clean out on the floor ahah :D
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Ste Preece wrote: Believe it or not, its very easy to stop someone's heart and to start it again. Although not recommended for training purposes!!
Is anyone else buying this cheese dicks crap!
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Jim Wagner

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Has anyone heard of Sgt Jim Wagner? He recently won the black belt magazine instructor of the year 2006. He started the whole reality based personal protection craze and has taught and trained with some of the most respected soldiers (including SF units) and counter terrorism units in the world. I'd say that his "system" would probably be the most useful to someone in the armed forces as it is basically CQB.

Check out his website www.jimwagnertraining.com
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I thought it was fairly common knowledge that the human body has a fair few weak spots. I used to learn a form of kung fu when i was at school and my instructor struck me on the arm sort of between my bicep and bone was fairly sore then several minutes late went green and collapsed, haha then he prodded his fingers on my skinny pecs and I felt alright in a couple of minutes.

Basically he was using the disruption of my meridian or whatever lines and these things do exist its not hocus pocus. But the problem comes from people thinking they know it all then get into a real street fight situation bounce around like Bruce lee and promptly get flattened. Its whatever works for you and obviously how good your instructor is at teaching.

The style I learned was very old and rare so the instructor had to tweak bits and what not, to make it relevant for modern times as these martial arts were developed for battle centuries ago so the "traditional" arts keep alive old teachings hopefully to hone things like accuracy, coordination etc but when it comes to actually hand to hand they use the same old teachings but develop it and build upon it for modern use.
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lewdog is he paying you to say that :D hahah , have u seen some of the headings ? how to survive a sniper ? we know how criminals attack with knives? teach you how to get out of a fight ? my god what is the world coming too . if you get shot by a sniper you tend to find that no amount of ebook will help you out haah .
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haha marine I can see how it might look like he's paying me to say that stuff!! But I've met and trained with him and he's acually a really nice guy who has been there and done it and knows what he's talking about.the only draw back is that like a lot of americans (here comes a huge generalization..........)he goes a little over the top (ie the sniper stuff) but that stuff is more for the specialized military and police groups that he teaches and not the average person.although it doesn't hurt to know... however unlikely :lol:
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watched a few UFC fights and i find it odd how rarely they hit the ground felt like someone said ok guy's the fans dont like it when there is grapling on the ground so stay standing am quite impressed by pride fighting tho and ste preece i dont know about that stuff you said about the heart but the body dose have pressure points tho probly not to those levels and you can brake bones with the vairous locks
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