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Andy O'Pray wrote:She went to our next door neighbour, John, REME I think, had just returned from work. John came into the house with his machette and told the wife to take the kids out of the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! and close the door. After a bit of banging and shouting John emerged from the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! with a chopped up cobra.

REME saves the day again !!!

Gore.

I think you will find that Cliodna is speaking from personal experience when she made that comment. She herself is ex- army and has lived on numerous MQ's as I have. When we first met i bummed up the RM quarters and she was more realistic as she had had many a bad experience of life on the patch. I now take back what i said way back then because cliodna was right YES LOZ YOU WERE RIGHT I WAS WRONG -PUBLIC APOLOGY . As this is a forum which cav lad has pointed out, then we are free to make judgements and comments on how life has affected us. When i had my original drip session I felt it was rightly so, i had had a hell of a bad day and nobody gave a damn. This site is all about support and quite frankly i wish i had never posted the original comment as all myself and cliodna seem to be doing is justifying ourselves and for feeling how we feel. Yes this is a military site but like you said it is also a public site so be prepared for whatever gets fired next - after all it is an open forum, and im sure cliodna had her reasons, she is not just a wife (as someone kindly pointed out) but she is the mother of a bootnecks child, she runs the home when bootneck is away (and i dont mean Trev )she takes control of both there lives and runs things until bootneck gets back from exercise etc and she is also fromer army. And i as many others on this site have the upmost respect for her and her views.

flo wrote: When i had my original drip session I felt it was rightly so, i had had a hell of a bad day and nobody gave a damn. This site is all about support

I agree. I don't think anyone was having a go at you. Like Cliodna says, you've nowt to apologise for.
I wasn't really objecting to inter-service slander/piss-taking either, just the way Cav-Lad was lynched for defending himself.
I've got close family who've had the same problems as you mentioned in your first post, so I sympathise. One posting took the serving half away for a whole year - she wasn't even allowed to go with him.

Well i feel another drip session coming on........

Jed was due to fly home yesterday but guess what - NO JED! I phoned the guardroom and asked what time flights were arriving (never been a problem before) and was told youre not military so we cant tell you unless you come into the guardroom. Yes i can see where they are coming from but as i pointed out i cannot access that barracks because my car pass and family pass is only valid for 21 Reg, to which the reply was well get in touch with 21 reg. So guess what i did, and was told we cant give out that info -because we havent got it go back to the Duke of boots. I then went back to original guardroom who then advised me to go to 1 Reg Guard room. They then told me nothing to do with them. So i am still none the wiser despite going down to Duke of boots guardroom as per originally instructed, as they will not release the info despite that fact that i am a wife as my husband is not part of that regiment. HELLO IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE. So Andy if you see a big plane flying overhead in Canada can you PM me as it may be jed on his way home.

Oh I think jed is going to be doing star jumps all over a particular bunch of brown furry creatures about 2 mins after he has removed his bergan.

Please post the full max horror piccys Flo.

El Prez wrote:Oh I think jed is going to be doing star jumps all over a particular bunch of brown furry creatures about 2 mins after he has removed his bergan.

I hope he leaves his bergan on!
Flo, as it is bank holiday Monday here I don't think I will be able to help. I know you have probably tried it but can you get hold of the Padre or Welfare People. Let us know how many the big fella 'picturises'! The amount of 'Picturising' he'll be doing we might as well start calling him Rembrandt or Jed Van Gough! Keep smiling Flo, don't let them see you are annoyed and 'let loose the dog of Jed to cry havoc' when he gets home... let him have his tea first though

Flo, I don't know how to tell you this my darling. Tonight is game 4 of the Calgary Flames versus Tampa Bay Lightnings and Calgary is two games to one. Tonight's game is being played in Calgary, resulting in the massive street party on 17th Avenue. My bet is that the flight has been cancelled until tomorrow so that the boys can join in on the party.

Don't tell Jed that I told you that, I hate to rat on a fellow bootneck.

He will be back soon Flo.

Aye - Andy.

but can you get hold of the Padre or Welfare People.

Glad to see someone has a sense of humour.

If im not on tomorrow you know he is home

But if you are in for some mickey taking (as if) ask him about HMS Pongo?
(apparently the lads painted it on the side of the mother truck. but he doesnt know that i know)

oh b***ger im off for a glass/bottle of vino. cheers

Andy wrote:

Staying with the thread, which is most unusual for me. When in Singapore we lived on a married patch surrounded by pongo families from all sorts of Corps and regiments.

As sure as God made little apples, when I was up the ulu, or elsewhere things would go pear shaped at home. One day the wife was trying to get rid of a snake out of the house by poking it with an umbrella, to no avail. She went to our next door neighbour, John, REME I think, had just returned from work. John came into the house with his machette and told the wife to take the kids out of the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! and close the door. After a bit of banging and shouting John emerged from the I'M A SCAMMER SPAMMER!!! with a chopped up cobra.

On another occasions my wife and kids returned home to find that the beautiful flowering vine, which covered our fence and car porch, was covered with munching locust. In a panic she went to another neighbour, Int Corps I believe. He spent about three hours cutting away the vine and getting rid of the vine and the locusts.

On the other side, when I was lying in RNH Plymouth after being wounded in NI. My wife and kids lived in MQs in Plympton. My wife who was unable to drive at that time had to bus it with two small children to visit me. Not once did anyone offer her a lift into the hospital.

Just thought I would re-print that because judging by the silence of certain people they have not read it or can't answer it.
It don't matter if you are in/or the married partner off someone in the RM,Navy,Army,RAF we are all human and on the whole born and bread Brits. So there's good and bad, helpful and lazy, stuck-up and nice in all the services MQ's.
I mean it's not as if they inject people living on Navy MQ's with a "be nice to your neighbours" drug is there.
All this 'our married couples are better than yours' is pathetic and childish and some should be old enough to know better. El Prez

Thank you Mince for seeing my side.

Cav-Lad

I spent a large part of my life living in MQ's. RAF. Army, and lastly Marine/Navy with my own wife and kids.

The RAF ones were fine normally stuck in the middle of nowhere. So everybody new everybody else.

The Army MQ,s however I remember with nothing but distaste. As Me Pop was RAF and we were living in an Army MQ patch in Aldershot me poor old Mum went though hell. As she was "not one of the girls" the majority of wifes ignored her. I was always in trouble as I defended my fathers Career vigourously. Thankfully we only stayed for a few months owing to Mum having a nervous breakdown due to the Ignorance and pettyness of the Army wifes who basically snubbed her at every opportunity.

My time in the RM/RN Mq's were fine. At one time I had an USMC S/sgt as a next door neighbour who I got on fine with, ditto the RNLMC Sgt who I also lived next door to.

The time when me Mum was put through the wringer had a long lasting affect on me. I could not care a flying toss Cav Lad about how nice your neighbours are. The ones at Aldershot were scum! This was well over 30 years ago and things so I thought may have changed but reading Flo's input it does not seem to have changed on iota.

Artist

Artist wrote:

This was well over 30 years ago and things so I thought may have changed but reading Flo's input it does not seem to have changed on iota.

So what of Andy 0'Pray's inut which shows things from another angle. Or are you just going to ignore it because it does not fit into your idea of how everything is.
I find it really pathetic that we are arguing over this, because it makes no sence. How on earth can all RM/Navy couples living in MQ's be perfect neighbours and the Army ones be not. Unless of corse a number of things happen.
.Everyone in the Army who gets married go on a cadre to make them as orid as posible.
.Everyone in the Army is a nasty piece of work and only marry's another nasty peice of work.
Plus I would be interested to know how a Army(Pongo) family would be treated on a Navy MQ's.

Cav-Lad

All I'm doing is stating facts Cav Lad. If that puts you nose out of joint hard luck.

My own sister was married to a lad in the Army. REME so he was. (22 years service) She got the cold shoulder from the wifes also as she did not fit in with the majority of the Wifes. i.e. their husbands were one regt whilst my sisters husband was REME.

I reckon I got an inkling of what a black person must feel like ref discrimination when we lived in Aldershot. I was always getting into fights with Army Bratts whos Fathers were Paras and therefore the only people who counted. Pop was based at the Para depot at the time.

Artist

Cav-Lad wrote:Plus I would be interested to know how a Army(Pongo) family would be treated on a Navy MQ's.

Next door but two to me is an Army lad. He is treat the same as everyone else. Invited on lads nights out and his Mrs the same (girls night of course). They tend to decline the offers as does the RAF lad next door as he works shifts. The Army lads only works 9-5 as he is on course down here. They keep themselves to themselves through choice...

Artist.
I don't dispute what you are saying there. I live on an estate that only houses people from two Regiments plus of course a few attached personnel e.g.. REME, AGC , etc. So there isn't much tension as everyone knows each other through work. I also use to live next door to a Warrant Officer when I was only a Trooper and there no problems between us and our Wife's. I called him by his first name except at work for obvious reasons. And our wife's went on the p~ss together with other wife's of different ranks with no trouble.
Now there are MQ estates i.e.. Tidworth, Catterick, ALDERSHOT which include a hell of alot of different Regiments. And there's allot of rivalry and sometimes HATRED between different Army units. And this may after a period of time or from pressure of there husbands rub of on the wife's. But most wife's I've seen couldn't care less, they have to much of other things to worry about.
I just find it hard to believe that there is a major difference between Army and Navy personnel when it comes to social skills. It's not as though we have different up bringings, most of us are working class men and women.

Also from my experience I can't see the Army treating you so badly because your RM or Navy. I've never really noticed a dislike or hatred for the Navy by the Army. I can't even think of a name we call you, I can for the RAF but not Navy. During OP Fresco we worked and got on very well with the Navy, there were no problems.

No, the Army spend too much time hating each other.

But what you and others have experienced is what you have experianced and I can't argue with that. I'm simply fighting the Armys corner, and I'm sure if this tread was started on the Armys forum, or another Website that I wont mention, that is more catred for Army personnel (Militaryforums is Royal Marine dominated) then you might find yourself surrounded by people with different storys to tell.

Anyway cheers Cav-Lad

Welcome back Jed. I was sure that you stayed overnight in Calgary to watch the game, Calgary lost 1-0 How was your trip in Alberta?

Aye - Andy.