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Royal Marines Commando - It's a State of Mind.

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AJtothemax wrote:
DWW wrote:Was being trained by one of the best in the business, and with my podiatrists help, I did no impact exercises whatsoever, and it had no bearing on my shins. If I'd ran while carrying that mass it would have created more problems, but I didn't. It actually helped build the strength in my tib/fib which supported the lower leg more. Most of the rehab exercises prescribed were conducive to hypertrophy, and I really don't want to seem confrontational as you seem a decent bloke, but in this instance you're wrong I'm afraid mate.

Don't worry though, I still love you lol :lol:
Who's this best in the business then mate?

Well, not knowing how you trained and what your coniditon was or how you went about things would make me wrong wouldn't it.

There's no possible way I could have known. 8)

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AJtothemax wrote:I'm not doctor or a physio though.
No, fair one mate.

A PT that has worked with amateur bodybuilders, including some NABBA placed guys. And a lady. Also used to train with a former British Powerlifting champ, now he was a unit!
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Cool Hand Luke wrote:DWW, when it comes to bodybuilding though mate even 'the best in business' are not exactly pictures of health are they?
That largely depends on whether they were 'natural' bodybuilders. Obviously the gear monkeys have the associated health issues.

Still, that's all behind me now, and going back to more appropriate training, and really enjoying it too to be honest.
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Yeah you're right, probably a big difference between the NPC guys and the UKBFF heavyweights in terms of health lol

How did you find jacking in the bodybuilding? I have recently done the same. Found it very disheartening losing all the size at first, but in myself I feel so much better now through doing more endurance work.
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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Same here to some extent, I have worked very hard to gain size and strength over the last few years and was very proud of my achievements, and to see it all falling away is a little hard to swallow, as it happens so quickly! However, as you say, I feel a lot better in myself, fitter and more energetic, not restricted by having to shovel in 1000 cals every 3 hours etc etc.

The easiest way for me to explain it is to say RM is something I have wanted since I was 16, and when I packed it in I still felt the need to train and push myself, so bodybuilding was an option I took. Now that I have the chance to give it another go bodybuilding falls by the wayside, in terms of how much it means to me. Hitting the 3 mile mark 5 minutes faster than a fortnight ago meant so much more to me than pumping out a 120k bench press if that makes sense.

Without a doubt bodybuilding is the pursuit of young, vain men generally speaking. I am now training to achieve a long term ambition, to embrace a lifestyle choice and hopefully do something with my life that others maybe couldn't. Whereas any fool can curl a barbell.
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DWW wrote:Same here to some extent, I have worked very hard to gain size and strength over the last few years and was very proud of my achievements, and to see it all falling away is a little hard to swallow, as it happens so quickly! However, as you say, I feel a lot better in myself, fitter and more energetic, not restricted by having to shovel in 1000 cals every 3 hours etc etc.

The easiest way for me to explain it is to say RM is something I have wanted since I was 16, and when I packed it in I still felt the need to train and push myself, so bodybuilding was an option I took. Now that I have the chance to give it another go bodybuilding falls by the wayside, in terms of how much it means to me. Hitting the 3 mile mark 5 minutes faster than a fortnight ago meant so much more to me than pumping out a 120k bench press if that makes sense.

Without a doubt bodybuilding is the pursuit of young, vain men generally speaking. I am now training to achieve a long term ambition, to embrace a lifestyle choice and hopefully do something with my life that others maybe couldn't. Whereas any fool can curl a barbell.
Couldnt agree more with everything you just said.
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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DWW wrote:Same here to some extent, I have worked very hard to gain size and strength over the last few years and was very proud of my achievements, and to see it all falling away is a little hard to swallow, as it happens so quickly! However, as you say, I feel a lot better in myself, fitter and more energetic, not restricted by having to shovel in 1000 cals every 3 hours etc etc.

The easiest way for me to explain it is to say RM is something I have wanted since I was 16, and when I packed it in I still felt the need to train and push myself, so bodybuilding was an option I took. Now that I have the chance to give it another go bodybuilding falls by the wayside, in terms of how much it means to me. Hitting the 3 mile mark 5 minutes faster than a fortnight ago meant so much more to me than pumping out a 120k bench press if that makes sense.

Without a doubt bodybuilding is the pursuit of young, vain men generally speaking. I am now training to achieve a long term ambition, to embrace a lifestyle choice and hopefully do something with my life that others maybe couldn't. Whereas any fool can curl a barbell.
Good effort mate. I know exactly what you mean there. But bodybuilding also teaches you an awful lot doesn't it. Really, I took any nothing but positive experience's and knowledge from weight training.

I've got to stop thinking about the issue with your legs. It's doing my nut in as I've been doing some research but I can't quite find out what it is.

If the professional's have no idea, that puts me sh*t out of luck then doesn't it. :P
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I did at least take determination, training consistency and an element of self discipline from BBing though. Oh, and one or two young lady's hearts lol.

I'm no specialist, but I still read around the subject plenty! Feel free to keep going lol!

If Stevie Wonder threw enough darts he'd eventually hit a bullseye.
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DWW wrote:I'm no specialist, but I still read around the subject plenty! Feel free to keep going lol!

If Stevie Wonder threw enough darts he'd eventually hit a bullseye.
:lol: I've got to get my study head back on then. Most of that I left behind when I finished college. Most times I say to members "seek professional medical help" instead of talking to a bunch of people on a forum who aren't qualified.

You should never stop reading around the subject's, especially when it comes down to training. I'm sure you know but you should never be too quick to accept one type of thinking on a subject.
DWW wrote:I did at least take determination, training consistency and an element of self discipline from BBing though
Exactly my point. It does help with getting used to the idea of repetition and disapline with routine if you get pretty religious with it.

When do you have your PJFT?
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No idea yet. I'm going to do 'the form' in the new year I think. I'm hoping it should set me in the right time frame to hopefully begin RT around July.

That should give me adequate time to get my fitness nailed down, sort my life out etc.
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Ok mate.

Personally, I would be keeping myself fit, gaining more knowledge of the Corps (histroy, Ethos, units, commando tests etc) and I would be chasing down this medical problem to see if I can get it resolved asap.
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Yea, I've even quit my very well paid management job, to get more time to dedicate to training... :o

The stuff I had to learn for POC is coming back slowly, but as far as I am concerned my legs are going to be ok for this. My fitness is letting me down before my legs at the moment, and bizarrely the recovery time after a run is decreasing :-? :-?

I'm just a freak of nature I think.
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DWW wrote:Yea, I've even quit my very well paid management job, to get more time to dedicate to training... :o

The stuff I had to learn for POC is coming back slowly, but as far as I am concerned my legs are going to be ok for this. My fitness is letting me down before my legs at the moment, and bizarrely the recovery time after a run is decreasing :-? :-?

I'm just a freak of nature I think.
That's good. I hope your legs are fine and when you start training for stamina they'll be ok.
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What are your plans at the moment exactly?
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DWW wrote:What are your plans at the moment exactly?
PRMC and RT in the new year mate.
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DWW, just out of interest were you managging 8 chin-ups when you were 245 lbs, if so then yes you are a freak of nature lol
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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