Would you vote for the BNP?

Cronkilla · Post by **Cronkilla** » Fri 02 May, 2003 10:16 am

I would vote for the BNP. I am concerned as to people views on the BNP being racist thou. Yes to some extent there views may be percieved to be racist but for the most part they are fighting for british people and not against ethnic minorities. I also agree there are some fractions that un-officially connect themselves to the BNP. BNP would attract these 'right wing' people simply because they view them as being racist and they share some of there views. I think the BNP is treading a VERY thin line between a political party and a racist organisation.

dan · Post by **dan** » Fri 02 May, 2003 10:47 am

Cronkilla wrote:Yes to some extent there views may be percieved to be racist but for the most part they are fighting for british people and not against ethnic minorities.

No, actually the BNP is against ethnic minorities. The BNP wants to work towards an almost isolationist Britain, void of nearly all minorities (be it ethnic, sexuality etc.) and cut off from most of the world. It has extreme views on trade and commerce that could easily take Britain back into the dark ages and all in the ridiculous name of National Identity, a common cover for fear, hatred and prejudice. And i'm sorry, but any way you look at it, the BNP's tolerance of extreme right-wing elements is as good as endorsement. Maybe not the Nazi party reformed, as someone correctly pointed out, but a party that has far too much in common to be acceptable to a freedom loving country.

Not that I can't understand the BNP's appeal, it does present a front of firm stabilty and traditional values that the Council elections have proven to be enticing to quite a lot of people. However, I still can't ignore the fact that this partys foundation seems to be one of hatred.

Drum @ Bass Solider · Post by **Drum @ Bass Solider** » Fri 02 May, 2003 2:33 pm

I would vote for the BNP. I am concerned as to people views on the BNP being racist thou. Yes to some extent there views may be percieved to be racist but for the most part they are fighting for british people and not against ethnic minorities. I also agree there are some fractions that un-officially connect themselves to the BNP. BNP would attract these 'right wing' people simply because they view them as being racist and they share some of there views. I think the BNP is treading a VERY thin line between a political party and a racist organisation.

I am glad that there is party out there fighting 4 the British people, because the rest don't give a shit. It's a shame that the only people supporting the British people instead of the illegal immigrants is the BNP. I don't support all the views of the BNP, but I can relate to what they say. I think if more people voted 4 the BNP it might scare the other parties into putting its people before immigrants legally or illegal.

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Spannerman · Post by **Spannerman** » Fri 02 May, 2003 2:50 pm

I feel you are right drum, but of 20000 seats on local elections the BNP have just tripled their amount from 5 seats to 16, a very small percentage, but is that % getting a message over to Presidente Elect El Tone, I bleeding well hope so!

Budgie · Post by **Budgie** » Fri 02 May, 2003 3:25 pm

When the electorate are dissatisfied with the main stream policies then the extremist parties (Right or Left) have a chance to step into the void.

I am not sure but I believe my local council has gone from Labour (put a red rosette on a pig and it would get elected Labour) to independent control. I switched to independent purely because the mainstream parties seemed more interested in trying to discredit each other rather than put any kind of firm policy forward.

I wonder if this trend would be reflected nationally?

JulesB · Post by **JulesB** » Fri 02 May, 2003 3:37 pm

My local councillor is Independent. Has been him for years, thing is the only time we ever see him is the two weeks preceeding vote day and he appears in the pub and makes one bottle of Orangina last two hours! I dont think he's realised weve all cottoned onto him though

Why on earth we keep voting in someone who spends his life sitting on the fence is beyond me!

The only media worthy statement he's ever made was to suggest that the geese that live down by the river in Bedford should be culled because 'they make too much of a mess'

One N@tion · Post by **One N@tion** » Wed 07 May, 2003 12:01 pm

I am glad that there is party out there fighting 4 the British people, because the rest don't give a shit. It's a shame that the only people supporting the British people instead of the illegal immigrants is the BNP. I don't support all the views of the BNP, but I can relate to what they say. I think if more people voted 4 the BNP it might scare the other parties into putting its people before immigrants legally or illegal.

Well if more people voted BNP then maybe Tony The Tiger and Ian Duncan Smith might get off there asses and sort there parties out.

dan · Post by **dan** » Wed 07 May, 2003 12:17 pm

One N@tion wrote:
I am glad that there is party out there fighting 4 the British people, because the rest don't give a shit. It's a shame that the only people supporting the British people instead of the illegal immigrants is the BNP. I don't support all the views of the BNP, but I can relate to what they say. I think if more people voted 4 the BNP it might scare the other parties into putting its people before immigrants legally or illegal.
Well if more people voted BNP then maybe Tony The Tiger and Ian Duncan Smith might get off there asses and sort there parties out.

Once again, I must say that to make two profile names to support your own arguements is really a rather dull idea. PLEASE stop quoting yourself and stop agreeing with yourself!

One N@tion · Post by **One N@tion** » Wed 07 May, 2003 12:49 pm

One N@tion wrote:
Quote:
I am glad that there is party out there fighting 4 the British people, because the rest don't give a shit. It's a shame that the only people supporting the British people instead of the illegal immigrants is the BNP. I don't support all the views of the BNP, but I can relate to what they say. I think if more people voted 4 the BNP it might scare the other parties into putting its people before immigrants legally or illegal.

Well if more people voted BNP then maybe Tony The Tiger and Ian Duncan Smith might get off there asses and sort there parties out.

Once again, I must say that to make two profile names to support your own arguements is really a rather dull idea. PLEASE stop quoting yourself and stop agreeing with yourself!

What r u talking about ?? This is the first time I have been on this web site. It was recommended to me buy a mate that has just joined the army. He said it was a great source of information. Just because I agree with some of Drum @ Bass Solider points does not mean that I am him does it ?? Who is he any way ?? And Why do u think I am him ??

dan · Post by **dan** » Wed 07 May, 2003 1:22 pm

None of this is definitive proof, but it all adds up to a pretty good arguement!

1) 'Drum @ Bass Solider' disappears after several fairly inflammatory and immature remarks. Then 'One N@tion' appears almost instantly.

2) Both profile names are Drum & Bass references.

3) Both feature an '@'

4) Both individuals insist on using 'u' for 'you' and 4 for 'for'. Admittedly this is fairly common in the Joining forum but the consistency of this effect are fairly characteristic of both 'individuals'.

5) Both have used a little yellow emoticon with white gloves in their posts that i've never seen other members use. Therefore to see it twice in a week is unusual.

6) 'One N@tion' has insisted on agreeing with and quoting Mr. Solider on at least 3 occasions though this is bound to increase. This is ignoring the fact that 'Drum @ Bass Solider's' arguements were less than informed to begin with.

7) 'One N@tion' quoted the former and said something along the lines of 'Well done Drum @ Bass Solider'. Now i'm sceptical that a brand new member would make the same spelling mistake of 'soldier'. I certainly wouldn't, and only noticed it when Harry pointed it out. A new member would presume it said 'soldier'and write the correct form.

Both posted after each and every post ala Bruce McDonald, regardless of whether they have anything to contribute to the numerous posts they add to.

9) He PM'd me asking how I knew it was him.

10) I said 'Don't treat me like an idiot, I gave you loads of info on joining the marines.' Lo and behold a post pops up in the 'Joining' forum asking for 'any info'. Like i'd fall for that

(particularly seeing as there are so many posts clearly visible which detail how to join. Muppet!)

........I'd do more but I feel i'm unneccessarily eroding my fingertips on the keyboard. My advice 'One N@tion'? be a bit more careful about what you post, be a bit more open to what others say and i'm sure you'll be able to carry on posting. Don't act indignant, just contribute some substance to the site, that's all anyone asks. I apologise to everyone for being a pedantic tw*t but i've had a free half hour on my hands

TheCount · Post by **TheCount** » Wed 07 May, 2003 1:31 pm

Is is this not how Hitler came to power?

A disatisfied electorate with nobody left to Vote for, personally I wouldn't trust BNP to run the country, they are too closed minded.
I do however think our little Island is being taken for a ride and sucked dry by those who could just as well be placed elsewhere.

I see parts of the UK rotting away through underfunding, then I hear about extortinate ammounts of cash being paid to, for the most part Illegal Immigrants.

I see my Brother waiting almost 3 Months for a Brain Scan then I hear about proposed Hospitals specifically for our visitors from a far:x.

If some of you had tried my political compass you may find that you are subconciously in support of Blair, or like me you could have your suspicions confirmed that I believe in completely different things.
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Twenty One · Post by **Twenty One** » Wed 07 May, 2003 1:40 pm

When the BNP get the votes they do,It is the electorate that are trying to tell the other parties that if you don't change your attitude to the people of this country, we will vote for those individuals who put the UK first.Party politics in the UK stink to the high heavens of big back handers from big businesses to get them to act on their behalf instead of the voters.

K24io · Post by **K24io** » Wed 07 May, 2003 2:02 pm

voodoo sprout wrote:Personally I would not vote for the BNP, as while many of their socialist policies are better than

Socialist policies?!? How can a right-wing group wishing to limit the UK to section of the population be described as socialist?

Fantastic appeal such as " a voluntary move to all white Britain " where anyone not fitting their views would have the option of living by whatever rules they set or being free to leave the country. I saw their newest elected t*t on a channel 5 interview the other day, ex national front activist with criminal convictions for several dangerous crimes.

Why doesn't the UK have more parties then? In the Scottish elections both the green part and SSP party made significant inroads, and we had the peoples alliance etc. Do something about! I still had to spoil my paper for the council election as the 3 choices were appaling - Laobur who have done nothing, Tory - no comment required, SNP - the guy in question was dodgy as an 11 quid cruise.

The compass tells me I'm Tommy Sheridan

Now I'll argue with everyone, protest against anything and shout at all times. AT ALL TIMES!

I'm also nearly the Dalai Lama. wow.

Twenty One · Post by **Twenty One** » Wed 07 May, 2003 2:14 pm

Today in the Scottish Parliament it was swearing in day,and the Scottish Socialist objected very strongly to showing allegiance to the Queen,one particular SSP started singing a Rabbie Burns song and was told by the presiding officer to get to the back of the queue.Should the Scottish People show allegiance to the English crown?especially if we have our own Parliament.

Spannerman · Post by **Spannerman** » Wed 07 May, 2003 2:42 pm

I feel it is almost inevitable that Scotland will eventually separate from England and Wales, that is up to the people and the Scottish Parliament, although I think there will be more of an affinity to the English/Scots then there will be towards England/Europe.

I still wish that somehow we (the English) could have our say other than an election every 5 years on how the country is run, I understand in Switzerland (Still non EC and still retain the Swiss Franc and border controls) that the people of that country have a referendum on major issues and that the Government of the day abides by that vote.

I suppose it would be a bit like the Westminster MP's having a FREE Vote on Foxhunting, Hanging etc. Why shouldn't we decide ourselves, although I was against (Britain) going to war in Iraq, that couldn't be put forward on a referendum, as it would take too long but I do think that a FREE Vote across all political spectrums of the Westminster MP's should have reflected the views of the individual MP rather than those having to tow a 'three line whip' to safeguard their future positions. By allowing that, is to me, democracy.

I really feel that we need to shake our Parliament by the ba££s and get democracy back on it's feet rather than having (an almost) three way split in voting attitudes from 25% - 33% of the total electorate, that is absolutely pathetic.................! [/u]

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