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Weeks headlines: Blair is Chavscum + RAF gay pride
There is a time and place for everything. Even gayness. But not in the armed forces. The last thing you want to see is two gay soldiers flirting with eachother, never mind humping eachother.
"The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction."
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins
No need to worry,
I was reading a book awhile ago on western militaries positions in regards to several modern political issues. Ie. women, homosexuals, etc.
Each chapter was on a different countries stance written by i believe a representative of the MoD, DND, etc.
The most lax country appeared to be the US armed forces in regards to homosexuals, followed by Canada.
But Britain and Germany in particular had an essentially 'between you and me' policy of exclusion to homosexuals.
In the modern west, no one can out right say 'sorry, your a fag, you cannot apply'.
But the germans have a system of (if someone was discovered to be a butt pirate) taking them to the Doc and being let go for reasons of creating bad morale.
I'll try and find the book to clarify.
Point is...no need to worry...yet.
I was reading a book awhile ago on western militaries positions in regards to several modern political issues. Ie. women, homosexuals, etc.
Each chapter was on a different countries stance written by i believe a representative of the MoD, DND, etc.
The most lax country appeared to be the US armed forces in regards to homosexuals, followed by Canada.
But Britain and Germany in particular had an essentially 'between you and me' policy of exclusion to homosexuals.
In the modern west, no one can out right say 'sorry, your a fag, you cannot apply'.
But the germans have a system of (if someone was discovered to be a butt pirate) taking them to the Doc and being let go for reasons of creating bad morale.
I'll try and find the book to clarify.
Point is...no need to worry...yet.
I found this on Annova. Could be the shape of things to come.
German soldiers allowed to have sex with each other
Germany has introduced a new guideline allowing sex between members of its armed forces.
While sex during work hours will continue to be considered a "disruption of service operations", the new ruling is more liberal on what soldiers do during their free time.
Provided it involves two consenting adults, the new regulation permits "both heterosexual and homosexual relationships and activities", writes Bild daily.
Differences in rank are also considered no obstacle.
The new rules also apply to troops stationed in the Balkans and in Afghanistan.
They even call for commanders to use "organisationsal and other measures" to provide "room for personal development."
The new directive comes as a welcome change for the 253,000 men and 10,600 women serving in German forces.
But it still means they have to be discreet about what they do, making sure none of their activities violates their "soldier's duty to behave respectably
German soldiers allowed to have sex with each other
Germany has introduced a new guideline allowing sex between members of its armed forces.
While sex during work hours will continue to be considered a "disruption of service operations", the new ruling is more liberal on what soldiers do during their free time.
Provided it involves two consenting adults, the new regulation permits "both heterosexual and homosexual relationships and activities", writes Bild daily.
Differences in rank are also considered no obstacle.
The new rules also apply to troops stationed in the Balkans and in Afghanistan.
They even call for commanders to use "organisationsal and other measures" to provide "room for personal development."
The new directive comes as a welcome change for the 253,000 men and 10,600 women serving in German forces.
But it still means they have to be discreet about what they do, making sure none of their activities violates their "soldier's duty to behave respectably
"The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction."
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins
This post has been quite amusing. Most of the posters are lost in some sort of fantasy illusion that gays in the military are bad. Far from it, they have been in the military since the beginning. Bigotted opinions do nothing but just show you up to be morons.
The reason for the RAF recruiters being at the gay pride march was to show that the Services are embracing diversity. The D word is vitally important if we are to continue to have an Armed Force at all. White, hetro, males are the smallest representative group in the country. It only makes sense for the Armed Forces to actively understand diverse cultures and beliefs in order to be truly competitive in the job market. Thats why all 3 service Chiefs spend an increasing amount of time with the Commission for Racial Equality, Ethnic Groups and Gay, Lesbian and Transgender groups.
If you can do the job who gives a monkeys what your sexual orientation, ethnic background is. Its doing the job that matters.
And finally a quote from goreD
"In my humble opinion HOMOSEXUALS should NOT be allowed to serve in the Armed Forces."
Wasn't one of most respected Generals in fact GAY - thats right old Monty himself - so to goreD - what is your business case for exclusion as above?
The reason for the RAF recruiters being at the gay pride march was to show that the Services are embracing diversity. The D word is vitally important if we are to continue to have an Armed Force at all. White, hetro, males are the smallest representative group in the country. It only makes sense for the Armed Forces to actively understand diverse cultures and beliefs in order to be truly competitive in the job market. Thats why all 3 service Chiefs spend an increasing amount of time with the Commission for Racial Equality, Ethnic Groups and Gay, Lesbian and Transgender groups.
If you can do the job who gives a monkeys what your sexual orientation, ethnic background is. Its doing the job that matters.
And finally a quote from goreD
"In my humble opinion HOMOSEXUALS should NOT be allowed to serve in the Armed Forces."
Wasn't one of most respected Generals in fact GAY - thats right old Monty himself - so to goreD - what is your business case for exclusion as above?
This thread seems to have got off the point a bit.
I said at the begining the MOD should spend its money better on recruitment. The whole 'gay float' things is basically a load of 'PC' bollox in my humble opinion.
Gays can be gay, I'm not a facist. Why do they need a f**k**g pride day, do you see hetrosexuals out on floats saying 'I'm proud'. NO. They are segregating themselves and acting like facists...........you get 'gay only' bars in Brighton. Surely thats as bad as having 'white only' bars..........yet they get away with acting like that!
Yes, Bernard Montgomery was gay..........
I said at the begining the MOD should spend its money better on recruitment. The whole 'gay float' things is basically a load of 'PC' bollox in my humble opinion.
Gays can be gay, I'm not a facist. Why do they need a f**k**g pride day, do you see hetrosexuals out on floats saying 'I'm proud'. NO. They are segregating themselves and acting like facists...........you get 'gay only' bars in Brighton. Surely thats as bad as having 'white only' bars..........yet they get away with acting like that!
Yes, Bernard Montgomery was gay..........
I wanna see written evidence that montgomery was gay.
TJD...just how many active service men/women do u know? I would bet you a million quid u couldn't find me more than maybe 5-7 percent who approved of gays in active duty, never mind front line positions.
TJD, i totally disagree, i think views such as yours will be/are the ruin of countries.
Diversity started with women in combat roles and now its going further. There is no end to this 'diversity'...it will keep going until it collapses the whole structure.
TJD...just how many active service men/women do u know? I would bet you a million quid u couldn't find me more than maybe 5-7 percent who approved of gays in active duty, never mind front line positions.
TJD, i totally disagree, i think views such as yours will be/are the ruin of countries.
Diversity started with women in combat roles and now its going further. There is no end to this 'diversity'...it will keep going until it collapses the whole structure.
Ref gays in the armed forces, I personally think its a NO NO!!!. Doesn’t mean they cant be gay, just don’t have them in the forces is all.
I personally like the idea of gay only bars, that way they wont have any need to come to "our" bars and be gay in front of normal people.
I don’t have really have any problems with "them" as a group, as long as they don’t flaunt it as no matter what anyone says it isn’t normal and I don’t want to see it when I go out.
lew
I personally like the idea of gay only bars, that way they wont have any need to come to "our" bars and be gay in front of normal people.
I don’t have really have any problems with "them" as a group, as long as they don’t flaunt it as no matter what anyone says it isn’t normal and I don’t want to see it when I go out.
lew
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Stop being small-minded homophobes, I feel embarrassed to frequent a forum with you all.
Do you people even know someone who is gay? they are not raging sex addicts with the libido of a randy dog. They are not going to try and rape or abuse you. They can do your job or any job aswell as anyone else.
And Lew, they are 'normal' too mate.
Do you people even know someone who is gay? they are not raging sex addicts with the libido of a randy dog. They are not going to try and rape or abuse you. They can do your job or any job aswell as anyone else.
And Lew, they are 'normal' too mate.
I don't and never have rated 'Monty". He killed thousands of our troops in Market Garden needlessly and the ONLY reason he beat Rommel was because of ULTRA.TJD wrote:Wasn't one of most respected Generals in fact GAY - thats right old Monty himself - so to goreD - what is your business case for exclusion as above?
If this offends anyone TOUGH.
P.S. I still don't think that Sodomites should be allowed to serve in our ARMED FORCES.
GORE.
Mexican bandit, "Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Homophobes? Ah the name calling now. I find Sodomites disgusting and believe that the physical act Sodomy should still be illegal. Are you aware what Homophobe means? I suggest you look it up in the dictionary if you don't. This word is used as a slur against right thinking god fearing Christians who express their view against an act that is against natural law and until recently was against our own Countries law. People are what they are. I am not advocating anything EXCEPT banning SODOMITES from our Armed Forces. Having served in the Armed Forces I feel slightly qualified to comment on this.KlinkKlank wrote:Stop being small-minded homophobes, I feel embarrassed to frequent a forum with you all.
If you don't like it TOUGH.
Gore.
Mexican bandit, "Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
That's not necessary. I would be happy with a blanket ban on SODOMITES being able to serve in our Armed Forces.KlinkKlank wrote:Lets burn them at the stake Gore.
Gore.
P.S. KlinkKlank, A well written and formulated argument there.
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Mexican bandit, "Badges?! We don't need no stinking badges....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
Major Kong, "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in vegas with all that stuff....."
Gore, "The first casualty of war is your underpants....."
As a born again Christian I obey the word of God and it states in the Bible that Homosexuality is wrong. If you want to practice it then go ahead. God will punish you in the end. When he created us, God provided each and every one of us with free will. I do not hate Homosexuals and would not raise so much as an eyebrow against one. It is the act of homosexuality that I cannot stand. Gays and Lesbians, like the rest of us are God's children and should be treated as such but that does not mean we have to accept their perverted ways.
Let he that is without sin cast the first stone.
Let he that is without sin cast the first stone.
"The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction."
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Collins
