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Post by Redhand »

ok in seriousness now Sny,

What do you mean 'he made sure there were no weapons'?
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I was jesting, although not completely. Why do you think Chimpo hasn't attacked North Korea? It's too hard, and they might have nukes which means it would be too costly. Why do you think he won't attack Iran? Same reason. He attacked Iraq because he thought they'd be a pushover. He thought that because the man's functionally retarded and never read about what happened to British when they did occupied Iraq in the 1920s.

Why didn't Bush do the reading? Because the man literally cannot read. Someday we will be told that George W. Bush was America's first illiterate president, and that his illiteracy was something of a problem not just for him but for the country. The guy is mentally incompetent for any job, let alone the one he has. It is blindingly obvious. It's right out of Hans Christian Anderson. But I digress. 8)
[i]To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was a coward; any idea of moderation was just another attempt to disguise one's unmanly character; ability to understand the question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action; fanatical enthusiasm was the mark of a real man -- Thucydides[/i]
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Well i agree with you for once Snyman.

But i don't think Bush is anything special when it comes to not wanting to tangle with powers who present a real danger. That, or so it would seem, has been an American trait. I'm not throwing around cowardice here, as America is supposed to be a Republic but ends up getting caught up in Empire/Colonial type deals.

Snyder, i think your a smart guy. But i think your only clouding possibly better judgement with this hellspawn hate for Dubya. It appears in all of your posts.

Question: How many 'functionally retarded' people can fly fighter jet aircraft? And if they can (which i have no doubt you'll claim) show me evidence of it.
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I was reading not so long ago that a certain American General ordered the British troops to attack and Irian patrol that had crossed the border in to Irqa. Well it worked out that they refused, and a quick message to Whiterhall and another call from there had the Irians removed with out the use force. Now it could been that some one would have had their wish for a war with Iran.
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Right, if I'm not mistaken that was US general Ricardo Sanchez.
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Post by Wholley »

Snyder,
your last is ridiculous in the extreme.
Just keep up the hatred and name calling and towing the party line.
When Kerry drops the left like hot shit if he gets elected how are people like you and Michael Moore going to feel?
Betrayed again I suppose.
Less of the Hilary/Pelosi rhetoric and more sensible debate.
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Oh BTW this does not belong in Gen Disc.
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wholley wrote:Oh BTW this does not belong in Gen Disc.
Damn straight.
And I've had it with comments like this:
Snyder wrote: man's functionally retarded.
They could teach you a couple things about what being human is about.


Out.
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Post by snyder »

Several things to respond to. Not necessarily in order:
  • It might or might not belong in the General Discussion forum, but if the comment was in any way aimed at me I would invite wholley and Frank S. to go to the first page of the thread and count the number of postings prior to mine. Unless my eyes deceive me, I think I was #12.
  • I don't "hate" George W. Bush. I have intensely negative feelings about his actions, his character and the people who surround him, but not "hatred." The only person I can recall hating in recent years was a Palestinian woman who was pictured on CNN yodeling with joy on 9/11. If I could have done so, I'd have killed her myself. Months later, I learned that the film wasn't even taken on 9/11. It was supplied by the Israeli government to manipulate U.S. public opinion, and CNN re-broadcast it without checking its authenticity. It was the beginning of tidal wave of propaganda that got us to where we are today.
  • I'm not particularly left-wing. I'm a standard issue FDR/Truman/JFK Democrat. To some people here that's as good as being a commie, but there's quite a bit of difference. For example, I don't have a single objection to the decision to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and I didn't bat an eyelash when Bush's father launched Gulf War I for the oil while saying it was to liberate Kuwait. But the Iraq War was different for all kinds of reasons. When Chimp-in-Chief said there were WMD in Iraq I supported it. I only turned against it when it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this was a lie.
  • All that said, I still want Bush to succeed in Iraq because it's in our national interest to succeed. I just don't think he will succeed, because I think he has structured the whole thing in such a way that he can do nothing but blunder. I greatly sympathize with Kerry's difficulty in boiling this down to a bumper sticker. "Bush Lied, The Soliders Died" isn't good enough, and I'm glad Kerry hasn't gone there. It's a hell of situation, and we need a smart man in the White House.
  • I am mystified that Bush somehow figured out how to fly a fighter jet. I didn't think you could be that stupid yet fly a fighter plane. I wonder if he actually did it.
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snyder wrote: but if the comment was in any way aimed at me
Not particularly, but this was:
Frank S. wrote: And I've had it with comments like this:

Snyder wrote:
man's functionally retarded.


They could teach you a couple things about what being human is about.
But I've no doubt at all you can come up with some kind of rationalization for that 'interesting' dichotomy I've pointed out to you before.
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Believe it or not, I actually feel a little bit guilty about insulting the retarded. I need to stop that. Besides, it's a tad bit bumper-stickerish. Maybe if I should come up with new and colorful ways to say "blindingly stupid." But then someone is going to resent me for the one-liners. Talk about rocks and hard places.
[i]To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was a coward; any idea of moderation was just another attempt to disguise one's unmanly character; ability to understand the question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action; fanatical enthusiasm was the mark of a real man -- Thucydides[/i]
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snyder wrote: But then someone is going to resent me for the one-liners. Talk about rocks and hard places.
Don't be so coy. As to one liners, they can be just fine as long as they're smart, that should go without saying.
Anyway, back on topic.
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Post by snyder »

Geez, I forgot to include one point in my defense. I will do that and then stop for a while at least.
  • I have not seen Fahrenheit 911. I'm so-so on Michael Moore, but I will admit to getting a huge charge out of Al Franken. Anyone who can make Bill O'Reilly drool on his suit and drop a load in his trou is a hero in my book! 8)
[i]To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was a coward; any idea of moderation was just another attempt to disguise one's unmanly character; ability to understand the question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action; fanatical enthusiasm was the mark of a real man -- Thucydides[/i]
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I'd like to make a huge charge out of Franken too.
Failed radio show,can't compete with Rush who uses facts to back up his arguements.Instead just insults the president with infantile"Big fat liar"Jibes,now who does that sound like?
Someone move this thread to where it belongs.
It's obvious that some gullible Brits are going to fall in with Synders glib little knee jerks,so to avoid anymore hassle perleeez put this in Political Affairs where the rest of you guys can ignore it.
Pretty please?
Loz,Harry,Stix,El Prez?Plog's?Anyone?
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Snyder the retard joke needs to cool out, Frank told you that comparing Bush with that word is insulting to the mentally handicapped.
Retarded people I figure shouldn't be used to moch the president. They have it hard enough, plus they can't help themselves. Moms cousin Gene was retarded, nice guy, do anything you asked him, and smile all the while. His mom died about 5 years back and he died a year or two after.
Now Bush is IQ deficient, an ignoramous imo. He did think Iraq was going to fall over and then we'd all live happily ever after. Any general who said different Rummy canned. When the Turks told us no on the northern invasion plan I knew it was going to be even harder. It was how I ended up here. Look at my first few postings, I was banned for saying this war was going to go bad over a year ago.
There isn't anything Kerry can do to fix this, it can't be fixed. Iraq wasn't a threat. No Navy, no airforce. We have most of the middle east in our pockets.
We also have better nukes. Russia, China and us all want one thing in the region, oil. Just no one can seem to say it. Coalition should be us three. UK and the others are fine, but this is really our three's fight.
Iran is talking big along with NK. We could have backed Saddam exclusively and let him reinvade them, do his worst, and should he get too bold, we red phone him or something sinisterly worse. Then there is NK, China could use some land, give them some sweet trade deals, some arms and lets walk south with them and just erase any sign of the NK people and regime. Simple solutions. Then make some deals with Russia and we all three test our nukes on 3 of Afgahnistans largest cities and then free fire zone tora bora. Send some teams into Pakistan and disarm their nukes and feed them to India, let the British lead that one, they and the Indians work well together.
But who cares really? The good old days are gone for a long time if not forever, gone before I was born actually.
Withdrawl your faith in man and politicians and place it with Jesus, only Jesus saves.
We cannot master this world, it isn't ours to master. Glad we dumped God from this nation in the 50's, we've never had so much peace and tranquility. LKord will be back soon, and some ass is going to pay. Probably my ass as well, but atleast I see it coming.
Kerry, Bush? Nope I'm going to place my hopes in the lord.
Let them call me a rebel and I welcome it, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of demons were I to make a whore of my soul. (Thomas Paine)
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