I notice it mostly never is the minorities wanting the changes - but useless far-left liberals assuming it's what they want.
I read an article about this Red Cross christmas carry on. The leading man from an Islamic group said he so no problem with the Red Cross using Christian symbols and traditions to celebrate a Christian holiday, just as Christians accept Islamic traditions in his community. In his opinion it wouild stir hatred towards his and other minority religions by banning traditions.
All we can do is defy these extreme politically correct idiots who claim to create freedom yet enforce thousands of aimless laws.
I can see this chaos reaching a climax and a relolution happening.
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Cobalt it actually harms the minorities.
I called a sikh colleague over to view that card today.
He thought it "utterly stupid" and thought it would cause minorities all sorts of problems with a backlash.
I should add he was waving the "rascist" flag of st george for most of the rugby match as well, and his kids where garbed in their rugby kits ;p
I called a sikh colleague over to view that card today.
He thought it "utterly stupid" and thought it would cause minorities all sorts of problems with a backlash.
I should add he was waving the "rascist" flag of st george for most of the rugby match as well, and his kids where garbed in their rugby kits ;p
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Personally I don't mind the Red Cross banning Christmas as I do with many other PC ideas, as while normally only a few may get offended by Christian symbolism for instance, the ICRC engages with an awful lot of idiots many of whom have guns (look at the middle East for instance). And as silly as this may seem to us, the ICRC should be able to place whatever restraints on themselves they think are necessary to get their job done.
Fluffy bunnies - Grrrrr!
whitey
It's a pity you can't rethink your outlook on life. Other guys on the forum, well Aldo at least, take pains to excuse themselves that you're not a racist. [It must be that famous English reserve and politeness]
But, hey, it's my birthday so I'll give myself a present. You consistently in your posts make thinly disguised comments which, on any objective evaluation, are clear signs of Anti-semitism; racism; bigotry and other unpleasant traits. See above post for an example. Usually, you protest that you don't judge a man by race creed or colour, and then during the same post come out with comments that not so much undermine your statement, but blow it out of the water. Again, see the comment above as an example.
I feel a genuine sorrow that there are people on the planet who live their lives with some Angst-ridden perspective of other human beings. It must be awful to live such a life. Dylan said 'Rage, rage, against the dying of the light': not rage against everyone and everything you don't agree with
It seems as if anything north of the Mason-Dixon line is, by your definition, 'unworthy' in your view [or, at least 75% of them]. I bet you could come up with a better word than unworthy?! I guess those below it who don't subscribe to your views are 'traitors.'
I bet you lie awake at night seething with anger that the 'line' that seems to define your very ethnicity is named after two Englishmen!?
One definition of bigotry I saw was: An obstinate intolerance of other people's views. Does it, in anyway, ring a bell?
I guess it doesn't go far enough as a precise definition. We can all disagree with others; it's how those disagreements are manifested that seems to count, at least to me.
A while ago you mentioned that we need to find God again. The God I believe in seems to want people to 'love thy neighbour'; He's a God of compassion and forgiveness. I guess 'Peace on Earth and Goodwill to All Men' doesn't figure in your Christmas celebrations. 
Sadly, I recognize none of those traits in you.
What does your God believe in?. But if He does turn up anytime soon, I'll still be keeping Faith with mine.
It's a pity you can't rethink your outlook on life. Other guys on the forum, well Aldo at least, take pains to excuse themselves that you're not a racist. [It must be that famous English reserve and politeness]
But, hey, it's my birthday so I'll give myself a present. You consistently in your posts make thinly disguised comments which, on any objective evaluation, are clear signs of Anti-semitism; racism; bigotry and other unpleasant traits. See above post for an example. Usually, you protest that you don't judge a man by race creed or colour, and then during the same post come out with comments that not so much undermine your statement, but blow it out of the water. Again, see the comment above as an example.
I feel a genuine sorrow that there are people on the planet who live their lives with some Angst-ridden perspective of other human beings. It must be awful to live such a life. Dylan said 'Rage, rage, against the dying of the light': not rage against everyone and everything you don't agree with
It seems as if anything north of the Mason-Dixon line is, by your definition, 'unworthy' in your view [or, at least 75% of them]. I bet you could come up with a better word than unworthy?!
I guess those below it who don't subscribe to your views are 'traitors.'I bet you lie awake at night seething with anger that the 'line' that seems to define your very ethnicity is named after two Englishmen!?
One definition of bigotry I saw was: An obstinate intolerance of other people's views. Does it, in anyway, ring a bell?
I guess it doesn't go far enough as a precise definition. We can all disagree with others; it's how those disagreements are manifested that seems to count, at least to me.A while ago you mentioned that we need to find God again. The God I believe in seems to want people to 'love thy neighbour'; He's a God of compassion and forgiveness. I guess 'Peace on Earth and Goodwill to All Men' doesn't figure in your Christmas celebrations.
Sadly, I recognize none of those traits in you.
What does your God believe in?. But if He does turn up anytime soon, I'll still be keeping Faith with mine.
I don't think anyone on this forum is racist and most do say so (even though it's because they feel they have to for fear of being labeled as such) I don't even think Whitey is racist, he makes alot of odd statements but I think it's just a generalisation as aposed to a true deep seated hatred of anyone. Though I do frequently get confused by some of the things he says but that's him, he lives thousands of miles away and I don't think he's going to hurt anyone so it doesn't really bother me. I did know a real racist once but we all knew he wasn't going to do anything about it, he just looked really miserable whenever a black person was around, we just took the mick out him.Other guys on the forum, well Aldo at least, take pains to excuse themselves that you're not a racist.
"This far and no further" - Britain, World War 1 & 2
The Scottish Parliament banned Christmas. On the official Christmas cards the words "Merry Christmas" were removed and replaced with "seasons greetings". Aparently the Ethinic soon to be majority don't like Christmas on Christmas cards! 
There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.
I fear Sisyphus is probably right, Whitey has consistently exhibited an anto Jewish attitude and attributing the PC thing to Jews is just OTT, Jewish humour is self deprecating and funny, PC would not figure at all.
I have been concerned at his attitude but thought perhaps I was reading too much into it, but clearly not as Sisyphus has also registered the tendency. I had thought it was just the English who had the romantic notion of the noble Arab, lawrence of Arabia, Glub Pasha and all that. I for one never met a noble Arab, whereas I do know some Jews I respect and like.
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I have been concerned at his attitude but thought perhaps I was reading too much into it, but clearly not as Sisyphus has also registered the tendency. I had thought it was just the English who had the romantic notion of the noble Arab, lawrence of Arabia, Glub Pasha and all that. I for one never met a noble Arab, whereas I do know some Jews I respect and like.
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Not an Arab or Jew but a very good poem non the less.Rudyard Kipling wrote:I shan't forgit the night
When I dropped be'ind the fight
With a bullet where my belt-plate should 'a' been.
I was chokin' mad with thirst,
An' the man that spied me first
Was our good old grinnin', gruntin' Gunga Din.
'E lifted up my 'ead,
An' he plugged me where I bled,
An' 'e guv me 'arf-a-pint o' water-green:
It was crawlin' and it stunk,
But of all the drinks I've drunk,
I'm gratefullest to one from Gunga Din.
"This far and no further" - Britain, World War 1 & 2
at work we call one of the chefs polish because ....... yes you guessed it hes from poland. but at his previous workplace the management asked other members of the staff to not call him polish as it may alienate him and make him feel like an outsider, just another case of do gooders not doing good, polish likes being called polish he says hes proud of his country and really doesnt mind that name. the first time i met him he introduced himself as polish, so clearly hes ok with it.
PC brigade= plonkas
PC brigade= plonkas
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my second anme is gouldburn, my family are in mass graves over poland and germany, some of the lucky ones escaped to england and changed the family name from goldburg to gouldburn in order to hide the jewish name, i should hate Germans however i joined up and was sent to Germany and even married a German, (ok we divorced some years later), if anyone should hate a race i should but we cant live in the past forever, the most important thing is how our children are brought up, my daughter will know all about the Germans and what they did and when shes older we will probably get pissed on BECKS BEER together which is obviously German, you live and learn and life goes on, our fathers and grandfathers did not die for us not to learn no matter which side of the war you were on.
Exemplo Ducemus (By Example We Lead)
"Do not confuse your rank with my authority....Sir!"
"Do not confuse your rank with my authority....Sir!"
Goldiegoldie ex rmp wrote: i should hate Germans however i joined up and was sent to Germany and even married a German, (ok we divorced some years later), if anyone should hate a race i should but we cant live in the past forever,
I once met a neighbour's dad. A nice guy. Was Polish and been something in the diplomatic service [High Commisioner in Kenya - various other posts]. Henry. One day he let me feel his back. There were welted scars as thick as my fingers all over his back. He got them in labour camps in WWII. As he stroked my Dobermann
I asked him what he thought of the Germans (always the inquisitive one - interested to find out about people and what makes them tick? ) He said that he was happy to deal with them on a business level - but he'd never let one in his house. I can understand those who've suffered directly holding such views. But I never have suffered in such a way. The Battle of the Boyne's still causing problems in NI
Our best friends when we're in Spain are Irish from Dublin. [if they were bitter about the English - Irish thing, they wouldn't even walk on the same side of the street] Our best 'foreign' friends are German. We get on very well with our Spanish neighbours. Some of whom fought for and against Franco in the Spanish Civil War. They get on well with each other.
If only the whole planet could 'get it together'. The impossible dream!
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As someone `fortunate' enough to be employed in the Civil Service (and a department renown for its Christmas. oops, sorry Seasonal Cards) I enclose the latest notices about what was still referred to initially as a Christmas Party.
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 01, 2003
RE: Christmas Party
I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take place on December 23, starting at noon in the private function room at the Grill House. There will be a cash bar and plenty of drinks! We'll have a small band playing traditional carols...feel free to sing along. And don't be surprised if our Secretary of State shows up dressed as Santa Claus! A Christmas tree will be lit at 1:00pm. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over £10.00 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pockets. This gathering is only for employees! Tessa Jowell will make a special announcement at that time!
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 02, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognize that Chanukah is an important holiday, which often coincides with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year. However, from now on we're calling it our "Holiday Party." The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians or those still celebrating Reconciliation Day. There will be no Christmas tree present. No Christmas carols sung. We will have other types of music for your enjoyment.
Happy now?
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 03, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table ... you didn't sign your name. I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, "AA Only"; you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to handle this?
Somebody?
Forget about the gifts exchange, no gifts exchange are allowed since the union members feel that £10.00 is too much money and the Management Board believe £10.00 is a little chintzy.
NO GIFTS EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
To: All Employees
DATE: October 04, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20 begins the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees' beliefs. Perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party- or else package everything for you to take it home in little foil doggy baggy. Will that work? Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from
The dessert buffet and pregnant women will get the table closest to the restrooms. Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not have to sit with Gay men, each will have their own table. Yes, there will be flower arrangement for the Gay men's table. To the person asking permission to cross dress, no cross-dressing allowed though. We will have booster seats for short people. Low-fat food will be available for those on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food we suggest for those people with high blood pressure to taste first. There will be fresh fruits as dessert for Diabetics, the restaurant cannot supply "No Sugar" desserts. Sorry!
Did I miss anything?!?!?
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All ****ing Employees
DATE: October 05, 2003
RE: The ****ing Holiday Party
Vegetarian *****s I've had it with you people!!! We're going to keep this party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit quietly at the table furthest from the "grill of death," as you so quaintly put it, and you'll get your ****ing salad bar, including organic tomatoes. But you know, tomatoes have feelings, too. They scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right NOW! I hope you all have a rotten holiday! Drive drunk and die,
The Bitch from HELL!!!!!!!!
FROM: Joan Bishop, Acting Human Resources Director
DATE: October 06, 2003
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party
I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Patty Lewis a speedy recovery and I'll continue to forward your cards to her. In the meantime, management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and give everyone the afternoon of the 23rd off with full pay.
Happy Holidays!
Barry
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 01, 2003
RE: Christmas Party
I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take place on December 23, starting at noon in the private function room at the Grill House. There will be a cash bar and plenty of drinks! We'll have a small band playing traditional carols...feel free to sing along. And don't be surprised if our Secretary of State shows up dressed as Santa Claus! A Christmas tree will be lit at 1:00pm. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over £10.00 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pockets. This gathering is only for employees! Tessa Jowell will make a special announcement at that time!
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 02, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognize that Chanukah is an important holiday, which often coincides with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year. However, from now on we're calling it our "Holiday Party." The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians or those still celebrating Reconciliation Day. There will be no Christmas tree present. No Christmas carols sung. We will have other types of music for your enjoyment.
Happy now?
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 03, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table ... you didn't sign your name. I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, "AA Only"; you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to handle this?
Somebody?
Forget about the gifts exchange, no gifts exchange are allowed since the union members feel that £10.00 is too much money and the Management Board believe £10.00 is a little chintzy.
NO GIFTS EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
To: All Employees
DATE: October 04, 2003
RE: Holiday Party
What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20 begins the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees' beliefs. Perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party- or else package everything for you to take it home in little foil doggy baggy. Will that work? Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from
The dessert buffet and pregnant women will get the table closest to the restrooms. Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not have to sit with Gay men, each will have their own table. Yes, there will be flower arrangement for the Gay men's table. To the person asking permission to cross dress, no cross-dressing allowed though. We will have booster seats for short people. Low-fat food will be available for those on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food we suggest for those people with high blood pressure to taste first. There will be fresh fruits as dessert for Diabetics, the restaurant cannot supply "No Sugar" desserts. Sorry!
Did I miss anything?!?!?
Patty
FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All ****ing Employees
DATE: October 05, 2003
RE: The ****ing Holiday Party
Vegetarian *****s I've had it with you people!!! We're going to keep this party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit quietly at the table furthest from the "grill of death," as you so quaintly put it, and you'll get your ****ing salad bar, including organic tomatoes. But you know, tomatoes have feelings, too. They scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right NOW! I hope you all have a rotten holiday! Drive drunk and die,
The Bitch from HELL!!!!!!!!
FROM: Joan Bishop, Acting Human Resources Director
DATE: October 06, 2003
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party
I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Patty Lewis a speedy recovery and I'll continue to forward your cards to her. In the meantime, management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and give everyone the afternoon of the 23rd off with full pay.
Happy Holidays!
Barry
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