Where to start?

[ADDiction]

you did not answer his question. you just wanted to remind people (again) that you were in the marines, which infact u were not.... u were were in recruit training,.

You are not worthy. You have no reason to give anyone on this site a hard time, about anything.

Stay in school and learn some grammar, you pathetic piece of shit.

[tom163]

you did not answer his question. you just wanted to remind people (again) that you were in the marines, which infact u were not.... u were were in recruit training,.

You are not worthy. You have no reason to give anyone on this site a hard time, about anything.

Stay in school and learn some grammar, you pathetic piece of shit.

No one could have said it better.

[jabcrosshook]

you did not answer his question. you just wanted to remind people (again) that you were in the marines, which infact u were not.... u were were in recruit training,.

Well technically he was a Royal Marine, once you sign that dotted line you are counted as being among the Royal Marines, your just not a Royal Marines Commando.
That's why they don't like it if people drop out because that means the numbers of the RM goes down, it's the same for every regiment and corps.

[Stokey_14]

Not trying to pick apart anyone’s post here but Tom163 said...

1. Dont do much cycling/biking as it shortns your back hamstrings which is no good for running.

Now I have always been lead to believe that you can't shorten or change the shape of a particular muscle (apart from making it bigger or allowing it to get smaller). As far as I know muscle "shape" is mainly genetic therefore surely you're hamstrings do not get shorter as a result of cycling. They may grow, become stronger, lose fat from around that area etc... but actually decreasing in length surely that would mean the leg would constantly be bent?

I do believe that running will be more beneficial to you than cycling but I’m not quite sure about Tom163's comment.

Not having a go or anything, just wondering weather someone could prove my idea right or wrong.

Stokey

[Mr_Kiwi]

maybe the muscle itself doesnt reduce in length, maybe it just makes it harder to put through a full range of motion, or the flexability is reduced? Im not sure, just throwing ideas out.

[Stokey_14]

maybe the muscle itself doesnt reduce in length, maybe it just makes it harder to put through a full range of motion, or the flexability is reduced? Im not sure, just throwing ideas out.

Hmmm, possibly, but then surely it would just be a lack of flexibility which could be improved with some flexibility specific training. Can't image cycling making you less flexible ... this sound like a job for super Spence (MFAT's Master of all things sporting and confusing )!


Stokey

P.S. Like I say I’m not saying any of this for argument sake... just wondering is all .

[tom163]

I was a bit unsure about posting that myself but I got that peice of info from a my dads mate who was a ex Para and he was on the Selection Committee for the 22 SAS, because it was him who told me I believed the infomation to be true but now im not sure if he ment something else or what im not sure. Ill try and get some confimation on if it actually has any effect on muscles and running.

[Starwon]

unfitwanabee im in exactly the same situation as you but i left school and went straight in to an office job been here 4 years now and i've piled on the weight trust me it was the worse thing i decided to do

[Wholley]

which infact u were not.... u were were in recruit training,.

Leave the text speak for your Nokia,
If you don't mind.
Please.

[Spence]

Regarding the issue of muscle shortening, what has been mentioned already is correct; it is mainly down to inflexibility limiting the full range of movement at particular joints and the associated muscles.

This is an issue in cycling because the movement pattern is limited (the knee is never fully flexed or extended). Make sure an effective flexibility regime is adhered to on top of your current training programme if you feel it could be causing a problem. Deep tissue or myofascial release could also be an option.

Hope that has cleared things up a little.
Spence

PS cheers for the plug Stokey

[tom163]

Thanks for clearing that up Spence

[Stokey_14]

Cheer's for that Spence. All it was is that I had seen on a number of occasions on the internet and in book's etc that muscle shape couldn't be changed, one of the reason’s why genetics can play a big part in sports such as body building etc... or at least that’s what I’ve herd.

PS cheers for the plug Stokey

no problem Anytime

Stokey

[Mr_Kiwi]

HEY! wheres the 'Wow your onto to it Kiwi!' or the 'Good thinking Kiwi! Your a smart fella for working that out by yourself!'

I am sad... sad and disapointed!

[Stokey_14]

HEY! wheres the 'Wow your onto to it Kiwi!' or the 'Good thinking Kiwi! Your a smart fella for working that out by yourself!'

I am sad... sad and disappointed!

O yes erm... Mr_Kiwi, sorry for got about you there ... Well you're not to bad... I guess

Just pulling you're leg mate. Well done on that one.

Stokey

[Alfa]

I think you'd only have problems from cycling if that was all you ever did, but if you cycle as well as run I can't see it being too much of a problem especially as you should be stretching before and after each training session anyway.

If you take a look at triathalons and iron man competitions I think you'll soon see that it won't harm your running performance.

Take the World Ironman Championships for example:

the race encompasses three endurance events of a 2.4 mile (3.86 kilometre) ocean swim, followed by a 112 mile (180.2 kilometre) bike ride and ending with a 26 7/32 mile (42.195 kilometre) marathon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon

Hat's off to anyone who can complete that!!