Pushing your comfort zone.

[JCAP3]

well its something I could definatly build upto.

hm Illl give it a go.

I originally did 2.4 km for a challenge but i found out that if i could do that i could hang on and do the whole 3 miles. It really tests your motivation to not press the stop button though.

[tom_06]

go running outdoors cross country and just really go for it until you feel like crying, then when finished just bash out as many pushups, pullups, situps burpees etc as you can.

[AJtothemax]

Andy, check you PM's mate.

[rgj-rifleman]

Train within your comfort zone, you'll recover faster and improve faster as a consequence.

Train to failure and your body will eventually do just that, fail.

ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!!!!

I know a girl i used to work with who has been running in her comfort zone for 5 months and can only run for a maximum of 25 minutes at a slow pace. My mum managed to go from no running, to running a marathon in 3 months. You train outside your comfort zone to get fitter, because your body is always trying to get fitter to match how far you push your body. Why do you think Royal Marine Commando are absolutly knackered after a PT session, because they are constantly outside their comfort zone. Worthers Original, what a load of tripe you do speak!!!!

RGJ-Rifleman

[JCAP3]

Train within your comfort zone, you'll recover faster and improve faster as a consequence.

Train to failure and your body will eventually do just that, fail.

Edit:

I think I may have misinterpreted this.

[Worthers Original]

Worthers Original, what a load of tripe you do speak!!!!

People can choose to train however they please, ultimately it's no skin off my nose. I would say that the amount of injured people on here is a testament to poor training and overtraining. A persons "comfort zone" does not exclude working with effort but would exclude working at 95-100% the majority of the time. If you think that working every session balls out is the way to go then that's your choice but I wouldn't advise it. If you don't think my advice on this has value then fair enough, no one has to follow it. I've suggested working out a training programme which has clearly defined goals and which is progressive.

[AJtothemax]

Worthers Original has a point but what must be set out here is:

You should never try and push yourself for the next level until you are ready, both physically and mentally.

However if someones intends to do this, then they should get a good, in-depth knowledge of how to do it and they should make sure that they are capeable of doing so, otherwise they will be training blindly!!! Something i strongly suggest you do not do!

Sudenly suggesting that 'you' are ready to train at a higher level at a moments notice is absolute crap.

On the other hand, if you are ready, then by all means train out of your comfort zone and YOU WILL progress quicker. The body will learn to adapt to the increased demands placed on it = progress.

On the subject of injury, speaking from experience (not that i trained blindly!), you should take great care of yourself and make sure that you are not over doing it all the time.

Case closed.

[Spooky]

Training to failure is the way to get results from your body fast, because it adapts to the stresses & pressures exerted on it.

Training to failure every single day is counterproductive. So long as you get adaquate rest in, you can train to failure as often as you like so long as your feeling ok with it.

Beleive me you will know if your not.

Aches, suseptable to injury, constantly picking up colds and other minor ailments,, always tired...

Training is subjective, its about knowing what works for you within your limits. Anyone saying as a generalisation any ultimate statement relating to this is wrong, nice and simple.

[Worthers Original]

What we're talking about is a comfort zone. From my own experience I know that I can train upto 170bpm HR and recover to train again the following day with no problems. So my comfort zone is anything between above resting HR and 170. If I set myself a goal of running for an hour I would want to not exceed 170 for the majority of the run but am happy to touch above it to make sure I make my goal of 1 hour. I'm working at the upper end of my comfort zone and, as my fitness improves, I will be able to run faster before reaching that upper limit. Sure, I could run in the 180s but continually running like that I will not be able to recover effectively.

Running a marathon is a great example. You will reach a point in a marathon where you will run out of your comfort zone, physiologically running 26.2 miles takes a heavy toll on the human body. If you want to complete the marathon then you will have to accept that from, for example, mile 18 on it's not going to be a lot of fun. At the finish your body will be very drained and it will take some time to recuperate before you can begin training near to level you were at before you ran the marathon. Not hours, not even days. The damage you inflicted on yourself from mile 18 onwards needs to be repaired. It's why you wouldn't sensibly run marathon distances during training.

Having said that there are a special breed of people who consider running 26.2miles a mere warmup and choose to run for 24hours and 100miles and more. They are, of course, crazy.

[AJtothemax]

Having said that there are a special breed of people who consider running 26.2miles a mere warmup and choose to run for 24hours and 100miles and more. They are, of course, crazy.

Its a little off subject but: Those people have the genetics to do so, its simply Gods gift to them. An example of this is Lance Armstrong, he is that good because his genetics have allowed him to reach that potential, the same applies to the Mr. Olympia champ Ronnie Coleman (i think its still him). Their bodies just allow them to progress better than others.

Another example of this was the Indian boy who ran 40miles, its just the way they are. Good for them!!!

[Worthers Original]

Whatever their genetics, they're crazy.

[tom_06]

it is still rubbish that training outside of your comfort zone will lead to injury!!!If your warm up/warm down and dont overtrain you should in theory be fine!In reality however if you exercise hard reguarly theres a high possibility of getting injured.Training outside of your comfort zone is the only way to improve otherwise your body doesnt have anything to adapt too!!!

[JCAP3]

It all depends on what you would consider your own "point of failure" and thats where i think I misinterpreted what Worthers Original was getting at. Training for a while at a high intensity rather than a low intensity is always better for your fitness but training until your ears bleed isn't going to help you at all, atleast not every day without a good 24 hour rest in between these super-beastings - aka over-training.

If people didnt need to train hard to get fit then there wouldn't be much point in the physical training at Lympstone.

[Worthers Original]

it is still rubbish that training outside of your comfort zone will lead to injury!!!

I believe the point in question was "training to failure" not just of training outside your comfort zone, hence my comment that your body would eventually do just that, fail.

[tom_06]

ok yer training to failure on pressups,pullups etc everytime wont be beneficial!sorry i was thinkin more in terms of teh cardio side of training.