Martial Arts

[Mince]

Mince
A second Dan in whatever it is, will not allow you to skip any SF training
Where do you get these ideas?
Martial Arts have NO use whatsoever in SF training.
In fact they are a waste of time.
Sneaky

I hope you're joking, 'cos I was.

[sneaky beaky]

Mince,
No I wasn't but I gather you were.
I couldn't make the link you referred to work, so I don't know what the joke was.
The point I was making is that martial Arts in any form is a very good sport and very good for getting or keeping you fit and it does teach you discipline and self restraint. I did Judo for a few years and thoroughly enjoyed it. BUT as far as SF training goes, it only plays a minor role. It is useful in the very few close encounter problems that you might encounter.
Sneaky

[Mince]

Yeah, it was sarcasm. It wasn't intended to win any comedy prizes, to be honest; it was more for savaging the notion that martial arts was going to be an asset in joining the SBS and for debunking the idea of special forces running around the countryside, karate-chopping people and throwing ninja stars. I realise this leaves me open to the question "what the fudge do you know about it?" but it was a risk I was willing to take. The link was never intended to work; the relevant bit was in the URL itself. Subtle stuff, I know, but I had been at the Kronenbourg.

[Chuckie1970]

Mince
A second Dan in whatever it is, will not allow you to skip any SF training
Where do you get these ideas?
Martial Arts have NO use whatsoever in SF training.
In fact they are a waste of time.
Sneaky

I am sorry to say sneaky but if martial arts are a waste of time you better go ahead and tell the whole korean army. What about hold techniques ??? They stem from martial arts. I don't think that queens boxing played too much of a role in grappling do you???

Sorry if I sound a bit sarki

[Maroon]

Why would you want to grapple with anyone???? I don't ever remember grappling with anyone the whole time I was in the army

That's why they invented Pig sticks, Baton guns and Plasti Cuffs

[Sully]

....and Fairburn Sykes daggers of course

"Royal Marines know where to stick it" as the bumper-sticker says.

Chuckie, be as sarki as you like, I think Sneaky knows a thing or two about SF training and operations though.

[Maroon]

Ohhh, you wouldn't want one of them where the sun don't shine, the mark 1 Bayonet does a good job aswell

Mind you, you might have to Ninja kick first, then Grapple with said enemy before sticking them with your "Fairburn Sykes"

[sneaky beaky]

I certainly wouldn't want to "grapple" with the whole korean ( Should that not be a Capital letter?) army. I don't even fancy them!
Yes of course "grappling" holds and also throwing techniques come into it on a very, very few occasions but - would you shoot a guy or "grapple" with him?!!
Sneaky

[wannabe_bootneck]

If you get that close.......................you're too close!

[sneaky beaky]

Sticky,
That cloak of invincibility sounds quite attractive. And let's face it - if I walked up to a sentry and then opened the said cloak, he would die of shock!! If you remember - you went quite white yourself when we met in Nantwich!!
As for the Wrens quarters - you could not get in them - with or without the said cloak.!! I managed it once - but it was in America!! And I didn't need any cloak whatsoever there!!
PS don't tell the missus, she was a WREN!!
Sneaky

[Chuckie1970]

....and Fairburn Sykes daggers of course

"Royal Marines know where to stick it" as the bumper-sticker says.

Chuckie, be as sarki as you like, I think Sneaky knows a thing or two about SF training and operations though.

Don't you just love opening a can of worms...

I just meant that martial arts are a good thing in general. I tell you what if I ever have kids (god help the world if I do) its either military school or martial arts with a bloody tough instructor.

As for shooting or stabbing someone versus hand to hand. I am not in the armed forces and the last thing I shot was an outside dunny with a 22. I broke the glass out of the window and my dad said never again. Some people are not meant to pull a trigger ... and that would be me

But if i was in the armed forces... I would shoot and if I allowed someone to get close to me accidently then hand to hand. Knives can be tricky things (and yes I have trained with them).

[sneaky beaky]

Chuckie 1970
Martial Arts are brilliant for youngsters to learn discipline and to get/keep fit. One of the first things you learn in any of the Martial Arts disciplines is -discipline.! It is also a superb sport and is very well worth following.
The only thing wrong is that films/TV etc. tend to give the impression that someone with Martial Arts knowledge can overcome insuperable odds.
It does not happen that way in the military.
You would have to be wearing your underpants outside your tights, to be that good.
Shoot the ba****d!!
Sneaky

[Chuckie1970]

Chuckie 1970
Martial Arts are brilliant for youngsters to learn discipline and to get/keep fit. One of the first things you learn in any of the Martial Arts disciplines is -discipline.! It is also a superb sport and is very well worth following.
The only thing wrong is that films/TV etc. tend to give the impression that someone with Martial Arts knowledge can overcome insuperable odds.
It does not happen that way in the military.
You would have to be wearing your underpants outside your tights, to be that good.
Shoot the ba****d!!
Sneaky

Sneaky I totally agree films/tv do give the wrong impression and they have a lot to answer for. And I dare say... no it doesn't happen that way in the military or even on the street.

But sneaky I thought your were that good that's why you wear you undies over your tights... I saw you at buckingham palace about a week ago...

[Jamie T]

Right, I left this post to see where it went, and basically it has gone the wrong way. I don't plan on skipping any training at all by having martial arts knowledge. Where did you get that idea from? And does anyone know if there is a Royal Marines martial arts team or are they part of the Navy team?

From martial arts I have gained excellent leg strength, flexibility and plyometric abilities (jumping and what-not). I think that most children should at least try a martial art at one point, not to learn how to overcome "insuperable odds", but to learn how to follow instruction, use their whole body and how to defend themselves primarily.

Any dunce would shoot the enemy before going matrix on their asses. And yes, grappling is a VERY bad idea. Quick, powerful, disabling strikes to the main points of the body should do the trick. Even if you never have to do it, it's still good to know. Gives you that bit of extra confidence in a war situation.

And what's wrong with wearing my underpants outside my tights?? It's a statement! I'm an individual dammit!!

Cheers

LESS THAN A MONTH TO GO!!! COME ON BASIC TRAINING!