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General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.

should colourblind people be allowed admission to the forces if they are great at everything else required of them?

yes
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no
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thanx but im not arsed bout my situation even tho it pisses me off but i get annoyed when people make fun. i dont want sympathy just a chance m8. ty.
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A few years ago when the Handicaped were pushing to have more jobs made available to them a chap in a wheel chair wanted to join the army and took the Government to court over it. He reckoned he could operate a radio in a lorry or something in the rear. The case was thrown out thank goodness when it was shown it would take three to four men to lug the chap acroos broken ground every time he had to take a leak. then what would happen if his special lorry broke down or was hit by enemy fire.
It was reckoned it would take a platoon men just to look after him. In action you have to rely on the chap next to you and he needs to be fully fit
to do that sort job. Now you might feel hard done by by beeing turned down for what you feel that you want to do, but we all can't do what we want to do in life, so face it, and have a look around for a different career.
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Im colour blind and I got passed the maedical! I think it depends on the degree of of your situation, if it poses a threat to others then NO, otherwise give us another 20 press-ups CDT!

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Cdt Cooper wrote:crap. I guess thats my military career over before i start! so don't matter(well it does) suppose i can jus watch u guys on tv and wonder...
The only thing thats crap about what i've read so far is your attitude, you have asked for advice on your colour blindness and have been given various responses ranging from no chance to you might be OK.

Intermingled with those have been several replies advising you to go to the careers office and take the colour blindness test, yet you seem set on ignoring this advice and writing off a career in the forces based on a few peoples opinions (incorrect opinions as well).

As Wilson has proved the forces do accept people that are colour blind - it depends to what extent and what range of colours you cannot distinguish. I've worked alongside lads that have been colour blind and some of the sh*te I've read on this subject is to say the least a little reactionary, now i'm not colour blind so I don't know much about it but I do know that its not an automatic failure point - it will depend on how badly you are affected.

But by not even taking the test you aren't going to know for sure are you?
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Colour blindness is a misleading term, since practically everbody sees colours but some individuals are poor at discriminating between certain shades. About 1 in 12 men inherit a color deficiency (via the maternal grandfather) whereas only 1 in 250 women are affected.

Optometrists generally use colour plates to screen for colour deficiencies. These are a sensitive test for identifying individuals with affected colour vision but occasionally a question mark remains over whether or not the colour vision is normal. Very often it is impossible for the test to categorise the defect (other than as a 'Red-Green' anomaly) or to determine how severe the problem is. We can arrange for further tests to be made at a specialist centre if detailed classification is required.

Broadly speaking the red-green colour deficiencies fall into two categories. One group is insensitive to deep red and may confuse some shades of red, brown and green. The other group confuse shades of red, green and yellow. Shades of red, magenta and grey may be confused. However so called 'colour blind' individuals can still correctly identify most instances of red and green etc. Confusion only arises with certain hues and saturations.

Although a colour vision weakness can bar entry into certain careers, on the whole it poses very few problems in day to day life. The following list identifies some careers which require normal colour vision. However since there are often various specialisations within each vocation it is wise to check entry requirements individually as low-grade colour deficits may be acceptable.

Armed forces: Various disciplines are ruled out


aircrew
bridge watchkeepers
seaman officers

Check with forces career offices as many sub specialisations have lower colour vision requirements.

Civil Aviation:


Flying personnel

If they fail the standard colour plate test they may still qualify with a less stringent occupational test. Otherwise licence exclusions and limitations may be imposed.


Electronic/Electrical engineering
Fire Officers

Merchant Navy:


Deck officers and ratings
Engineer officers: may be a handicap

Police:


Categories depend...
Each force is responsible for its own standards - those unable to identify the principal colours are usually excluded.


Railway

Defective colour vision may be a handicap at times in the following occupations:

anaesthetist
art work
beautician
some catering careers
cartography
design
some engineering disciplines
florist
forensic scientist
hairdresser
horticulture
interior decorator or designer
jeweller
laboratory technician
paintmaker or sprayer
radio and TV servicing
textiles

There is no cure for inherited colour vision defects, although it is sometimes possible to fit contact lenses that aid colour discrimination. These do not restore normal colour vision and do not lift the exclusions from occupational requirements. Although the lists ablove may seem daunting it is important to remember that weak colour vision presents very few problems in most careers and everyday life.

It might be said that the eye works rather like a camera (although the eye came before the camera!). Light is focused onto the retina at the back of the eye. The retina is a transparent lining which contains light receptors. Some receptors are cones, which convey colour, whereas the receptors called rods deal with low light situations. Normal colour vision relies on the presence of three different photopigments within the cones. If one pigment is either absent or slightly defective an individual's colour discrimaination will fall.

The artist uses what he calls primary colours - blue, red and yellow, which in equal chemical measure combine in paint to form secondary colours of green, purple and orange, and these subtractive primary colours combine to form black. Additive primary colours are based on the physics of light, where red, green and blue are called the primary colours, producing yellow, cyan and magenta as secondary colours and white as the product of all three primary colours. These three primary colours in different relationship form any colour. In fact the colours are wavelengths of the electromagnetic vibrations of light.

Artists note that the use of blue in a painting gives distance and red brings objects closer. Yellow is bright and sharp. Given that white light is made of different wavelengths, then actual different colours have slightly different properties of focussing. Short wavelenths are focused closer to the lens than longer wavelengths which come to a focus further back. This phenomenon of longitudinal chromatic abberation is used by optometrists to fine-tune their prescriptions.

When colour coded signals reach the brain they are perceived i.e. colour is appreciated. It is a psychological reaction
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