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Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 5:13 pm
by harry hackedoff
It was their country, then the jews turn up with a note from God saying he promised it to them :-? West bank settlements, Gaza, Shabra, Chatilla, etc.
I hate the Palestinian terrorists and Hamas, but the ordinary people have been seen-off bigtime. My point is that I can`t comprehend the actions of succesive Israelli governments, given what happened to them. If the ultra orthodox jews who control their government are not fascists, then I don`t know who is.
The Palestinian people deserve a fair crack. They haven`t had one up to now.

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 5:28 pm
by GD
Since when was it their country? The Ottoman's ruled Palestine for 1,000 years then the British ruled it. Jew and Muslim (both the same race btw) lived together in peaceful co-existence until the arabs decided they wanted to put the Jews out of the country.

Ulta-Orthodox Jews are not ruling Israel btw.

They never did.

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 5:45 pm
by JR
:-? The jewish problem, ask my 'oppo' Owdun well versed in the Palestine debacle,after all the Marine on the sharp of the pull out from Palestine in 1948 could give you chapter and verse.Here endeth the lesson.Aye jr 8) 8)

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 5:48 pm
by GD
JR wrote::-? The jewish problem, ask my 'oppo' Owdun well versed in the Palestine debacle,after all the Marine on the sharp of the pull out from Palestine in 1948 could give you chapter and verse.Here endeth the lesson.Aye jr 8) 8)
What would any bootie from 1948 know about the rule of the Ottoman Turks or what has happened since then. All he would know about is how the Haganah put pressure on Britain to give Palestine self-rule.

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 6:00 pm
by JR
:lol: Personaly mister I dont give a shi'ite about the Ottoman Turkish Empire,I only worry about my era which is rapidly comming to an end.Aye jr :wink: :wink:

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 6:04 pm
by GD
That being the case may I ask why you bothered to comment in the first place? Perhaps you should have had your friend do it for you?

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 7:06 pm
by JR
:D I thought the discussion started of with 'sixty years ago' I concur it all started with the the Ottoman Turkish Empire,But we are mainly interested in today and sixty years ago.
I was brought up with the Palestine problem and there are still haunting memories of terrorist atrocities,so why did I comment in the first place.Its a forum an open forum and if i wish to comment on the situation so be it.Aye jr :wink: :wink: .

Here's to us and those like us damm few left.

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 7:31 pm
by El Prez
Jim, what's that quote from Aden? "Fare thee well oh land of Arab etc? How does it go?

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 8:17 pm
by GD
JR wrote::D I thought the discussion started of with 'sixty years ago' I concur it all started with the the Ottoman Turkish Empire,But we are mainly interested in today and sixty years ago.
I was brought up with the Palestine problem and there are still haunting memories of terrorist atrocities,so why did I comment in the first place.Its a forum an open forum and if i wish to comment on the situation so be it.Aye jr :wink: :wink: .

Here's to us and those like us damm few left.
Yes, it's an open forum, hence MY comments but you posted and then indicated you didn't wish to be drawn into the discussion. Reading back over your words I see now that you want to concentrate on the events of today, however, in my honest view (like the Irish problem) the events of yesteryear and today are inextricably linked.

I respect your views however so I won't attempt to draw you on it again.

You have my apologies.

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 8:20 pm
by GD
El Prez wrote:Jim, what's that quote from Aden? "Fare thee well oh land of Arab etc? How does it go?
Is this the one????


Farewell To Aden


Land of toil sweat and strain,

Land of sun and Maffish rain -

Sweat rash, foot rot and Prickly Heat

Aching hearts and blistering feet,

Swarms of flies that buzz and bite,

Fans that hum throughout the night.


Land of scorpions, camels and bugs,

Hashish, Heenia, and other drugs.

Streets of sorrow,streets of shame

Streets that you could never name.

Clouds of dust and sand that send

The sanest people round the bend.


Donkeys, goats, and Pyiard dogs,

Cut throats, thieves, and pestering wogs.

Land where children in their teens

Sell souvenirs outside canteens

"Buckshee, Buckshee", is their cry,

For this alone, they live and die.

Where Tinea thrives, and Gripo cripes,

Where wogs smoke Hubbly Bubbly pipes.

Where every Arab, black or brown

Awaits on you to go down town.

Obnoxious smells, eternal strife,

Oh! for Blighty and a wife!

Where ex-tour men just sit and gloat

While others dream about the boat,

Their only aim, to dodge and skive

Until their clearance chits arrive.

Our chief delight is to laugh and shout

At some poor mug thats just come out.


Oh. for Britains happy life,

Where people never know such strife.

My final hope I'm going home,

Away from it I'll never roam -

I'm going home, and Oh! how grand

To see green fields - instead of sand!


Land of sorrow, filth and shame

I've seen you once - but NEVER again.

I leave you now - with NO regrets.

The sights I've seen, I'll never forget,

Natives Heaven, white mans hell,

This place called Aden - FARE THEE WELL !!!

Posted: Sat 04 Jun, 2005 10:37 pm
by JR
:D Rob,there are a couple of farewell's to Aden,quote.A Arabs heaven and a bootnecks hell,Oh land of bastards fare thee well.

But I think the best one is by brother Kipling an exceedingly good verse.

We're goin' 'ome, we're goin' 'ome, Our ship is at the shore,an' you must pack your 'aversack,for we won't come back no more.
Ho, don't you grieve for me, My lovely Mary-Anne, For I'll mary you yit on a fourp'ny bit as a time expired man.

Farewell you land of b'stards 29 November,1967Aye jr :evil: :evil:

Posted: Sun 05 Jun, 2005 5:34 am
by anglo-saxon
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Posted: Sun 05 Jun, 2005 11:18 am
by GD
The poem was called 'Troopin' (Our army in the East).

I was not aware I was in such distinguished company. We meet on the level gentlemen?

Posted: Sun 05 Jun, 2005 11:34 am
by Sticky Blue
Where is she?...
GD wrote:I was not aware I was in such distinguished company.
Sorry, I thought you said DISGUSTING Company 8)

Posted: Sun 05 Jun, 2005 11:38 am
by GD
That can be arranged - for a price 8)