The Mary Celeste/Flying Dutchman!!!!!!!!! (nee HMS Victory)

[Artist]

Back Again then!

Oie reckons our Stix is a tad bored....Arrr!

Artist

[Mike]

JR here are a couple unusual Pix for you: And for those who believ the Ship never floated.... Today she can't... the main mast is made of steel and stepped 12 ft into the dock below!!

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Vicky Ship Dressed Overall and afloat... But where is the Admiral's flag.
This must be pre 1912 when she was placed into dry-dock No2



Another at about, I guess where the Froudroyant (Trincomalee) used to lay.
On both pix the Quarterdeck is covered over. on the top pic there appears to be an awning between the fore and main mast with what looks liks a fog horn atop?





Finally, can you place this superb model... I know I've seen it but where. Greenwich?



Aye
Mike

[JR]

Mike........Couple of good pictures there Victory afloat?.

The Model! I think you will find it was built in Chatham Dockyard,methinks it was a shipwrights apprentices show piece.
there was a model of the Victory built for the Film 'Nelson and lady Hamilton' and that one was presented to the US Naval Academy.

PS do you want to buy a piece of the Victory .Aye jr

[harry hackedoff]

Good stuff Mike, wasn`t she placed in the dock in 1922, but?

Recently read about a first rater being towed out and sunk by the Andrew in about 1947 . Can`t remember her name. Kin outrage
Jim, what bit might we be talking about Purely from a hypothetical standpoint obviously

Pussers pussering O.K. Pussers stops. Change glass and switch to Bombay Gin. In lemon, in ice, in tonic, steady, wait for it Gin back in the fridge Hackedoff, there`s a good lad And carry on drinking

[JR]

Hey up 'H' The ship towed out to sea and sunk by the RN 1948
The first rate ship of the line HMS Inplacable formerly The french 74 Duguay-Trouin Captured at the battle of Trafalgar.

She was sunk of the south coast went down flying the French Tricolor? But with the White Ensign flying above the Tricolor how about that monsieur Aye jr

[Mike]

Aye Bert TypeO a usual 1922 is correct....Jusr testing...... Now tell me the name of Nelson's Flag ship at the battle of Naples.... Without looking on the net!
Aye
Mike

[Sticky Blue]

Mike, them photos are fantastic!!

[Mike]

Been looking at this pic a little more closely.. I am at a loss to see what is actually happening on the Starboard (right) side of the ship as it appears to have lost definition.. I can only think that it is smoke form a salute for some occasion, I guess the fact that she is dressed overall probably gives credence to this theory.. Any ideas ?





Aye
Mike

PS.. I shall be away from my puter til Tuesday night, just incase you all miss me!! 'B' has to see her consultant...just the usual check up.....Tara

[harry hackedoff]

With one single broadside, the Isle of Wight ferry was no more

[Mike]

May of us older hands will have noticed a black Hulk with a single shortened mast moored up on the Gosport side of Pompy harbour. I wonder how many knew what ship she was and her history…. I shall tell you
The vessel was HMS Foudroyant or perhaps she wasn’t … was she the Trinkomalee?
The Foudroyant French word for ‘Thunder & lightning’ was captured by HMS Monmouth in 1758 and seconded into the Royal Navy and saw service until1785 when she was broken up.
The second ship to have the name was built in 1798 and was a second rate battle ship of the line with an armourment of 80 guns. In 1798 she became Nelson’ flag ship and in the Med,. She saw action at the taking of Naples and Malta from the French. Then followed gallant history in the service she was finally being paid off 1812. The vessel then remained as a hulk in harbour service at Plymouth.
In 1892 the Foudroyant was sold for breaking, but due to her close association with Lord Nelson she was bought to be displayed as a sail training ship. But on the night of 16th June 1897, she was wrecked off Black pool and was unsalvageable.

HMS Trincomalee a 38gun frigate was built in Bombay 1816 for the British she saw service on the eastern seaboard of America and the Caribbean, then in the Crimea.1852 she was paid off and became a drill ship. 1897 she was eventually sold for scrap and was about to be dismantles when she was bought and renamed as the Foudroyant to replace the first vessel of that name as a sail training ship.

1932 she was managed by the Implacable Society for Nautical Research (the photo above shows her astern of the Implacable just prior to the Implacables demise).During the wars she was used as a Coal & store ship and latterly accomodation ship. 1947 she became an adventure training ship for Nautical scouts and youth groups and was at anchor on the Gosport side of Portsmouth harbour oposite to the Vosper Thornicroft yard.

She remainded in this roll untill 1987 when the Froudroyant trust took her to Hartlepool, where following the renevation of HMS Worrior she was totally refitted as can be seen in the final Photograph. Today she is a prime tourest attracxtion and is the oldest floating vessel in the UK and only superseeded in the

The dates and Photographs above were gleaned form various sites on th internet, the basic knowledge was already known to myself.

[harry hackedoff]

Top man yourself Mikey
The Viccy phots give us some impression/perception of the size of such Warships. Elmer likes to boast that the USS Conny is the oldest warship afloat. What the flock would he know? We`ve got public toilets older than the US FFS
Numbers. Two. Six. Heave.

[flo]

Hey Ho and up she rises!!

[harry hackedoff]

Wa-hay Art boy will have an auto-erotic event
Where`s she been a-lurking, oi wunders

Oi must go down to the sea agin, to the lonely sea and the sky.
I left my shirt and coat there, I wonder if they`re dry

Hoist yer t`gallnts Mister Christian, lively like
Hands to pump ship,

[harry hackedoff]

The cover on her quarter deck reminds me of the lid over the whole of HMS Unicorn. It looks like summat from an old garden shed. The lid (on Unicorn) is about 150 years older than the ship and the custom was to stick a shed roof onto an unmasted hulk so she could serve as office space, powder hulk or prison ship, whatever, till she was needed when the lid was removed and plonked on the next hulk.
The cover on the q-deck looks just exactly the same but smaller

See they`ve found me old mate James T. Cook`s ship, His Majesty`s Barque, Endeavour. She`s lying off the eastern US and was sunk along with many others as block ships in the War of Independance and can we have our colonys back please Elmer because you are seriously farking them up son

Upon this day of Our Lord, Monday May 21st 1770, Endeavour`s Log records," Mod`te breezes. From noon to 2, soundings reg`lar from 9 1/2 to 11 fathoms"
Cook records, "In the PM we kept along the East side of the shoal untill 2 oClock when judgeing that there was water for us I sent a boat ahead to sound and upon making the signal for more than 5 fathom we hauled our wind and stood over the tail of it in six fathom"
They were off to the NW of the Cape York peninsula, Archie`s neck of the woods.
She carried a Detachment of twelve Royals, led by Sarnt John Edgecumbe.
Think about those twelve Bootys.
They would have known many of our words of command, shared our humour, our love of rum,our capacity for decisive individual action in times of crisis.
Today,two hundred and thirty six years ago, Royal was sunning himself off the N E coast of OZ, ready to Do His Duty.
We can`t imagine what would be the equivalent today. Mission to Mars, maybe Three of her Detachment were "Discharged Dead" and one was recorded as "Lost Overboard"
Presumably eight made it back to Guz
Here`s to them and those like them, those guys were living up to a tradition that was already one hundred and six years old when they first saw Australia.

[JR]

Emerging from amongst the empty cardboard boxes Unit Move completed???(It only took the Brigade 6 weeks to move Far Flung)
Taken me and the spouse 3 months to move into the new bungalow .
Now to get back on thread
Bloody Hell! 'H' a knowledgeable antipodean scouser very few and far between in the Land down under?,cheers Bert,Aye jr