future deployment for the navy submarines...?

[munky]

france sells pakistan three diesel electrics...

...russia rents two akulas to india...


...and india and pakistan being on such friendly terms and everything...think our dolphin-wearing RN chums will be sent out there to keep tabs on things...?

[harry hackedoff]

munky, you state your occupation as "professional benefit fraudster" with an interest in cheese.
Your posts to date, are following the usual patern displayed by most of the nobbers who have eventualy been removed from these forums. Can I suggest that you either improve the standard of your posts or consider yourself on notice.
Thanks

[Jason The Argonaut]

Go Harry :laola: Go Harry

[Sisyphus]

But Harry, I liked his question!!

My son-in-law's son (work that one out if you can! ) is a tiff in training and has opted for subs. The other week I asked him what they say in the Andrew that the purpose of our nuclear subs, hunter killers, etc. is these days.

Needless to say he didn't know - maybe because they don't know either

Any matelots out there who can throw any light on it??

[munky]

But Harry, I liked his question!!

yeah, i liked my question too...


reason i ask is that i'm looking into becomming an articifer, and if i were to get that then i'd opt to specialise in submarine engineering. and if i don't make the grade for a tif then i'd go in as an om comms, also on subs.

so - fairly obviously - i'm kinda interested in knowing where our boats go...

if i were to make it in either role, i'd prefer to serve on a trafalgar or an astute - lurking around in a vanguard wouldn't be as interesting - so trying to figure out where they're likely to be deployed in the future is a fairly worthy use of my staggeringly powerful brain. hence the question; does the navy deploy ssn's to anywhere where there's likely to be a bust-up, to keep an eye on things and intervene if necessary, or does it only deploy our boats when there's a distinct and direct threat to british affairs? i mean, just how nosey do we get...?

[Jason The Argonaut]

But Harry, I liked his question!!

No Harry :laola: No Harry

[harry hackedoff]

Munky, I see you`ve chosen option A.
Good
Bill, the purpose of the Trafalgar Class boats, is to consume obscene amounts of public money
Aye,

[scORCHing]

But Harry, I liked his question!!

My son-in-law's son (work that one out if you can! ) is a tiff in training and has opted for subs. The other week I asked him what they say in the Andrew that the purpose of our nuclear subs, hunter killers, etc. is these days.

Needless to say he didn't know - maybe because they don't know either

Any matelots out there who can throw any light on it??

They use them as a deterrant(sp?) to nuclear threats and the ballistic Subs are the UK's only nuclear weapons so if we need to use nuclear weapons at some point then the subs are what the country needs.

[Sisyphus]

Munky

You'll never get to find out where our subs are deployed - unless you are 'pos-vetted' and work "Down the Hole" at Northwood. As for hoping to be able to choose which type you work on - not a snowball's chance in...


Scorchy,

A deterrent was what they WERE used for when the Soviet Union was in existence. The only non-western country able to deploy now is China. Our limited number of nuclear weapons aren't likely to deter them. For a deterrent to work you need LOTS more than the opposition. In 1982, when Mad Maggie refused to reduce the number of our WMD's, she said it wouldn't make any difference anyway because they only represent a 'tiny, tiny proportion of the world's nuclear armaments' [said in her best school ma'am voice which she still had then] (Actually, as I've said before, their main purpose, even then, was as a political tool so we could pretend to be some sort of world power with influence.)

They won't be much of a deterrent to an Islamic (or any other type of) fundamentalist with a nuclear device in a suitcase. My son-in-laws son hopes to serve in a hunter-killer. But he can't tell me who now has submarines that we'd want to hunt.
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[Topper]

Probably the only submarine threat is the proliferation of diesel subs, primarily the Kilo class boat. Iran has a few of these and might be used if Bush decides to take out Iran, perhaps N Korea might have some diesel submarines.
Also perhaps there might be subs such as these that could be used as mercenary subs by terrorits if they are mad and determind enough.

[Tab]

Does it not make you wonder when these Countries have a problem feeding their people why they spend so much money on armements.

[davo141]

fear of democracy? most of these leaders who neglect there own people in favour or armies and weapons usually are robbing the country blind and any hint of a steady democracy will show these failings and corruption like what is happening in Zimbarbwe(spelling?)

They think that large armies will deture popular uprising in fear of torture and marshal law!

this has and will proberly happen in most countries recently been in civil wars, famines and other disaters as people turn to the person who seems to be the best but is as corrupt as the next guy, happened in every other country after disaster...

cheers, dave

[rabby]

That nuclear deterrent of ours that we have on those subs, they'd be nice if we could actually use them when under serious attack. If it came to the crunch (which will NEVER happen) and we had to launch a nuke, we have to ask old elmer first, because its their missiles and warheads we have on those subs.

We used to have diesel subs, up intill 4/5 years ago in fact, they were the quietest subs in the world, quieter than the Yanks, but now they have been sold to the Canadian's and we have no really quite diesel subs for operations such as delivering SF.

My son-in-laws son hopes to serve in a hunter-killer. But he can't tell me who now has submarines that we'd want to hunt.

N Korea apparetly has diesel subs, the very quiet ones, and as that is where Bush seems to be headed next your son-in-law might be after them. :fadein:

[Ex-URNU-Student]

theres also an electronic intel gathering role they have which involves sitting off someones coast with their antennae sticking up, just my tupenny worth!

[harry hackedoff]

Very valuable, it is too.
This cracks me just see if it makes any sense at all

They use them as a deterrant(sp?) to nuclear threats and the ballistic Subs are the UK's only nuclear weapons so if we need to use nuclear weapons at some point then the subs are what the country needs.

Good point, well put. Sadly not