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The 'Paras 10'

General discussions on joining & training in The Parachute Regiment.
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Post by jaydub »

On an event like this you're essentially alternating between running and tabbing. You run on the flats and downhill, and tab on the up-hill. Obviously when it's steep downhill, you make sure you aren't sprinting too quickly :) Else injury is gonna happen (falling over etc). I realised that I was making up time mostly on the tabbing - that is to say, when you're walking, you need to walk fast! That's where you make up the time. No dawdling, no going easy - if you're not running, you should be tabbing. Swing your arms, swing your legs, and prepare for the next running point. That's where the mental part comes in. Say things to yourself like, "I'll run until I pass that bush, then tab to the top of that rise, then run down", etc.

Anyway, I know a few bergan runs don't make me an expert so I'll let others who know more offer their advice.
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Post by Ria »

jaydub wrote: Anyway, I know a few bergan runs don't make me an expert so I'll let others who know more offer their advice.

Well you managed a bloody good time, so you must be doing something right!! :P
Did you run with the pacemaker fella, that the announcer said would be setting the 1 hour 50 pace??
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My Paras 10 race.

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My Paras 10 race.

Thought I'd finally get round to doing a write up on the race, to try & encourage some more of you to enter next year.

I arrived early, 7.30am, & was directed to a car park by a couple of rather gorgeous Para recruits who called me "ma'am"!! :lol:
Entering Catterick Garrison for the first time is quite intimidating.
It's very bleak, a bit like a concentration camp, with barbed wire everywhere.
I could well imagine how overwhelmed a nervous young new recruit might feel coming here to start training, having maybe never been away from home before. :roll:

The weather was perfect. Dull, warm, but not too hot, with no wind or rain.

If you enter by post, there's no need to register on arrival, so I killed time by nattering to some of the other girls.
Everyone seemed very relaxed & chatty as they got their bergens weighed & warmed up.

At around 10am we were called to the start, & the announcer gave us a few instructions & organised a quick aerobics session to get us in the mood.
The runners race started first, followed by the P Company/bergen racers 3 minutes later.

For me, the first 10 minutes were the worst. I suddenly felt really sick & lightheaded......think I'd taken too many painkillers...... :oops:
I was walking after about 5 minutes..... :roll:
But I soon perked up, & injuries, although annoying, weren't going to stop me from completing the race, however slowly.

I was surprised the ground was so firm. I'd expected boggy grass & deep mud, but most of it was a gravel path, with a couple of streams to cross.
The hills weren't too bad, though the one at the end is STEEP!!
Really doesn't matter though, because as soon as you see that bugger looming, you know you're nearly home. :D

The course was marshalled by Para recruits, showing the way, shouting encouragement, & probably chuckling to themselves about how rubbish civvies are...... :roll:
I spoke to a few afterwards, & they were about to do P Company.

At the 5 mile mark we looped round a really nice lake.
As I came down the far side I could see that there were actually loads of people behind me. Now that's a novelty for me! In all the fell races I've done in preparation for this, I've never seen anyone behind me......I'm always last! :roll:
As you finish the lake section you head up a hill to be greeted by a race photographer at the top to capture your pain on camera...... :(

Everyone seemed like they were having a great time, & I chatted to loads of people on the way round. We obviously weren't trying hard enough if we had enough energy to talk.... :-?

After the last hill you can basically try & leg it all the way in from there, as it's virtually flat/downhill most of the last mile.
Hearing the muffled sounds of the announcer over the PA system in the distance is great, as you know you're nearly back to the field in the Garrison where you started, & the finish line. :D
As I ran the last 50 meters to people clapping, I didn't feel anything other than disappointment really, as I wasn't doing the race I wanted to do, in the time I'd hoped for.
It made me realise how much I wanted to do the P Company race next time, & how hungry I was for 1 hour 50. 8)

At the end I collected my medal & T-shirt, then just chilled for a bit nattering to people, including Kieran & Cardsharpe, & watched prize giving.

The results were posted in the sports hall, & we gathered round them wondering how the hell someone managed 1 hour 17 to win the P Company race. :o
It would have been interesting to see on the results who was serving/former serving, & who was a civvie, but there was no way of telling most of the time.
I do hope lots of civvies managed 1 hour 50!! 8)

On the way home I was happily driving down the A59 to Skipton when my car made the most horrible noise, & ground to a halt on a dangerous blind bend..... :roll:
Two hours later I was on the back of an AA tow truck, facing a bill for a new drive shaft. :evil: (Well at least it saved me the petrol home...... :roll: :lol: )

I can't wait for next years race. September 13, 2009, Catterick Garrison.
Hope to see some more of you there!! :P :P

Info on........ www.paras10.com (With a link to race results & photos)
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Post by livingthedream »

This sounds really good. I really want to do it now. Got a bergan on saturday. Tried a few and this feels ok. Put 35 pounds in and it felt very heavy. Put me off a bit as i hadn't realised it was so heavy. I've taken most weight out to train. Can't imagine right now being able to run at all with 35 pounds, i can't at the moment. I guess its practice
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Ria wrote:Did you run with the pacemaker fella, that the announcer said would be setting the 1 hour 50 pace??
Unfortunately I didn't realise until the last minute that there was even going to be a pace maker - and I couldn't quite make out what was being said by the announcer. As it turned out, I happened to find myself near the chap(s) most of the way round, but it wasn't particularly intentional (I only realised after the race who was pacemaking!) ...

I did, however, run with my Garmin Forerunner watch. It has GPS and I use it for all my run training (bergan or not!). It has a tonne of fields available to display, including current pace and average overall pace. My aim was to keep the average pace above 9kph at all times (8.7kph being required for the 1hr50m cut)... probably the next best thing besides being squad marched to keep you motivated :D
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jaydub wrote:[I did, however, run with my Garmin Forerunner watch. It has GPS and I use it for all my run training (bergan or not!). It has a tonne of fields available to display, including current pace and average overall pace. My aim was to keep the average pace above 9kph at all times (8.7kph being required for the 1hr50m cut)... probably the next best thing besides being squad marched to keep you motivated :D
Wow....I'm impressed!
Very hi-tech.
And there I was with a £4.99 Casio watch/stopwatch..... :roll: :oops:
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Post by Beanpole »

Bumping this back up.

I'm training for the Paras 10 this September and impressed with the times people did last year on this thread - well done all!

I have a couple of questions for those who have done it:
-o- An recommendations for a bergan - I'm 6'2" if height has anything to do with it?
-o- What did you put in your bergan to get it up to the 35lb weight?

Is anyone else doing it this year?
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Post by sportbilly42 »

Beanpole wrote:.....
-o- What did you put in your bergan to get it up to the 35lb weight?
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Sshhh.... Image Don't tell anyone I told you this, as I'll deny all knowledge....

Top tip: Fool everyone and put 35lb of FEATHERS in there.... (Or polystyrene beads/bubble wrap, your choice) It'll be a doddle then Image
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Post by WorTony »

Beanpole wrote:Bumping this back up.

Is anyone else doing it this year?
Hey Beanpole, I'm signed up to the P Coy Challenge.

How's your training going? Ordinarily, I'm a long distance runner but I'm recovering from a 8 month knee injury, culminating in an op last October so I'm not really at the top of my game regarding training yet. I also spent those months doing other activities that wont improve my time :drinking: !

I managed a 20 miler about 4 weeks ago "The Ashby 20" in a time of 3:05 which isn't bad but I was absolutely exhausted and I currently don't have enough miles in my legs to back up this kind of dstance - I've had to defer my London Marathon place for this year.

I haven't started training with boots and bergen yet but I'm looking to buy both this week and get cracking - I'm expecting this will be a whole world of difference and result in knackered feet and back?

Has anyone got any secret formula for hardening my feet? I've read about applying white spirit - any use?

Does anyone know if the last hill (Nod?) is on public land as I'd like to get up there and see it - it looks like a nightmare on the race photos taken from the top. It looks like a sheer drop - anyone know the gradient?

Anyway, if you're interested there are a number of P Coy Challenge runners on Twitter - I'm #WorTony.

Cheers

Tony
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Post by Airborne Legend »

I don't know if the land of nod is on public land or not, but you can get to it really easily off a public road and it isn't that bad on the 10 miler, you'll be well into the zone by that point and fly up it. I wouldn't bother trying to harden your feet, just leuko tape all the points that rub the first time you take your boots for a walk.
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Airborne Legend wrote:I wouldn't bother trying to harden your feet, just leuko tape all the points that rub the first time you take your boots for a walk.
Cheers for the reply.

Excuse my ignorance but what's "leuko tape" and where can I get it :oops: ?

Final one, do you know if the miles are marked?
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Post by Airborne Legend »

It's like zinc oxide tape but much more durable, you have to order it from boots or get it off the internet. As for the miles being marked, I did it for real mate ;) and they were very much NOT marked so I can't really help.
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Airborne Legend wrote:As for the miles being marked, I did it for real mate ;) and they were very much NOT marked so I can't really help.
When did you do this? What other stuff do you need to do to make it as a para (not that I intend doing anymore than the P Coy Challenge ;->)
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Post by Airborne Legend »

I did P Coy in 1997, but I did the 10 miler again last year when I was up in Catterick. As for what you need to go Para Reg I'd say mental strength, professionalism and a sense of humour were the most important things.
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Anyone signed up for this years Para 10? I've trained up to a couple of 10 milers with 35lb bergan and managed times of between 1:36 and 1:45. I've been using www.gmap-pedometer.com to map my training efforts and until today I thought I was doing the required hills as well but I've just discovered that I've been using feet rather than metres :cry: . That's sickened me a bit to discover that I might have only climbed about half the height I'll need to cover on the day.

Anway,I've decided that yesterdays 10 miler will be my last bergan run until the day and that I'll stay up to speed with a couple of unweighted runs this week and next week as I don't want to be knackered on the day.

I'm hoping for a time under 1:50.....
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