POC Points theory

[Pendo]

Got bored so thought I would do a bit of math

I've been told that a total of 400 points is available on POC, 180 being needed to pass. Four exercises (bleep test,pull,press, and sit-up ) = 400 points so in theory one exercise has a maximum mark of 100 points.

Max score for bleep test: 15.5
Max for press-up: 60
Max for sit-up: 85
Max for push-up: 16

So if each exercise is worth 100 points, you can find out how many points each rep of an exercise is worth by dividing 100 by the max score for each exercise.

1.0 on the bleep test = 6.4516129 points
1 press-up = 1.66666667 points
1 sit-up = 1.17647059 points
1 pull-up = 6.25 points

So to find out your total amount of points you times the number of reps/ score by the amount one rep/score is worth

So if your scores were as follows:
11 on the bleep test. 11 x 6.4516129 = 70.9677419
40 press ups. 40 x 1.6666667 = 66.6666668
60 sit ups. 60 x 1.17647059 = 70.5882354
10 pull ups. 10 x 6.25 = 62.5

So to get your final score you would add all of these up. I cba dealing with anymore decimals so Im gonna round the answers.

71
+ 71
67
63
--------
272
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So this guy would of passed POC.

This is only for POC mind, Ill post the points exchange rate for PRMC tomorrow.

Before some boffin comes in here and is like, 'Hurmm its doesnt work like this' Like I said it was just a theory which I thought was worth posting.

[lil_dinger_bell]

Sounds good to me, it makes it sound less daunting.

And then on to the bottom field exercise and endurance course...

[degrees of passion]

I'm not sure if all exercises are weighted equal though? Are you sure its 180 out of 400 max points? Because that's only 45%. The best and easiest way to look at it is (if all exercises are worth the same proportion of the overall mark), if you need 45% overall to pass then aim for beating 45% on each exercise and you're guaranteed to pass (you shouldn't have to rely on getting a really high mark in one to pull the others up).

I'm not sure you can use the bleep test by working out the numbers because its not a uniform set of reps, it's levels (someone may correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not sure the speed is directly proportional to time, ie/uniform straight line: double the time=double the speed. I would hazard a guess it's more of a curve since it starts off so slow and then near the end the increments of speed for are bigger and hence the curve is steeper-I may be wrong it might just speed up at the same rate throughout ) BUT I'm certain that there's a rule of thumb level of passing, say 12 or 13.

It's really not the best way to look at tests in general,because essentially you're working out with the mentality of how you can pass with the least effort, what is the minimum score you need on each to pass; well that's kind of the wrong attitude. You should be looking at trying to max out on every exercise.

[Pendo]

Before some boffin comes in here and is like, 'Hurmm its doesnt work like this' Like I said it was just a theory which I thought was worth posting.

The # of reps Ive posted is not what Im aiming for just posted it as an example, ofcourse Im aiming for max score on each one

Ahh I dont know maybe all exercises are worth 400 then they do an average? Sounds more logical to me. Although so does your 45% theory.

[lil_dinger_bell]

not the best way to look at tests in general,because essentially you're working out with the mentality of how you can pass with the least effort, what is the minimum score you need on each to pass; well that's kind of the wrong attitude.

Everytime one looks into some way of figuring out how to pass a test or looking to how somethings broken down is not always a sign of one looking for the least effort.

It doesnt show a mentality but a style of preperation - a way to ensure and calculate your pass if your behind on something else.

But your right it may not be weighted as pendo mentioned but the slight jumping to 'least effort' conclusion is not fair. If one cannot argue mentality ( a mentle process and mindset) in a court of law, it begs the question that your use of the term is now void.

And I know you weren't jumping down anyones throat but I am just saying that a negative wasn't too necassery on that one.

And no I'm not a overly sensitive guy who gets hurt by comments such as these, I have simply seen a runing theme of throat jumping on mfats. (myself included, which i am currently working on)

Good day sirs

[degrees of passion]

True it's not always a sign of looking for how to pass with the least effort but you should still go into the tests with the mentality of 'how can I get maximum scores',and not the other end of the spectrum 'how can I scrape a pass'.Im not saying this is aimed specifically at the lad in question,just my general opinion.

Point is,is that royals are no-nonsense sort of bloke who just dig in and get on with it,you should be able to pass every test individually and not have to rely on high scores in some to bring the low scores up.Im not trying to analyse his mentality Im just saying generally(lets not bog down another thread with paralysis by analysis),and Im saying this because Ive seen it all too often on here;people over-analysing things and getting hung up on minor technicalities:its quite simple really:'here's the tests,here's the max scores,do your best and you'll know if you've passed or not when the results are shown.'Seems pretty black and white to me

[lil_dinger_bell]

I understand your point and agree one should always have the mindset of maxiumum success, but putting your head down and just getting on with it is only one way of doing things....

An officer plans, prepares, and looks at all angles of a situation or test before he involves himself so as to succeed the best possible way.


[quote]lets not bog down another thread with paralysis by analysis[quote]

- good call

[Brows]

My advice, I haven't a clue how they work it out. Just aim for as high as you can.
If you get near the 180 mark you will be given a helpful "Pass...just" from colours

Brows

[tomharto30]

Its not marked like that either, it goes up in increments, so 40 press ups out of 80, wont get you 50/100 points, it doesnt work like that, it will probably get you 20-30 points. otherwise you could just get half on everything and pass and that would be pretty easy.

[Brows]

Right, maybe this will help you guys out.

My scores for POC

Bleep test: 11.9

Press-ups: 46

Sit-ups: 62

Pull ups: 3 (recorded, I got some marked off for poor form)

My RMFA score was 201.

If it helps.

Brows