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Royal Marines Commando - It's a State of Mind.

General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
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DWW, :lol:

I sincerely hope you prove me wrong.
If you succeed the beer will definitely
be on me and that is a promise as now
witnessed by AJ when he reads this.
Keep me informed and good luck :evil:
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Post by davidemmerson »

What about the RMR? I know the phys may well be of a similar standard but would you get longer to recover from it?

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Chas wrote:DWW, :lol:

I sincerely hope you prove me wrong.
If you succeed the beer will definitely
be on me and that is a promise as now
witnessed by AJ when he reads this.
Keep me informed and good luck :evil:
Was only trying to help another MFAT member here Chas.
No offence intended.
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Alright mate, I remember back in the day when I too had serious issues with shin splints and used to exchange some ideas with you, I was one of the lucky ones I guess.

Speaking from experience I would say RT might prove too much for your condition, it's hard enough anyway!

But that doesn't mean you can't try. :wink:
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I thought I'd set a bit of a test today to see how far I've got to go...

Here are the results:

4.8km run - 25:15
2min press ups - 39
2 min Sit ups - 40
Pull ups to failure - 8

Despite the run being relatively slow I'm really pleased with the time, as it's only the fourth run I've done, and the first one was in 30:55...

Press ups are disappointingly low as I have been doing mainly strength and musclebuilding work, often building to a 1RM (while impressive bears little relevance I fear) so muscular endurance requires some work. I expect this to improve significantly very quickly.

Sit ups were a disaster, as I don't train my abs or core at all, relying instead on squats and deadlifts to train my trunk.

Pull ups were down on a normal working set, but after the CV effort I'm pleased with 8, and once my fitness learns to cope with the aerobic demands prior to doing them I'm sure it'll be hitting 12-15 again. Especially as I've now lost 35lbs since I stopped bodybuilding to begin training for Royal again.

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DWW wrote:Especially as I've now lost 35lbs since I stopped bodybuilding to begin training for Royal again.
I think we are getting to the crux of the problem! How much do you weigh FFS?! The heavier you are the more force goes through your legs when you run, no wonder you have got shin splints. Get yourself a pair of well cushioned heavy trainers and start doing your running on soft surfaces. Alternate with cycling on other days.Re: pumping iron, you know the answer, you can get that training using your own body weight. Good luck, get lean and hungry. :wink:
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I was about 242lbs at the height of my bodybuilding, a little over 6foot. The thing is, I first developed them at 175lbs when I was 18 (and very skinny haha!)

The advice you gave is already well in hand though, thanks. I don't like this getting hungry malarky though I have to admit!
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DWW wrote:I was about 242lbs at the height of my bodybuilding, a little over 6foot. The thing is, I first developed them at 175lbs when I was 18 (and very skinny haha!)

The advice you gave is already well in hand though, thanks. I don't like this getting hungry malarky though I have to admit!
So how much do you weigh at the minute mate?
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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208 - 210lbs
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Post by Dave_1987 »

So whats that in stone or kg??

Good luck with recovery DWW!
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A touch under 15 stone.

Cheers mate :D

I see you're suffering with your shins too?
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DWW wrote:I was about 242lbs at the height of my bodybuilding, a little over 6foot. The thing is, I first developed them at 175lbs when I was 18 (and very skinny haha!)

The advice you gave is already well in hand though, thanks. I don't like this getting hungry malarky though I have to admit!
I'll say it now, you did yourself no favour's there then mate. :-?

Bodybuilding wreck's your body really. To place your body under that stress while injured is a massive "NO! NO!".

I'm sorry to say but your problem's definately sound more self inflicted which might be why your legs are in a bad way now.

I'm not doctor or a physio though.
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Was being trained by one of the best in the business, and with my podiatrists help, I did no impact exercises whatsoever, and it had no bearing on my shins. If I'd ran while carrying that mass it would have created more problems, but I didn't. It actually helped build the strength in my tib/fib which supported the lower leg more. Most of the rehab exercises prescribed were conducive to hypertrophy, and I really don't want to seem confrontational as you seem a decent bloke, but in this instance you're wrong I'm afraid mate.

Don't worry though, I still love you lol :lol:
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DWW wrote:Was being trained by one of the best in the business, and with my podiatrists help, I did no impact exercises whatsoever, and it had no bearing on my shins. If I'd ran while carrying that mass it would have created more problems, but I didn't. It actually helped build the strength in my tib/fib which supported the lower leg more. Most of the rehab exercises prescribed were conducive to hypertrophy, and I really don't want to seem confrontational as you seem a decent bloke, but in this instance you're wrong I'm afraid mate.

Don't worry though, I still love you lol :lol:
Who's this best in the business then mate?

Well, not knowing how you trained and what your coniditon was or how you went about things would make me wrong wouldn't it.

There's no possible way I could have known. 8)

Hense this:
AJtothemax wrote:I'm not doctor or a physio though.
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DWW, when it comes to bodybuilding though mate even 'the best in business' are not exactly pictures of health are they?
- If you overtrained, it means that you didn't train hard enough to handle that level of training

- Perseverance is the hard work you do after you get tired of doing the hard work you already did
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