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General discussions on joining & training in the Royal Marines.
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One thing that everyone seems to have bypassed or ignored is that you're 15! When you're 18 you'll wonder why you even bothered asking.

You can train like a man possesed, and eat most perfect diet, but until your body is ready I would worry about weight gain.

Remember:

Lift weights = muscle breakdown
Rest & Nutrition = Build muscle.

You have to incorpate both. Follow the RM schedule for specific adivce.

I found that when I done my PRMC I didn't have a problem.

I was cycling over 210 miles per week, playing football Saturday and Sunday plus doing the RM pre PRMC fitness schedule. I ate like a horse (sensible stuff - no pizza's or kebabs, and only drunk on a Saturday night).

When I done my PRMC people were whinging and bitching that they ached and this and that. I felt fine.

I find that people now only work to the set targets, the complain when they fail. Why?

People should work as hard as they can.

If it says you need to do a 3 mile run in 22.5 mins (7.5 mins/mile) train to do it in 18 mins (6 mins/mile) instead of making excuses why you failed.

I've seen it far too much on this site. The targets are there and people adapt their taining to those targerts. Those targets are the MINIMUM needed with 120% effort behind.

Train to 130% of those targets and push out 150% when you get to Lympstone. You'll soon see who only trained to 100% of the set targets as they thought that was all they needed.

That is all,

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Post by Stokey_14 »

One thing that everyone seems to have bypassed or ignored is that you 15! When you're 18 you'll wonder why you even bothered asking.

You can train like a man possesed, and eat most perfect diet, but until your body is ready I would worry about weight gain.

Remember:

Lift weights = muscle breakdown
Rest & Nutrition = Build muscle.

You have to incorpate both. Follow the RM schedule for specific adivce.

I found that when I done my PRMC I didn't have a problem.

I was cycling over 210 miles per week, playing football Saturday and Sunday plus doing the RM pre PRMC fitness schedule. I ate like a horse (sensible stuff - no pizza's or kebabs, and only drunk on a Saturday night).

When I done my PRMC people were whinging and bitching that they ached and this and that. I felt fine.

I find that people now only work to the set targets, the complain when they fail. Why?

People should work as hard as they can.

If it says you need to do a 3 mile run in 22.5 mins (7.5 mins/mile) train to do it in 18 mins (6 mins/mile) instead of making excuses why you failed.

I've seen it far too much on this site. The targets are there and people adapt their taining to those targerts. Those targets are the MINIMUM needed with 120% effort behind.

Train to 130% of those targets and push out 150% when you get to Lympstone. You'll soon see who only trained to 100% of the set targets as they thought that was all they needed.

That is all,

Baz
Agree 100% with the above post, Obviously from someone who has been there and done that. Training for me at the moment (also fifteen) is more geared towards getting the most out of my body that I can, I love pushing my self, the discipline and self control to push you're limits day in day out is something a lot of youngster lack.

My training is probably 85% sports orientated at the moment, only thing that is Marine based is the length of one of my run's (3 1/4 miles) the style of push up and that’s about it really, because I box I'm always circuit training, running, (and the boxing specific work) and I'm 100% confident that when I come to my PRMC in just under 3 years time (hopefully),I’ll be 110% certain that I'll pass it.

Obviously when the time approaches, around about a year before joining probably, I’ll really focus no the aspects needed for PRMC, but for now I train firstly for boxing, then for "life", then the Marines.

Not that in the long run these are my priorities but right at the moment what’s going to benefit me more? Being able to box or being able to complete PRMC?

Most of all Enjoy you're training and see the bigger picture, don't be afraid to try new things.

All the best

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Some good point's made lads, but it's all been covered before. Try the search button Llewellyn, I remember we had a huge debate on the matter a while ago.
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If it says you need to do a 3 mile run in 22.5 mins (7.5 mins/mile) train to do it in 18 mins (6 mins/mile) instead of making excuses why you failed.
18 mins quite hard, best time I can get is 21:30, though maybe because I run on a nasty arse hill that's slowing me down lol.

I'm 18 and going for second PRMC passed PJFT in nice time though. The PJFT means nothing really about running or how good your running is.

Got my PRMC in about a month's time so just doing my old 3x3 miler then 2xbeasting sessions.

I was told train hard but don't over do running on road since you get shin splits like I nearly did and that sucks.

Anyhow 3 years is a long time to get ready, so dont worry yet.
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Anyone can gain weight if they put the effort in.

Its all well and good if he gets fit as a fiddle. But if he was joining and then gets turned away for being too underweight, then its wasted training time.

And bodyweight calisthenics develope speed, endurance, max strength and power.
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Calisthenics most definately do improve endurance but will only improve speed and power if done explosively with extended periods of rest as muscular fatigue hinders the adaptation of the motor neurons and results in a slower contraction time and a lower contraction force which in turn equals less power and less speed.

Unless you are very very weak, push ups will not improve your max strength as it is a strength endurance exercise. Endurance when compared to speed, strength and power is at the other end of the scale.
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1 arm push ups. Weighted push ups.
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1 armed pushups are a possibility but you'll generally find that most people can't do them, and if they can their biomechanics are stuffed. weighted push ups are a good option as long as you use something along the lines of a weighted vest which is going to distribute the weight evenly and not cause injury.
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Post by hemmingwayIII »

Hi

I have a similar problem, I'm 17, a few MM off 6'5 and about 75 KG
I'm hoping to join the RM after I've finished A levels, I've been told I have to bulk up and get stronger for the RM (obviously), I am getting stronger (slowly but surely) but I still look like a sparrows leg when it comes to the bulking up.
I weight train for about 1.5 hours 3 times a week, should I be doing more? If so, how much? I've got just under a year left before the earliest I'll be joining, so should I stick with what I am doing, and just wait for my body to bulk itself up in time?

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Train, eat, sleep, repeat.

Hit the scales once a week.

Get back to me in three months.

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hemmingwayIII wrote:I weight train for about 1.5 hours 3 times a week
That could mean anything. What does your weight training consist of?

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It would help if you posted your routine and diet.
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You shouldn't lift weights for more than 60 minutes. Doing so releases cortisol and other "bad" hormones that negatively effect the work you've just been doing.
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I just go to the gym, and use all the normal weight machines.

And cheers lewdog :) I didn't know that, I'll go more often but only spend an hour at a time instead.
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Use the free weights instead
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